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School Shooting at Elementary School in Connecticut [27+ dead including 20+ children]

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goldsoundz said:
Not one of these poor children's/teacher's names will be remembered two weeks from now. That is the worst part about the way the media covers tragidies like this. All the glory and attention to the garbage, non-human shitheads who ruin the lives of countless people. I won't even watch the news outlets coverage of an event such as this. An unspeakable crime occurred today, and my thoughts will be with those affected. Stop giving these scummy media outlets your time and attention, especially during the BREAKING NEWS cycle.

On my phone right now, so sorry for any typos.
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Sad, but true. Although this is more an indictment of all of us, then it is the media. Unless you are personally affected, no one really cares about gun violence.
 
What a horrific event, made even worse by the absolutely atrocious knee-jerk reactions and speculation made by our news media in order to be the "first" with breaking news.
 
Trigger said:
Not gonna happen. I can't imagine people aren't going to be interested in knowing more about the kind of person who would do this. It's not like he really gets anything out of it at this point either.
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These murderers do it for attention. Knowing this, you should go out of your way to deny them this attention so that more people don't follow in his footsteps. We've had two of these this year in that vein.
 
So, the Fox guy seemed to infer that the mum (Nancy) was a teacher perhaps an assistant at the kindy class that was primarily targeted.

The mother was killed off location at the home, the brother Ryan were roommates he (initially reported to be Adam, but seems it was Ryan) was picked up outside the school(?) or nearby.

So, they were both in the area, Adam commits these murders in his mum's class room after killing her (this is just speculation I'm piecing together from reports) what kind of seething hatred did these people or at least Ryan have her, that would drive him to do such a vile act?
 
This is horrible. I'd just like to extend my condolences to everyone affected by this and my heart goes out to the families in Newtown.
 
Incendiary said:
I don't mean to generalize about the whole industry, but there is something that needs to be done about certain aspects in media. Whether it's the producers that need to have their values overhauled, or the actual reporters, or what, I don't know. But the fact is a tragedy just occurred and the families that are closest to it do not need to have microphones shoved in their faces and asked questions about how they are feeling so soon after the incident. There shouldn't be a "first" mentality in national media, they should be concerned with reporting what's "right" and what's "correct." Whoever is asking/demanding for that sort of mentality in the media needs to have their values reworked.
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For the record, Journalists hate 24/7 cable media - whether it was classmates, alumni, or professors - everyone at school bemonaed 24/7 news.

When there's a profit motive that's aligned with immediacy, you have a compromise of values for the sake of salaciousness - hence the PTI-ization of news coverage with massive panels arguing about fuckall.

Sadly, readers don't care about good, long form feature stories apparently. I have a friend at a major Texas city newspaper, and she covers education and city. She's really concerned with social justice, so she focuses on those stories - but she gets little support or visibility from her Editors because, well, people don't read those stories. If you do a wordcloud of headlines across the country, stories about labor and the poor show up only once a year: around Christmas.
 
GK86 said:
Im not(wasn't) able to watch it, can you do a tldr? Thank you.
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I only saw a bit of it, but he nearly cried at the end. Just mentioned that these kids between 5-10 would never grow up, there was a long pause in between the descriptions.
 
Jesus. This is on a whole new level of fucked up.

I feel like I'm a bit emotionally fucked though. I'm not crying nor will I. But I keep seeing and hearing all these men and women all across the country bursting into tears. People who have no connection whatsoever to any of these people, the school, the town, or even the region. It just doesn't make sense to me.
 
Korey said:
These murderers do it for attention. Knowing this, you should go out of your way to deny them this attention so that more people don't follow in his footsteps. We've had two of these this year in that vein.
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Yeah, I understand the sentiment. I just question the effectiveness at this point. The media would just complain and public curiosity would win out, I think.
 
Devolution said:
I left it open after the briefing and regretted that in no time when's the next one? An hour from now?
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Probably. I just got back home after needing tunes and open windows to keep myself awake on the road. Get on GAF and then see this. You said you closed a vid with Dr. Drew. This made Thunder Monkey respect +100.

Interviewing children, tossing names around, and then Dr. Drew. Yep, that's American news.

We do it loud. We do it angry. We do it stupid.

Like I said I'm still in the shocked stage. My mind trying its damnedest to not think too in-depth about the tragedy. Putting faces to the dead is going to be painful.
 
Reiko said:
This is quite possibly the most disgusting mass shooting I've ever heard about.

What a monster.
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Only thing worse I can think of is that mass attack in Sweden/Norway.

Honestly, this is what needs to be covered. The mental health of many people in the USA is horrible. We keep ignoring the issue, and blaming the results on weapons.
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The problem is that it gets very difficult to detain people after they come of age, but these diseases don't appear until after that point. Weapons do exacerbate it though, by essentially creating a "force multiplier."
 
don't wanna run off unsubstantiated reports, but just something I was thinking about... It seems odd that they are saying he had a girlfriend (they are saying she is missing). It seems like these shooters are usually social outcasts and many times girl issues are part of the overarching problem for them (two specific cases I remember from Pittsburgh... guy who shot up LA Fitness turned out to have some creepy diary where he obsessed over girls from the gym.... and guy who shot up Western Psych in Pittsburgh was kicked out of Duquesne University for harrassing female students).
 
Cloudy said:
Insanity
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Certainly not enough events to form a definitive statement about a changing American youth, but does anyone else feel that suburban America is far too alienated from real life communities today to counter a growing sociopath base of murderous fame whores?

Do think incidents like this will become more common as we go forward?
 
I've been sick to my stomach since learning of this. It's fucking horrifying and yet I feel it so much more than I do when reading about how some group of kids were killed in drone strikes that take place nearly every day. I'm beside myself in sorrow and disgust.
 
daw840 said:
Jesus. This is on a whole new level of fucked up.

I feel like I'm a bit emotionally fucked though. I'm not crying nor will I. But I keep seeing and hearing all these men and women all across the country bursting into tears. People who have no connection whatsoever to any of these people, the school, the town, or even the region. It just doesn't make sense to me.
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I mean, people react to all sorts of situations differently, but you don't feel anything in relation to the thought of children being murdered in cold blood in a classroom?
 
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