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Sega Virtual Console games to start at $8 each
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Leatherface
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Polari said:
There's a reason why Steve Jobs fought the music industry to keep the price point per song where it's at. 99 cents a song is the sweet spot. I'd happily give apple .99 cents for a song instead of wasting time hunting down an illegal copy. 99 cents makes it worthwhile NOT to steal the song. THAT is why it's so successful.
Why should I pay $8 for a game I can get at a flea market for $2? What the hell is $8 dollars? where did they come up with that one? LOL
Dragona Akehi
Retired
jett said:I've tried all kinds of filters on emulators. I dislike the blurry look upscaling gives the games. I like my sprites as blocky as they can be.
Of course uh like Polari said, people with LCDs/Plasmas don't have an option.
The Zelda Collection is nice and blocky. Crisp. This was on a Plasma too.
Leatherface
Member
I love Nintendo and all, but the bottom line is Nintendo is starting to come off a wii bit GREEDY here. First off $250 for last gen tech is wtf?! They can't throw us a bone with streamlined virtual console prices... say $4 for classics (nes, turbographics, mastersytem etc..), $6 for the 16bit era, $8 or $10 for n64 era games..
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that wii joke was terrible :lol
*edit*
that wii joke was terrible :lol
Leatherface said:
You're comparing two things that aren't really relative. 99 cents a song comes out, to what, $10 an album anyway, so I don't know why you keep crowing about how it's such a good deal.
As for a game you can get for $2 at a flea market, for that you'll need to drive to a flea market, chances are they won't have any games, let alone the one you're looking for, so you'll have to go to another, and then another. When you finally find it, chances are it'll be more than $2. Then there's the issue of hardware. You'll need the original console in working order. Add on another $30 (Virtual Console supports what, 7 different consoles? So if you want to play a game from all 7, make that $210). Pray that both the console and the game work.
Or buy Gunstar Heroes off the Virtual Console for $8. Download it in seconds, the instant you feel like playing it, and play it in 480p.
Your argument sucks.
solarplexus
Member
800 Wii Points = 8 Euro in Europe = 10.21 in US$
10.21 $ for Sonic? Yeah, right Sega...
10.21 $ for Sonic? Yeah, right Sega...
AdmiralViscen
Banned
$3 is fine by me. $5 is pushing it.
Getting 4 games for $12 is a lot more palatable than $20 or an insane $32. It's not like I don't have half this shit in 3-4 other forms already.
Getting 4 games for $12 is a lot more palatable than $20 or an insane $32. It's not like I don't have half this shit in 3-4 other forms already.
Christopher
BDE (Big Dad Energy)
AdmiralViscen said:
Exactly. I mean why not just put your whole catalog of games on there with a reasonable low price that will attract more buyers aka the casual gamers who the Wii is aimed at instead of jacking up the price so that people will shy away. I'd rather make a profit margin selling Sonic the Hedgehog for 5 dollars and having many consumers rather than having that awkward price of 8 dollars.
800 Wii Points = 8 Euro in Europe = 10.21 in US$
10.21 $ for Sonic? Yeah, right Sega...
Dude Sonic Mega Collection, it's like 15-20 bucks used, great classic games for a fraction of the price, and it runs perfectly on your Wii too.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
And I still don't have a Wii controller that emulates a Genesis or N64 one properly. So it's actually an inferior experience.
For $3 a pop, I'd be thrilled about this, and more inclined to buy a Wii. At prices higher than that, it kills my interest in VC totally. When I get a Wii (not in any hurry at this point), I'll probably get 2 or 3 of the most important games and call it a day. Just a little bit cheaper, and I'd try to be more of a completionist.
Whatever, man. Doom might have been $10, but I got achievements and two online modes. And I won't be buying stuff like Doom too frequently.
For $3 a pop, I'd be thrilled about this, and more inclined to buy a Wii. At prices higher than that, it kills my interest in VC totally. When I get a Wii (not in any hurry at this point), I'll probably get 2 or 3 of the most important games and call it a day. Just a little bit cheaper, and I'd try to be more of a completionist.
Whatever, man. Doom might have been $10, but I got achievements and two online modes. And I won't be buying stuff like Doom too frequently.
patrickthehedgehog
Member
It's probably already been said, but people didn't have a problem spending $20 on 16 bit ports of games for the GBA. I wish it was $5, but people will still buy these for sure.
Would be nice at $5 so you could get two for $10. =(
Would be nice at $5 so you could get two for $10. =(
AdmiralViscen
Banned
patrickthehedgehog said:
Um... lots of people complained about GBA ports.
patrickthehedgehog
Member
AdmiralViscen said:
Yes, but they still sold. Along with the no frills at all NES ports for $15
http://sega.jp/release/nr061101_1.html
Sega makes it OFFICIAL.
Japan = 600 points each
US = 800 points each
Europe = 800 points each
EUROPE LOSES AGAIN! :lol
Coming between Jan to March 2007 will be 12 more titles including Comic Zone, Bonanza Bros and Gain Ground.
Edit: GREAT NEWS. Aiding Sega with the Mega Drive ports is M2, the same guys that've been in-charge of the Sega Ages ports of various arcade and Mega Drive games including the Gunstar Heroes Treasure Box.
Sega makes it OFFICIAL.
Japan = 600 points each
US = 800 points each
Europe = 800 points each
EUROPE LOSES AGAIN! :lol
Coming between Jan to March 2007 will be 12 more titles including Comic Zone, Bonanza Bros and Gain Ground.
Edit: GREAT NEWS. Aiding Sega with the Mega Drive ports is M2, the same guys that've been in-charge of the Sega Ages ports of various arcade and Mega Drive games including the Gunstar Heroes Treasure Box.
SuperPac
Member
Fatghost said:
Actually SF2 on XBLA is $10. It's 800 Microsoft points. And the 720p graphics are nice but it's got a really generic-looking interface in-game.
Virtual Console is as advertised -- a relatively inexpensive way to download classic titles just the way you remembered them. You don't have to buy them -- but I'd rather have the game as I remembered than upscaled/remade with poorly implemented, buggy online modes. Besides, to play any game online on 360 you have to be paying for XBL Gold membership. You're not paying a fee to access WiiConnect24.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Don't forget you'll need to spend $20 on a retro controller to play SF on Wii.
They mentioned something like this in the past. Hasn't been brought up for a looong time.
Javaman said:
They mentioned something like this in the past. Hasn't been brought up for a looong time.
gutter_trash
Banned
what are people moaning about?
if SNES games are $8 then so should Genesis games..... both are 16 bit consoles of the same era
Nintendo fans are so two sided it's insance
if SNES games are $8 then so should Genesis games..... both are 16 bit consoles of the same era
Nintendo fans are so two sided it's insance
AdmiralViscen
Banned
gutter_trash said:
Yes, everyone is thrilled at the prospect of $8 SNES games. You've owned us all!
As long as by "start at" they mean "almost unanimously without exception be," that's great news by me.
I have the distinct feeling the Virtual Console will end up like a DS situation where, because of the low prices
, I'll give a shot to a ton of games I would otherwise never have looked at.
I have the distinct feeling the Virtual Console will end up like a DS situation where, because of the low prices
and the 2D
Christopher
BDE (Big Dad Energy)
SuperPac said:
1.) "just like I remembered it". Oh please, like you don't remember what SF is/was how many times it was released. I'd prefer some kind of graphical enhancements with them charging such high prices for roms, if they were coding the games for the Wii I'd give them a bone, but to just throw them on there.
I mean better textures, more polygones for the characters, something...guess what my memory of Mario 64 was no less tainted after I played Super Mario 64 DS, though I would have loved an analog stick.
2.) WiiConnect24 isn't connecting any of these old games online, or hasn't been said to why are you comparing the service like that when it's totally inane.
gutter_trash
Banned
Sega is matching the price to Nintendo's pricing
if anyone is to blame, it's Nintendo for setting the standard of 8 bucks for 16 bit games.
if anyone is to blame, it's Nintendo for setting the standard of 8 bucks for 16 bit games.
The problem is that Nintendo and Sega think that the games are worth more than they really are, because they don't take into consideration the fact that people have been using emulators for years.
They'll probably come down a bit when they find out that no one wants to buy retro shit for $8 a pop.
Jesus, Nintendo.. $8? LOL, for reals.
They'll probably come down a bit when they find out that no one wants to buy retro shit for $8 a pop.
Jesus, Nintendo.. $8? LOL, for reals.
Eight dollars (to start at?) is way too much for unchanged games. AFAIK they are just dumping ROMs on there and its mostly pure profit. I was looking forward to playing Comix Zone and Gunstar Heroes and such again but at those prices, forget it.
I think $2 for NES, $4 for SNES/Genesis and $8 for N64 would've been fair prices.
I think $2 for NES, $4 for SNES/Genesis and $8 for N64 would've been fair prices.
pizzapizza64
Member
I don't have my Genesis anymore. I don't want to have a Genesis. I don't want my gaming setup to be cluttered with systems I don't play anymore.
So, I think $8 for Gunstar Heroes will suit me just fine.
As for the other Genesis games (minus Toe Jam and Earl), well...yeah. $8 is too much.
I mean...Columns???
Seriously, though, you all know Msoft is going to sell Sonic for 800 points, which equals $10 in their odd money/time/space continuum. So, at least these games are slightly cheaper. Ugh, I don't know.
So, I think $8 for Gunstar Heroes will suit me just fine.
As for the other Genesis games (minus Toe Jam and Earl), well...yeah. $8 is too much.
I mean...Columns???
Seriously, though, you all know Msoft is going to sell Sonic for 800 points, which equals $10 in their odd money/time/space continuum. So, at least these games are slightly cheaper. Ugh, I don't know.
Stormbringer
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Azure Dream
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duckroll said:Edit: GREAT NEWS. Aiding Sega with the Mega Drive ports is M2, the same guys that've been in-charge of the Sega Ages ports of various arcade and Mega Drive games including the Gunstar Heroes Treasure Box.
"Ports" "ports" "ports"
In no way is an emulation a "port." It's a completely different beast altogether. Some games port using emulation tricks rather than a straight-up emulation, but a port would know it's running on a Wii. An emulation thinks it's running on a Genesis.
It's not semantics, it really changes how much can be done with the games, and how much the companies put into them. So I really don't know how I feel about this. On one hand, XBLA games actually require porting work, often have multiple features added, along with achievements, and that earns their money IMO. (Lumines rapetime aside.) But Genesis games are generally much more expansive than the average arcade game (and some of the XBLA games are really ancient, shallow games with lots of padding and dressing up.) But all Sega had to do was secure the rights (and many of the games on that list they already have the rights for, or have secured them just recently for other projects) and test them on emulation software. (Which they've been heavily employing since Sonic Mega Collection for the Gamecube.) And much of the compatibility legwork has been done by amateur/homebrewn emulator developers as it was, and they can't be so foolish as to be completely ignoring that, even if they can't officially say they've employed it. (No reason for them to, anyway.)
So I guess in the end... yeah, I feel ripped off a bit. And I hate that the VC games are priced out of whim range. You have to actively decide to buy one. I was REALLY hoping for "iTunes Candy", buying little samples and pieces as the urge hit you. "Ooh, that looks neat... *buys, fiddles with it for a while, gets bored with it* Ooh, that looks neat..." But now they're picking and choosing which ones they're offering so carefully (primarily ancient ones, Nintendo's being the worst about it), and making you pay out the nose for them. While I could understand staggering their releases to milk titles to the fullest (ala XBLA), even though I don't care for that as a gamer, it's the pricing that really seems short-sighted. And I'm surprised Nintendo didn't even chuck a single "Classic" controller into the Wii box. It really limits (or complicates) "wander-in" buyers, who wouldn't consider the service at first, but get bored one day and decide to explore that part of it.
Companion Cube
Member
I might pay $8 for a good Genesis game. I've paid more for GBA ports.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
needs more sparks at that price
AdmiralViscen
Banned
gutter_trash said:
durrr
Sega Defense Force?
Willy Wanka
my god this avatar owns
If they are just emulated roms then there is no way I'm paying that much.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
The kids seem to love it with the iTunes, but I don't know about this flat pricing. I know the prices are "starting at" and could go higher, and they could be worth it... but that still doesnt' make Altered Beast with no physical existence seem worth $8. If rather than $8 they were in the $4-12 range, that'd be pretty good I think. Basically +/- 50% on all of these mentioned starting prices.
We don't know that for sure. There will be original content eventually, and we know nothing about it.The Eatable Arab said:
bearcatjosh said:
The XBLA retro titles have all been 400 points (five dollars) so far aside from SFII which was ten dollars. And those games have all been updated in some way - enhanced graphics, leaderboards, achievements, sometimes online play.
These games being released unchanged for $8 (and perhaps higher) aren't really cheaper at all.
I don't like that the prices won't add up to $20 very easily. If I buy a 2000pt card, and use it on two SNES/Genesis games, I'll still have 400pts left over, which isn't enough for another game. Keeping things as multiples of $2.50 would have been better:
$2.50 or $5.00 for NES games
$5.00 or $7.50 for SNES/Genesis/TG16 games
$7.50 to $10.00 for N64
$2.50 or $5.00 for NES games
$5.00 or $7.50 for SNES/Genesis/TG16 games
$7.50 to $10.00 for N64