Vyse The Legend
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SEGA: We want to regain customers' trust, learned a lot from Atlus; TGS announcement
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SprachBrooks
Member
Give us Shenmue I & II HD then!
Gunstar Ikari
Unconfirmed Member
Sonic absolutely has a problem with consistency, but it's not like Sonic has ever had a period where it where it was producing nothing but trash. Even in the Heroes/Shadow/06 era, you had the Advance and Rush games, which were well-regarded and cool in their own right.
I feel like Sonic would need to take a generation off and come back with a very strong entry to defeat the meme. That's something that Sega will never do, though.
Castef
Banned
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
I'm curious as to what they'll come up with. Those are very humble things to say, and if you're going to learn from someone, Atlus isn't a bad choice.
Releasing some old games people have been asking for would build up good will, but I imagine they mean something new that'll appeal to a wide range of people.
I'd love more Valkyria Chronicles, more than most even, I adore the series; but I doubt it's that.
Releasing some old games people have been asking for would build up good will, but I imagine they mean something new that'll appeal to a wide range of people.
I'd love more Valkyria Chronicles, more than most even, I adore the series; but I doubt it's that.
Yeah that's fair enough. I guess the point you guys are making is that they could make several good Sonic games and people will still be overly harsh. That it would only take one bad game for it all to fall apart and for the series brand to take a major hit.
I don't even know how Sega escapes that. Normally I would think you just abandon the IP and focus on new IP, or other IP that doesn't have as damaged branding. But yeah. I guess they just need to focus on each game as they work on it. If they do release a 10/10 game, maybe reboot the franchise within that series and make a trilogy of games.
Dragon1893
Member
I love how this quote implies that quality wasn't a concern before.
Good to hear they're waking up though.
SerTapTap
Member
Only consistent quality could stop the meme and Sega seems entirely disinterested in doing that, they would rather milk his qualities as a mascot. Justified or not every Sonic Boom really does erase every other recent Sonic game from everyone's memory.
I honestly can't overly blame people for the hate, Sega clearly does not respect the brand at all and it makes the good modern games look more like accidents. It's like the earnestly believe the "it's for kids and kids don't care about quality" line I hear dragged out every once in a while.
GloriousBagel
Banned
It's good that they understand what we want. Now I hope this means they won't touch Atlus at all.
Because good game doesn't always automatically translate into good sales unfortunately. Sega's history in particular is littered with fantastic games that bombed while crappy rushed Sonic game easily outsold them.
I always thought they had something special with Valkiria Chronicles battle system. They should make the series like tales and just put a chronicles at the end. They can put it in a medevil war setting and even a futuristic setting and just keep the themes. Can't be too hard to make up ancient civilizations
Finale Fireworker
Member
I get this angle. Honestly I think Sega should go the DKCR route and make an honest effort at a great 2.5D Sonic game with all the hallmarks of 1-3. Make it available on everything and just go all out on that smaller, but possibly more successful endeavor.
It's 3D Sonic who started talking and falling through floors. It's 3D Sonic that always struggled for greatness. I don't think Sonic 4 was as strong of an effort as it should have been.
But when it comes to 3D Sonic, I don't know if that formula will work. 3D Sonic might really thrive on a "gotta get back in the game" story. Play the meta a little. There is a resurgence of animal kidnappings and Knuckles tells Sonic they have to get out there. But Sonic is hesitant. Maybe this is a job for somebody else. Maybe be funny, have him in a beret and a striped turtle neck painting a classic portrait of himself. The message is clear, Sonic still sees himself as one of the greats, but hasn't acted like it for years.
Through some coercion he agrees to help. And in between successful levels Sonic is reinforced by his friends. Lose the beret. Lose the turtle neck. Sonic isn't some joke, Sonic is a hero. Don't you remember, Sonic?
And in a humbling, but also exciting and cool classic Sonic adventure, Sonic reforms his identity with a dose of humility too. Because admitting when you were wrong is cool now. And no more corny jokes, actions speak louder than words, and through the gameplay and his campaign Sonic re-establishes himself as a cool hero in a great game.
End game, he hangs up the retro painting, somebody bursts through the door with another crisis. And this time, Sonic is up for it. Let's do this. Freeze frame.
Sonic the Hedgehog: Awakening
RPGCrazied
Member
Skies of Arcadia HD and sequel. Go!
This guy is the founder of Sammy. He simultaneously saved and killed Sega by buying them and dismantling their internal teams, which led to hemorrhaging of talent, so it is not surprising.
Sure, but even if we ignore the age of the port, you don't have to make a retail game in 2015.
In fact, Sega almost never does anymore.
Acquiescence
Member
Can they just level with us what the deal is with the Shenmue HD Collection already? If it's impossible to release due to legal issues then just release an official statement and tell us so. Otherwise, get your thumbs out of your asses and make it happen Sega, now's the time to do it!
RPGCrazied
Member
Yeah, I'd focus on that. Interest from many people is at an all time high from Shenmue 3 coming in the future. If they don't want to capitalize on this moment with the first 2, I'm just at a lose of words.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Release an HD remaster of Skies of Arcadia for PS4/XB1 and then get to work on a sequel and we'll call it good, Sega.
Also, Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations were really good. More of those.
Also, Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations were really good. More of those.
LiquidSolid
Member
6 months to 2 year delays for every title! And they're all region locked! Woo!
Instead of saying "we've changed," how about actually proving it? I fail to see how anyone should have much faith in them.
Primethius
Banned
A Yakuza collection. Or even a localization of 0.
Sega please.
Sega please.
Rabid Wolverine
Member
Panzer Dragoon Trilogy + Saga
Daytona 1 and 2
Scud Race
Sega Rally Series
Virtua Fighter Collection
Virtua Cop 1 and 2
Shenmue 1 and 2 HD
All HD Re-Masters. In my Veins. Now!
Daytona 1 and 2
Scud Race
Sega Rally Series
Virtua Fighter Collection
Virtua Cop 1 and 2
Shenmue 1 and 2 HD
All HD Re-Masters. In my Veins. Now!
To be honest, Sega actually tried their darn hardest last gen and published a tons of unique high quality new IP like Valkyria Chronicles, Binary Domain, Vanquish, Bayonetta, Resonance of Fate, Anarchy Reigns and etc but most of them didn't catch on while Chain Chronicle make ungodly money.
They also did a lot in bringing back their old franchises with remasters like Crazy Taxi, Space Channel 5, Nights, JSR and etc and most of them didn't catch on yet again.
This is why I am really not that salty when Sega say that they want to focus on mobile because they actually tried. Glad they are refocusing but then again, they always have been making consistent and quality products that didn't sell so saying that by putting quality products out there and sales will naturally come is rather inaccurate.
Anyway, Resonance of Fate 2 please!
They also did a lot in bringing back their old franchises with remasters like Crazy Taxi, Space Channel 5, Nights, JSR and etc and most of them didn't catch on yet again.
This is why I am really not that salty when Sega say that they want to focus on mobile because they actually tried. Glad they are refocusing but then again, they always have been making consistent and quality products that didn't sell so saying that by putting quality products out there and sales will naturally come is rather inaccurate.
Anyway, Resonance of Fate 2 please!
djplaeskool
Member
In Sept, it will have been three years since they announced a localized PSO2.
It'd be a nice gesture if they followed through with it, but that iron cooled off long ago.
It'd be a nice gesture if they followed through with it, but that iron cooled off long ago.
silver.tongue
Member
Give us Valkyria Chronicles and all is forgiven!
Yep, that's exactly what they mean when they say they learned from Atlus. Forget the context of this interview.
TC McQueen
Member
I think you mean "more Valkyria Chronicles", because they already released a great port for PC in November 2014.
lol. You are so dark but speaks the truth. I don't need to add anything other than Shenmue being an obviously slap in the face that completely broken current SEGA's way of thinking. I.e. there was too much "I TOLD YOU SO!!!".
Stiflers Mom
Banned
This...
The Sega of nowadays is a completely different entity compared to the Sega of 2000.
There is almost nothing left of that what has been.
A game like "Rez" or even "Segagaga" is so far away from everything they are doing these days.
I really don't have the slightest idea of how they would be able to rejuvenate their brand.
It seems the days of the "Sega Arcade Game" are over, and all they ever release has "quick money grab" written all over it.
There is simply no vision or talent left in whatever modern Sega comprises of.
SuperCambot
Banned
New game announcements from Sega:
"Quality Sonic Racing"
"Quality Sonic Boom II"
"Quality Sonic Racing"
"Quality Sonic Boom II"
silver.tongue
Member
Well, yeah. Also I meant a new game. Not a port.
you know they just released an Initial D game in arcades?
2.5D? You are crazy. That's practically Street Fighter and Tekken, paths that VF should never take.
Megatron
Member
I just wonder how embarrassing Shenmue 3 is for them. Fans begged for this for years,and now that it's coming, the kickstarter is going to set all time records. And that's just the people ok with paying for the game three years in advance. Think of how many more people will buy it when it's actually out? I wonder what lessons Sega learned from this?
Making no more Sonic games ever would be a good first step for Sega.
Fuz
Banned
My thoughts exactly.
"Hey guys, let's make a ton of cheap, shitty games that will easily net a profit!"