milanbaros
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Are you completely unaware of how nearly every other industry pays wages?
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servers complain black people do not tip
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Are you completely unaware of how nearly every other industry pays wages?
Wh........what?
Frank "Trashman" Reynolds
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are you really this dense?
gaming_noob
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I know this is a sensitive subject on GAF, and I've never worked as a waiter myself but do low maintenance customers like myself really need to be tipping 15-20%? I go in, I order my food, I won't complain about anything even if the food is bland or "off", or if the food takes a while to come...I mean I still tip the usual 15% but I always feel like I'm throwing money away.
Razgriz-Specter
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If the service is above the bare minimum
if not base it on your opinion.
0% absolutely terrible, not even a nice attitude
5-10% for a soda/coffee
10-20% average , average with a nice personality
50% crazy good. like drink refills after every sip crazy
You can't be for real :lol
Razgriz-Specter
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I am, its only up to the customers to tip.
this isn't a big deal, either tip or don't. If they're bad its their own fault.
One of the lowest quality jobs around, why not do the same to Mcdonald's workers to.?
Razgriz-Specter
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ConstructiveFrank "Trashman" Reynolds;37701721 said:
For most restaurants the tip will hover right around 20%. I'll tip higher as a % of the bill when going to a well-regarded restaurant with a professional wait staff, like EMP or Blue Hill at Stone Barns in the NYC area.
What do people tip cabbies here? I'm generally in the 20% range as well, unless they completely fuck up or I notice they're purposefully taking a longer route to milk the fare.
What do people tip cabbies here? I'm generally in the 20% range as well, unless they completely fuck up or I notice they're purposefully taking a longer route to milk the fare.
gaming_noob
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The extra 3-5 dollars goes a long way when you have a mortgage, kids, etc. and you're just bringing your family to a restaurant once in a while. Maybe the one who pays for the meal doesn't make much more than the waitress/waiter... But let's not go that way...
FeedMeAStrayCat
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God damn this is one of the worst topics and threads on GAF. Everyone has their own opinions and come from different cultures, countries, etc. You really are wasting your time arguing, because minds will not be changed.
That being said, of course it would be nice if tips weren't part of any service related job, and everyone got paid awesome wages. Fact is, they don't, so just fucking tip if you are in an area that tipping is considered normal and acceptable. I honestly love to give awesome tips, even though I by no means make a lot of money. Isn't it nice to help others out? If they did a decent job, I'll give 15 to 20 percent. If they were amazing or I'm in a particularly good mood, I'll give more. I went to eat at a diner the other day. Got French toast and water. Total bill: five bucks and some change. I tipped her ten dollars, because she was really nice and I was feeling generous, haha. That's certainly not my norm, but damn if I had more money, I would tip like a crazy motherfucker.
That being said, of course it would be nice if tips weren't part of any service related job, and everyone got paid awesome wages. Fact is, they don't, so just fucking tip if you are in an area that tipping is considered normal and acceptable. I honestly love to give awesome tips, even though I by no means make a lot of money. Isn't it nice to help others out? If they did a decent job, I'll give 15 to 20 percent. If they were amazing or I'm in a particularly good mood, I'll give more. I went to eat at a diner the other day. Got French toast and water. Total bill: five bucks and some change. I tipped her ten dollars, because she was really nice and I was feeling generous, haha. That's certainly not my norm, but damn if I had more money, I would tip like a crazy motherfucker.
I am married with a mortgage and kid so I understand every dollar is important. However, after spending years in college as a waiter/bartender I understand that those extra dollars make a huge difference to the server
I can't speak for waiters, but if you expect this to happen for delivery drivers you're delusional. There is no shortage of monkeys willing to drive pizza around for cash; you'll either see the employer laugh in your face or give you the money and never let you work there again. Considering the current job market and economy, I wouldn't be surprised if this happens for waiters too (but I'd be willing to accept that my initial judgement is incorrect).
And what about exceptional performance compared to average/mediocre service? Or the fact that waiters don't give the same quality service to every single customer? Tipping literally gives the customer power to dictate the amount of money a worker gets payed. If they do a shit job, they can get nothing. If they do a great job they can get something. If there were no tips, the shitty service and the great service would be payed the same.
ReadingRambo
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In the U.S. if you can't afford to tip 15-20% then you can't afford to eat out at anything other than fast food. Servers make $2.13 or something an hour and depend on tips to pay rent and eat. Those are the facts. You can decry the follies of our tipping culture all you want but if you eat out here that's what is expected unless the server is terrible (and try to separate kitchen mistakes from server mistakes).
FeedMeAStrayCat
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David Incorporated Esq.
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Delivery drivers get minimum wage or higher and generally get some sort of reimbursement for mileage. Even though I used to be a driver tipping them doesn't really make sense like it does with waiters since you have only the briefest interaction with them. If a driver busts his ass to get the pizza out the door and to you hot you'll never know the difference from the lazy driver who stopped to have a joint.
It's only if you tip consistently well and order at least once a week that you'll start getting better service from the drivers. If I recall there were only a handful of people I delivered to that I would remember how they liked their pizza and ensure that they had all the extras they wanted.
What I'm saying is that tipping drivers is irrational and is only "required" in the sense that you're subsidizing their paycheck so the store can keep pizza prices down.
Same. I have been raised to tip 20% for good service.
They can expect all they want.....doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
ReadingRambo
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I mean societally (not just from the perspective of the server). In my circle we sort of check to make sure that we all leave an adequate tip, or if someone picks up drinks, another will lay down the tip for the whole table.
I don't understand the logic behind this shit. You bet your salary on people committing to unwritten rules and the whims of others and act as if you're entitled to win. Not only that, but its always been easier to get a job at a fast food place - where the check is way more guaranteed.
Why sign up for the shit if you know that the income is anything but certain?
I expect a new car in my driveway
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Why sign up for the shit if you know that the income is anything but certain?
I expect a new car in my driveway
:3
ReadingRambo
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So it's your own fault for becoming a server in the first place. Got it.
Maybe servers should unionize! Then you could force restaurants to have a gratuity on EVERY CHECK!
My plan is brilliant!
ReadingRambo
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In many states in the U.S., saying the word union will get you fired before you can pretend you were trying to say unionized atom.
Why would you choose the job knowing that the income is anything but guaranteed then be upset about it?
Its not like you're dirt fucking poor and can't afford a decent outfit to go to an interview in. Your employment options are not that fucked up. Its a lot easier (and better paying) to get a job as a 3rd shift janitor for an office building than it is to snazzy up and get an interview with Outback.
CommonSense
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This is bullshit. I tip 30% plus if I get great service. Never less than 15-20....
Hey there Richo, DY is expecting a new car in his driveway.
ReadingRambo
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I guess the millions of servers in the U.S. alone do it just for the satisfaction. The tips are just a bonus to them. I hear most donate their extra pay to charity.
CommonSense
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Incorrect. I have bartender and waiting friends in Cleveland bring home over a grand a week. If you're going to make a point...research it first.
So what's the big deal about needing tips then?!
CommonSense
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Uh because it's a grand in tips?
Incorrect. I have a bartender and waiting friends in Cincinnati that bring home under 250 dollars a week. If you're going to make a counter-point...don't make it anecdotal.
Nintendo Ate My Children
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Good Lord at all the poor assholes. If you're in the US, you tip. If you're not in the US, congratulations, your country has a compensation plan for servers that isn't stupid.
If you're in the US and you don't want to tip, go to McDonald's with all the other poors and be happy. Or stay your broke ass at home and reconsider your life.
If you're in the US and you don't want to tip, go to McDonald's with all the other poors and be happy. Or stay your broke ass at home and reconsider your life.
ReadingRambo
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Fact: there are many places in which servers make tons of money. Fact: it is really rude to go to those places and not tip. Fact: servers expect tips in the U.S.
I'm not talking about the guys who bring in a grand. I'm talking about the guys who claim that these tips are the only things keeping the lights on.
That's bullshit. That can go anywhere - with every "MY FRIEND brings in 1,000" you have a "MYYYY FRIEND brings in 40 bucks"
CommonSense
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Obviously it depends where you work....but to blanket say 3rd shift janitors make more than anybody in the service field is flat out wrong.
Also if you don't want to tip then go to places where you order at the counter....there I said it.
So are we supposed to be tipping because servers are poor, or are our wages just making them all fat cats pulling $1k a week??
CommonSense
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If you are sitting on your ass and having someone run around for YOU...you should tip. Go to BK if you want to be a bum.
That's not what I said at all. I keep reiterating that the idea that these tips can be the only thing between getting through college and utter poverty is just ridiculous. To the waiter that can't make ends meet - you can probably find a better job more suited to your needs at the unemployment office.
ReadingRambo
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I want to live in your universe.
CommonSense
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Yes because those decent jobs that accomodate a college schedule grow on trees.
You misunderstand. I ALWAYS tip for good service, but I resent the culture you guys have created where it's assumed I'm required to give 20% minimum no matter what just because my waiter is poverty stricken. Sort your pay-rates out.
I'm not even saying don't tip. I'm just saying that people need to stop acting like they're entitled to the shit.
ReadingRambo
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If they do a good job they ARE entitled to it. That's the way it works.
CommonSense
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That wasn't directed at you. I respectfully disagree with your jobs point...this was for people who keep saying they never tip.
CommonSense
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This culture was in place well before I got here.
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