Gonzo The Great
Banned
That's not saying much, considering at one point G4 was the lowest rated television network in the United States.
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SESSLER'S SOMETHING Nintendo Skipping Their E3 Press Conference
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Fantastical
Death Prophet
Well it won't be on TV for one.
How many countries broadcast it anyway?
GoddyofAus
Banned
*Hardware. They don't want to make hardware anymore. Saying they don't want to make games is a bit extreme. That's sort of their whole deal.
A video's a video. People are going to watch it (or not watch it) regardless. They're doing a closed press event for demos, which is essentially the same as being able to play them on the floor, but in a quieter environment.
brandonh83
Banned
Nintendo is going to film one more Direct in which they publicly execute every Wii U in front of the world's largest firing squad. Or perhaps they'll just nuke the planet from orbit to ensure complete global saturation.
Because:
- it wont be live on tv
- because all major gaming websites wont be promoting it
- because Nintendo does a poor job promoting and announcing NDs so far
Woffls
Member
Always liked Sessler, but I think he has totally missed the point on this one. People who watched the conferences online will watch ND, and the press in the room will actually get to play the games on the floor in a good environment rather than seeing failed demos on stage. The conference will, as it always has been, be focussed on shareholders and major stakeholders. They can keep the graphs.
We've seen Nintendo screw up their message on stage a bunch of times, so this is a way of reaching the relevant people in three distinct ways that are tailored to their needs. I feel like Sessler has trivialised the purpose of a conference and ignored that this efficient messaging might ultimately benefit everyone.
That said, I am fucking devastated that I won't get to see a Nintendo conference this year. I appreciate it might be more effective, but it's not what I enjoy about E3, and I think that's the root of most people's concern.
I am also not at all convinced that this is a good idea, but Sessler's argument was one-sided and shallow.
We've seen Nintendo screw up their message on stage a bunch of times, so this is a way of reaching the relevant people in three distinct ways that are tailored to their needs. I feel like Sessler has trivialised the purpose of a conference and ignored that this efficient messaging might ultimately benefit everyone.
That said, I am fucking devastated that I won't get to see a Nintendo conference this year. I appreciate it might be more effective, but it's not what I enjoy about E3, and I think that's the root of most people's concern.
I am also not at all convinced that this is a good idea, but Sessler's argument was one-sided and shallow.
Killing_Joke
Member
There is no defending this. You're about to have MAJOR competition this x-mas. Why do you give it to Sony/MS without a fight? You guys really believe Nintendo Direct will get anywhere near the coverage Sony/MS will get? It's going to be a rough holiday for nintendo.
No it's not. This is the one show that's covered by the main stream. Televising to 60,000 Nintendo fans on Nintendo direct is targeting no one new. This was a punk move by Nintendo because they didn't want to be embarrassed by the PS4/Xbox conferences. And so they're just going to go dark during the one event the mainstream covers. Awesome strategy.
BlazingDarkness
Member
They're going to shun them because Nintendo has taken their toys back and will only let the press play with them on their terms - at E3 it's basically a press playground, undoubtedly sees more traffic in those few days than the rest of the year - Nintendo removes themselves from that circus so why should the press chase after them?
Wonder what will happen when Sony and Microsoft announce "we won't be doing a E3 Conference this year" in the next few E3's.
I agree with him about this but.....isn't that the same audience that's going to watch the E3 conferences anyway? The press will report the games no matter how they're announced, no? Most people who wouldn't watch a Direct...or an E3 presser...will read about the announcements on something like IGN anyway.
Right?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
What do you mean this. Are you dense? Theres one big factor and thats tv broadcasting of it. Reposting form other thread:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/06/15/spike-tv-and-gametrailers-com-score-big-with-record-breaking-viewership-during-the-2011-electronic-entertainment-expo-e3/95673/
If what Adam Sessler said is right then Nintendo's conference may have even more views. (not on G4)
DeaconKnowledge
Member
The mainstream press covers the Westminster Dog show. Doesn't mean they care.
redmetal86
Member
At least you get to go to the press thing at the booth Sessler. Possibly.
I'll take your free pass if you don't want it.
I'll take your free pass if you don't want it.
DragonSworne
Banned
They will hold conferences outside of E3 like Sony did for the PS4 reveal and MS is doing for the next Xbox reveal and Nintendo use to do at Space world.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Huh.
so the only problem guys like G4 IGN GT and all others who streamed E3 Conferences is that Nintendo is cutting them out of that huge net traffic/ratings?
smh please continue your Directs Iwata the media don't care about your box
- I'm certain GameTrailers will put it on TV with all their other E3 coverage
- I'm pretty sure every major gaming website is going to be promoting it, particularly if Nintendo E3 events got major traffic in the past
- It's tied to E3. I'm pretty sure everyone will know to expect it.
Yes, at the E3 show floor, which seems to be the same as everyone else.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I agree. If the announcement's big enough, it probably doesn't matter whether you get it at E3 or not. The importance of E3 may be a bit overblown.
On the other hand though, and this is where Sessler is right, they are sticking their head in the sand. On any other E3, this wouldn't be that big of a deal, but this is the year where MS and Sony are going all out on presenting their new system. Not doing a keynote is sending a weird signal, if only to the press and enthousiasts. And of course the WiiU needs every bit of attention it can get.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
And that is purely Americans. Even if ND reaches that amount of viewers, it will be less seen as the numbers will be international.
GoddyofAus
Banned
They don't have to care. The audience may very well care. That's the point.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Now we're going to see even more bile from the gaming press towards Nintendo, if that was even possible.
If the audience cared, said news reports wouldn't consist of a 30 second blurb during the slow period of the news cycle.
If the audience cared, said news reports wouldn't consist of a 30 second blurb during the slow period of the news cycle.
But you just said that Iwata is "actively" shrinking Nintendo because of this.
If Sony and Microsoft give up on a main E3 Conference like Nintendo this year wouldn't you also have to say that they are "actively" shrinking their markets?
They are having a private event for the press.
krypt0nian
Banned
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BruceLeeRoy
Banned
In all seriousness though that press announcement made it sound like they are fully using the attention afforded at E3 to unveil new games and experiences. I think it takes away some of the Internet excitement of E3 not to do a full press event but if they are still going to be using that time to show us new IP(which is what it sounds like) then I think it won't be that big a deal.
You still have not told me why magically less people will be watching this video that will be treated like any live stream Nintendo's done at E3 in the past.
Unless, of course, all the game sites decide they don't want to cover any of Nintendo's stuff, which i doubt will happen.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Exactly. The fact people want to believe that Nd some how get the same views as E3 press conferences is frankly absurd.
TV. If its broadcasted on TV then the argument may actually make sense.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Best conferences are the horrible ones, who can forget the amazing 599 US dollars scene, Kinect demos or the Wii Music embarrassment. People barely remember the positive moments...save for Zelda 2004 trailer.
Same games will be covered by the press with or without the conference.
Same games will be covered by the press with or without the conference.
So much overreaction and jumping to conclusions...
I need to learn to wait 1 or 2 days after news like this hits these boards.
A stage show has its benefits, but...
If they focus on the games they don't need a stage.
Because in the end its not about the box, thats we
already know about in Nintendo's case, its what games
the box can play.
And I think Nintendo's strategy to steal thunder from
MS and Sony, will be providing more games for people
to actually play on the show floor, than what MS or Sony
might be able to provide at the time.
They will want to harness the rapid way that people
in this day an age can post impressions on what they
have seen and played.
Nintendo execs and reps can also make better use of their time in
making deals with developers and publishers on the floor
rather than rehearsing for a stage show.
If they focus on the games they don't need a stage.
Because in the end its not about the box, thats we
already know about in Nintendo's case, its what games
the box can play.
And I think Nintendo's strategy to steal thunder from
MS and Sony, will be providing more games for people
to actually play on the show floor, than what MS or Sony
might be able to provide at the time.
They will want to harness the rapid way that people
in this day an age can post impressions on what they
have seen and played.
Nintendo execs and reps can also make better use of their time in
making deals with developers and publishers on the floor
rather than rehearsing for a stage show.
DragonSworne
Banned
No, because the MS and Sony will still host huge conferences. Nintendo is actively shrinking Nintendo's market cap by strictly going YouTube videos with Nintendo Direct.
nckillthegrimace
Member
Stop it with your reason and logic and patience and literacy. There's no place for that when we're making kneejerk reactions.
GoddyofAus
Banned
That is the ignorance of the mainstream press, not the perceived interest level of the audience. The mainstream press wouldn't have any fucking idea what appeals to their audience and what doesn't. Why do you think newspapers are dying?
Damn good point.
No-one has been able to explain *why* that is.
They're still having media events and presentations and such, just more focused. Are people really missing this? Nintendo will still be at E3, they will be showing off new games to the press and eveyone else and their mother, and will have their games on the show floor.
And Nintendo isn't Apple though. People foam at the mouth over any new Apple news because Apple is huge. Apple could have a 5 minute presentation on the iPhone 18, and the press would still be all over it.
Nintendo will be employing a similar strategy here, have different presentations and media events for each entity of the gaming industry. The news will still spread.
so how do you know this will not happen
equippedwithtowel
Member
Is every non-nintendo convert going to turn off their stream when they see the Nintendo Direct logo?
If its at 9am PST June 11 and they show off 3D Mario and Smash Brothers nobody will give a shit whether its pre-recorded or not.
If its at 9am PST June 11 and they show off 3D Mario and Smash Brothers nobody will give a shit whether its pre-recorded or not.
Takamura-San
Member
Activision had one, it was called the Microsoft press conf.