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Shadow warrior 2 footage from pax
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Tomasoares
Member
Huge dissapointment that the levels are Randomly generated.
MiguelItUp
Member
Loved the original, loved the last game, and surely I'll love this one as well. Looks like chaotic fun, and good god is it gorgeous!
Almost 20years ago when I played SW and it became my favorite before the Duke I could never fathom during the later years where a sequel was totally out of the question, that there would be a day where the Duke is not only gone but also extremely badly sent off while SW would revive in good hands. Unbelievable after so many years.
I'm convinced they could actually make Duke Nukem cool again. Based on Shadow Warrior, you're so right - they get it.
mcz117chief
Member
It's a design choice. There will be a considerable amount of loot and they want to make the game feel unique every time you play it. I am glad that they are going this route, the story is still there though, so I expect that there will be only some parts that will be randomly generated and other that will be fixed.
grandwizard
Member
God damn this looks good! Loved the first one and it's easily the best modern re imagining of an old school shooter classic. Super hyped for this one.
Aww maan
Not in one game has this random generated aspect worked to a desired effect yet that I've played. They're never better than carefully designed sections.SneakyStephan
Banned
The levels are randomly generated? It didn't look like it from the video (though it only showed a small area)
That would be a real shame, everything else about it looks so good
Oh. I'm out, then.
Messofanego
Banned
One of my favourite FPSs of all time has random generation (SWAT 4), it was to do with enemy placement. Even that was limited to just less than a handful of variations.
If they're using random generation to give replay value like when you restart after dying or playing co-op and the AI feels different each time much like a L4D experience rather than enemy scripting that you can just memorise, fine by me. Also, different weather/TOD is always awesome. The level layout probably won't be that random like if you compare it to roguelite games. And hey, you didn't notice it from watching footage, so...
www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/04/24/pax-east-16-shadow-warrior-2-preview-intelligent-design-ps4/
If they're using random generation to give replay value like when you restart after dying or playing co-op and the AI feels different each time much like a L4D experience rather than enemy scripting that you can just memorise, fine by me. Also, different weather/TOD is always awesome. The level layout probably won't be that random like if you compare it to roguelite games. And hey, you didn't notice it from watching footage, so...
“The levels are randomly generated,” Paweł Kowalewski, one of the game designers of Shadow Warrior 2, told me at PAX.
“If you look around,” he said, turning to face the several people playing the game on different screens behind us, “everyone is playing the same mission, but each of them is playing on a slightly different level layout, or in different weather conditions or a different time of day. So, we want to keep the experience fresh, whenever you’re replaying the same mission, or restarting your game.”
“If you look around,” he said, turning to face the several people playing the game on different screens behind us, “everyone is playing the same mission, but each of them is playing on a slightly different level layout, or in different weather conditions or a different time of day. So, we want to keep the experience fresh, whenever you’re replaying the same mission, or restarting your game.”
www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/04/24/pax-east-16-shadow-warrior-2-preview-intelligent-design-ps4/
I'm pretty stoked for this. I really liked the first one even though I never finished it, and I was a fan of the original back in the day.
I got the first game on steam when it was fairly new, and Best Buy was selling brand new copies of the game for X1 and PS4 for 8 bucks for a while so I grabbed a physical copy. Doesn't look like the carry it anymore (other than used copies).
Floating numbers? thatsmyfetish.gif
Yeah, not a fan of random levels, but hopefully the way they pull it off is good.
I got the first game on steam when it was fairly new, and Best Buy was selling brand new copies of the game for X1 and PS4 for 8 bucks for a while so I grabbed a physical copy. Doesn't look like the carry it anymore (other than used copies).
Floating numbers? thatsmyfetish.gif
Yeah, not a fan of random levels, but hopefully the way they pull it off is good.
Well, that's different! That's not random level generation, is it? They're creating a bit of random variation, but generation is something else.
Dictator93
Member
Thx for that. That sounds so much better than some sort of rogue like thing.
They talked about random generation year ago. In general, some parts of the world have randomly generated layouts to make game more replayable, but some, more story focused are always the same.
In a game like this good level design is not that crucial, especially with a moveset they're giving out. What is the most crucial is the enemy design, density and balance.
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Posts like this are hilarious.
In a game like this good level design is not that crucial, especially with a moveset they're giving out. What is the most crucial is the enemy design, density and balance.
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Posts like this are hilarious.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Looks like its time for some Wang
Ohh I for a second there mixed it up with Rogue Warrior. Now I'm fucking pissed as fuckin shit. Thanks a fucking lot you mother fuckers for fucking making think this fucking game was that fucking game. Fuck.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Been on my Day 1 list since watching the E3 vids last year. Does it have a release date?
Gameplay reveal at E3 and release during the holidays, I can see Bethesda urge Arkane to release it like Fallout 4.
Still better than their approach last game of pretty linear spaces with few secrets or reasons to explore vs. the 90s original. Level design was the weakest part of Flying Wild Hog's otherwise good game.
Looks good. First thing I do is turn off the numbers and healthbars.
Dictator93
Member
That gamespot gameplay. lol at the gamepad play. Seriously, a game like this looks so fumbly and terrible on a pad.
True. But I did not enjoy the double-tab activation of the powers, it felt so clunky. Will this remain in the second one?
SilverArrow20XX
Walks in the Light of the Crystal
I completely forgot the reboot existed. I thought this was just a sequel to the 1997 game.
No more double-tapping.
speedomodel
Member
Pacing was a mess I felt on the last one, really dragged on.
This looks awesome and will most likely be there Day One.
This looks awesome and will most likely be there Day One.
mcz117chief
Member
late 2016 so far
EraErr0r1
Member
Very much this!
Gearbox, if you're looking for a developer to legitimately outsource Duke Nukem to AND avoid another Aliens: Colonial Marines scenario, Flying Wild Hog is the answer. I feel they'd actually interpret the ip correctly and develop the key fundamentals to what made it great in the first place.
Imagine an alternate reality where Duke Nukem Forever released with even the caliber of the first Shadow Warrior reboot. (despite minor flaws) Alright I might begin to lay off the drugs a little!
All delusions aside, I'm very impressed with what I've seen of SW2. I want some more Wang.
I thought the first game used UE3 but was told they actually use an in-house engine, so this probably does too.
Edit: They even say it's their own engine in the footage
StrategyFan
Member
i liked hard reset more than their shadow warrior, but nobody makes good FPS games anymore so i'll be picking this up
bitbydeath
Member
Damn, I wish.
The reboot wasn't anywhere near as good imo.
Sword is too op compared to everything else.
Humour is lacking.
Wang VA isn't even trying to sound or act like the original. (Seriously what the hell????)
And overall it just lacks variety in evironments and even the weapons don't hold a candle to the original.
No suicide guys either and the girls are just tributes to the old game and even with the same 1997 graphics.
For newcomers to the series it is probably great though....
RedAssedApe
Banned
the melee combat is part of what separates it from other games though. the original was just a re-skinned duke3d.
Dictator93
Member
Yeah, the sword is what made it so much fun and was its best asset. It seems like they made the shooting that much better so far for the sequel (which is great).
bitbydeath
Member
And still better than 99% of todays shooters
Also the original had decent sword melee but the other weapons were just as fun to use.
Possumowner
Member
Looks damn nice to me,I loved the first and this one seems an improvement going by the media I've seen