Haunted
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That's so useless and naive and blue-eyed, I don't really know what to say.
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SHENMUE 3 kickstarter (PC/PS4) - FINAL DAY - NEW KS RECORD GO GO GO!
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Alex_Mexico
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Care to explain why you think that?
Game companies pay to get put on Clueless Gamer. It's a form of advertisement.
Agent Unknown
Member
So are they seriously thinking about having other playable characters besides Ryu (hope not)?
Most of the Clueless Gamer segments are actually paid promotional pieces by the publisher of the game.
There have been a few that obviously weren't paid for (like the Atari games one) but the vast majority are paid for.
For specific missions. Imagine infiltrating the Chi You Men base while switching between Ryo, Shen Hua, and Ren, like a GTA V heist. And you'd be utilizing each characters' unique abilities.
This. I suppose a lot of people underestimate the time and money it takes to handle physical rewards. You have to keep in mind that people with no experience in this field have to handle thousands (or even ten thousands) of orders, you have to think of the space this takes to stock etc.
Haunted
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What Gavin and Bluth said above.
If we're supposing that they're trying to get somewhere, I'm just telling them to get off the treadmill. It's wasted effort and makes them look stupid."If you run, you stand a chance of losing. If you don't run, you've already lost."
Alex_Mexico
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That may be true but Bloodstained already set the precedent. If those guys could now people demand Shenmue to do it too.
In fact they're already doing it for PC so why not PS4?
Iga was taking physical copies of his game for FIVE platforms!
Agent Unknown
Member
Hmmm, Ok I guess that might be kinda neat. Guess we'll see.
Edit: Oh man, Conan playing Shenmue would be hilarious, have they ever done older systems on Clueless Gamer before?
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Fully support this! It would do wonders for the kick-starter. Spread it around guys!
Stats updated, slowly ticking up after a little bump up the past two days:
https://shenmuetalk.wordpress.com/stats/
Also, if you missed it yesterday, I made another backer news-episode in my shenmuetalk-series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOLK2DP6Zb0&index=6&list=PLcLC9mFS4Xzp6UW3aNIWoAsxHQ6m-xfUp
Found out another friend attempted to back this but had problems with the payment procedure but it seems to work for a lot of other people so he'll try again. Wished for Shenmue I+II HD edition though. Also convinced my brother to put down $29. We must try to keep selling this to more people.
https://shenmuetalk.wordpress.com/stats/
Also, if you missed it yesterday, I made another backer news-episode in my shenmuetalk-series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOLK2DP6Zb0&index=6&list=PLcLC9mFS4Xzp6UW3aNIWoAsxHQ6m-xfUp
Found out another friend attempted to back this but had problems with the payment procedure but it seems to work for a lot of other people so he'll try again. Wished for Shenmue I+II HD edition though. Also convinced my brother to put down $29. We must try to keep selling this to more people.
El_Cinefilo
Member
Yes!!!!
Fighting for Shenmue to get on clueless gamer is such a waste of everyone's time and energy. I'd rather try to get people to learn about the Kickstarter campaign.
People who stream games on twitch/YouTube should try to play Shenmue 1 and 2. I think that's way more efficient.
And as for the voice acting, I wish people would stop treating Shenmue III as a nostalgia project. The end goal is for Shenmue III to be successful so that we can get Shenmue IV. Bad voice acting won't help us get new people interested in the series. Bad voice acting won't fly in 2017. Bad voice acting will make people think that Shenmue is a parody or a funny game, and it's neither. I'm sure Corey Marshall means well (and loves the publicity), but I'd prefer if he stayed as far away from Shenmue III as possible.
People who stream games on twitch/YouTube should try to play Shenmue 1 and 2. I think that's way more efficient.
And as for the voice acting, I wish people would stop treating Shenmue III as a nostalgia project. The end goal is for Shenmue III to be successful so that we can get Shenmue IV. Bad voice acting won't help us get new people interested in the series. Bad voice acting won't fly in 2017. Bad voice acting will make people think that Shenmue is a parody or a funny game, and it's neither. I'm sure Corey Marshall means well (and loves the publicity), but I'd prefer if he stayed as far away from Shenmue III as possible.
Theonik
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The original games are relatively hard to get a hold of. They should have organised this better, getting some online personalities aboard but rushing things and keeping it all under wraps to protect Sony's precious megaton was more important than making the campaign successful.
I kind of agree. I get the fan's intention and Shenmue's VA can be insufferable to endearing depending on who you ask, but it really harms people taking the project seriously in the age we live in.
Ryo Hazuki
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Another weekend with zero updates I see. A bit of a shame this seems to be the trend. Most people are off work on weekends and they could utilize this time to push out updates and content to engage people with the kickstarter and get more pledges. They haven't even pushed out an update after the Twitch stream summarising it or anything. A little disappointed by this.
Haunted
Member
This includes the people running the KS.
Ryo Hazuki
Member
This includes the people running the KS.
Hahaha, good point.
This includes the people running the KS.
They seem to be off more than just the week ends ..............
Conan has visited E3 the past couple of years however the segments had him on the show floor playing games and interviewing people, I don't see him doing anything with Shenmue 3 in that format for the E3 video if he did one this year.
Lovely Salsa
Banned
Is it me or has it been at 3,73 mil for 2 days now?
Nope, not just you.
This KS is pretty much stagnating and I don't think that between now and the last day anything major will happen to push that thing further forward.
It's slowly crawling to 4 million. wait another 5-6 days.
Night Hunter
Banned
What is wrong today? I think in the last 9 hours it actually lost money. Or is the KS site broken?
It was on the cusp of 3.74 this morning, and just went up and down on 3.73 over and over instead
250,000 seems like a fucking mountain to climb at this point. Until its above 4 million, I don't feel comfortable about the final push. Making 25k a day, which would be consistent movement its still going to take 10 days. It could just be crossing 4 million moving into its final stretch, which puts pressure on it making a million its last several days. It will definitely get a push then but its fans contributed mightily to start, not sure if that will be possible.
$30 on the 3rd is really what to look at for its crossing 4mil and setting it up well enough window.
250,000 seems like a fucking mountain to climb at this point. Until its above 4 million, I don't feel comfortable about the final push. Making 25k a day, which would be consistent movement its still going to take 10 days. It could just be crossing 4 million moving into its final stretch, which puts pressure on it making a million its last several days. It will definitely get a push then but its fans contributed mightily to start, not sure if that will be possible.
$30 on the 3rd is really what to look at for its crossing 4mil and setting it up well enough window.
Haunted
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the rats are leaving the sinking ship!
Stumbled upon this and this guy's view is spot on as it re-iterate what most of us has been saying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_U1Z6_Isjs
Here's hoping that journalist will be more supporting as Shenmue and Yu Suzuki behind the wheel is a good thing.
Here's hoping that journalist will be more supporting as Shenmue and Yu Suzuki behind the wheel is a good thing.
It can happen, since you can always cancel a pledge. Some KS campaigns even have been trolled (funded a couple minutes before the end, then a drop under the goal just seconds before the end).
Not sure either...
Usually, the kickstarter progress slowly but continuously because people interested discover the campaign a bit late, but I'm pretty sure virtually anyone interested in Shenmue 3 has heard about it now. The E3 announcement made it even more frontloaded as usual, and that killed the momentum later.
I'm not even sure it'll see as great a bump near the end as usual KS. With 3.7M now, it should reach 7-8M at the end with usual behavior, but I wouldn't be surprised it doesn't reach those milestones. Even 6M doesn't seems like a given now.
They REALLY need to find compelling rewards so that many people already in boat upgrade their pledge... because they may have already gathered a large percentage of people interested.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Adding a physical PS4 version and the $30 on the 3rd campaign will definitely give the kick-starter a nice boost. I'm probably going to do a PSA thread on GAF in regards to the $30 on the 3rd campaign. It's gonna need as much exposure as possible!
sammyCYBORG
Member
I don't understand the negativity. 2 weeks ago Shenmue 3 was a punchline. Now it's actually happening, in some form.
Stop worrying and enjoy the ride. It's got nearly 2x the original goal. It's happening. That's infinitely better than what we had 2 weeks ago.
Stop worrying and enjoy the ride. It's got nearly 2x the original goal. It's happening. That's infinitely better than what we had 2 weeks ago.
I noticed that Pillars of Eternity, game that got just under $4m on KS, had a publisher come on while it was in development. Were the Western games media upset about that the way a lot of them are about Sony's involvement in the Shenmue 3 KS?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obsidian/project-eternity/description
http://www.obsidian.net/press/eternity/obsidian-partnership-with-paradox
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obsidian/project-eternity/description
http://www.obsidian.net/press/eternity/obsidian-partnership-with-paradox
Fox Mulder
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At least the game is happening regardless of what they get now, anything else just improves it.
it was risky to try shenmue 3 even without releasing the first two to jump start interest. Even more so with a poorly communicated kickstarter with vague info and bullshit about Sony's involvement out the gate.
The audience for this was always going to be small but the games have spiked on ebay and people are buying them after this announcement. I doubt existing shenmue fans are just now rushing out to pay peak prices for the games now. Someone new to the franchise might not have even pledged yet after just buying the prior games on older consoles.
You're largely right. It was such a behemoth when that E3 announcement happened. 1.98m to 2m in a span of 8 minutes at like 3:30pst. 300 new backers. The fans, who stuck around and grew in passion over 14 years really showed up and made themselves heard and funded this thing quickly.
I think it's just hit a ceiling in how much money they can give to it right now, but theres no less desire to see the game made. This is Shenmue's reintroduction to the world is something that's hard to keep in mind. I think it will be supported its best to the end of this KS, and beyond it. If its allowed more donations to pool in, Shenmue fans will fund the game they want to see made.
These stretch goals, Yu's broader vision of Shenmue are so ideal and wanted, that fans passion to see the absolute best is driving it to frustration. But whatever happens, its an amazing showing and theres a lot to be proud of and excited for. And I think Yu himself feels that way too and that's what will matter in the end. That synergy to making this 3rd game.
I really hope Sega chips in and says they'll release HD versions. It only seems right. But knowing Sega, they would probably ask for KS money to fund them haha. An announcement of that would be really great though, a real battle cry that the series is still kicking, beloved and taken care of.
Exactly, this just shows that the thirst for Shenmue is huge. EVEN AFTER 14 YEARS.
We all are hoping the kickstarter will show SEGA our support of a HD remake. If they can they should try and capitalize on 3's success. I really hope they do it to gather more support from new players.
Night Hunter
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AcePartyN7
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If Sony is not funding the project then why not announce it on Xbox One as well? I think it will be a good bonus for them to have the Xbox One players to pay a bit. Personally I could be interested to participate if the game will be on Xbox One otherwise no, I do not own a PS4 and my PC is only a laptop so why I should contribute if I can't play the game.
Some people were annoyed but sensible people realize that publishers handling nothing but distribution is perfectly fine for a crowdfunded project. The developers still own the IP and they still get a much larger cut of the finished product than they would in a traditionally published game. The developers also save the time and money it would take to set up the distribution methods and ad campaign from scratch. Everybody wins.
Theonik
Member
Even though it's doomed to fail, it still brings exposure to the project.
Rising_Hei
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Shenmue 1&2 anime adaptation by madhouse, can i have it?
Dreaming it's free.... i think that'd would help revitalice shenmue again, if they also announce the HD versions l
As for the KS campaign, i'm sure lots of people are waiting to see if they add a PS4 retail release (that's my case actually), no retail box for PS4 makes the game feel like a lesser thing, it's a matter of appreciation and i'm sure most people agree.
Dreaming it's free.... i think that'd would help revitalice shenmue again, if they also announce the HD versions l
As for the KS campaign, i'm sure lots of people are waiting to see if they add a PS4 retail release (that's my case actually), no retail box for PS4 makes the game feel like a lesser thing, it's a matter of appreciation and i'm sure most people agree.
I'm starting to think that all that FUD comes from pro MS sites
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