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Shoot the Core! - Gaf Shoot em Up (aka Shooter/SHMUP) Reference Thread
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PepsimanVsJoe
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I dunno. I just read over on the shmups forum that this game is probably going to be a retail release. Not 100% confirmed but there is a regular and limited edition mentioned so....
fatty
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Just a heads up that Gundemonium Collection will be half price ($7.49) from November 23-29.
fatty said:
I'm a total shmup noob, but I've been playing the Ikaruga trial and having quite a lot of fun. Are you sure the polarity aspect of the game isn't active on Easy? I've definitely been absorbing black bullets when black and white bullets when white.
I've read that if you put in around 8 hours of game time into Ikaruga that infinite continues will be unlocked. If that's true and I can use them to get thru the game despite lacking skills then I'll probably buy it. Then once I've beaten the game once, I can start trying to do it properly. Even if these are the only Achievements I'll be able to get, I'll still be happy.
Target: Eboshidori 10
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HiddenWings
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fatty said:
I was considering this when it was new. I haven't seen much in the way of reviews for these, are any of the three any good?
iconoclast
Member
Eccocid said:
Yeah, the polarity aspect is still in place. The difficulty just affects suicide bullets I think:
Easy = no suicide bullets
Normal = suicide bullets when you kill an enemy of the same color
Hard = enemies always release suicide bullets
The achievements for getting A-ranks aren't too brutal, since the max rank for each stage is S++, so you have some room for mistakes. That being said, if you want those achievements, you'll still have to memorize every stage from beginning to end pretty much.
The dot eater achievement is pretty easy too.
I went ahead and bought it and I have managed to beat the first three bosses on Easy and also get the Dot Eater Achievement. Well worth the $10.
I love how there are only two or three people on the Leaderboard who have finished level 4 and level 5 with the Dot Eater rank. They must have superhuman reflexes and patience.
I love how there are only two or three people on the Leaderboard who have finished level 4 and level 5 with the Dot Eater rank. They must have superhuman reflexes and patience.
Curufinwe said:
Actually, you won't find the best Ikaruga players on XBLA because the 360 version isn't 100% arcade perfect. They still play on Dreamcast or PCB (don't worry, 99% of the players won't notice any difference).
Here's an insanely good run (on hard, not world record but damn close):
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11224882
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11226061
chapters 4 and 5 are mind blowing.
sixteen-bit
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A shootCurufinwe said:
B swap
A+B fire ze missles
60_gig_PS3
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PepsimanVsJoe
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It's whatever Konami wants it to be actually.sfried said:
Sometimes it's shoot the center, other times it's shoot the core, maybe it's destroy the mouth, whatever.
Not sure if anybody really cares but NCS put up Milestone Shooting Collection 2 for order, end of the month release. I'm happy since Ilvello got cancelled for stateside release:
http://www.shopncsx.com/milestoneshootingcollection2.aspx
http://www.shopncsx.com/milestoneshootingcollection2.aspx
sixteen-bit
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Definitely worth jumping on it at that price, as long as the arcade inconsistencies don't bother you that much.fatty said:
Finished my J-360 shooter collection! Fifteen titles total if you add in DoDonPachi R and Radirgy (both not in photo). The system will be twenty strong by next summer. A far cry from the fifty to sixty shooters released for the Saturn but J-360 has so many Cave heavy-hitters that are special. Hopefully there are another two to three years of shooting fun for the system!
JustAnotherOtaku
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Yes Boss! said:
Very nice! I have 11 in my J-360 disc-based shooter library and it's one of my favourite aspects of my collection for any system.
sixteen-bit
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Nice group shot!
I'm gonna keep collecting them, good or bad, through the life of the system.JustAnotherOtaku said:
Guess I might add Senko no Ronde and the sequel but I'm still not sure what those are or if they qualify. It was hard enough to actually buy Strike Witches.
Notable misses in my collection: I only have the SE of Ketsui since I was gone when it released and play-asia just pushed a two-year-old standing order for the SE through. Don't have the LE of Espgaluda II..but worked out well because I would rather have supported the region-free version.
And it drives me nuts that the LE of Deathsmiles is in a non-standard box. Thankfully Cave has kept them consistent since then.
Can't wait for Pink Sweets!
Oh yeah, forgot about the five-odd XBLA releases. Gotta say, the J-360 shooter collection is getting mature! It is over the hump and on its way to greatness!
JustAnotherOtaku
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Yes Boss! said:
Ah, I forgot about the 2 SnR games now that you mention it. That takes me up to 13.
I think all I'm missing is Shikigami no Shiro 3 (have it on J-Wii), Strike Witches and Shooting Love.
Definitely. Can't wait for the Radiant Silvergun release date announcement!
JustAnotherOtaku
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Yes Boss! said:
On the VC? The two that come to mind immediately are Waku Waku 7 (Neo Geo) and Super Hang-On (Virtual Console Arcade). I can't think of anything else right now, but I'll have a look through my J-Wii later to see what I downloaded this year.
If you are counting retail releases, there wasn't too much Japanese exclusive Wii releases this year. Tales of Graces was late last year but still well worth it if you are a JRPG/Tales fan. Taiko no Tatsujin 3 was just released and I enjoyed it too. In fact, looking at my Wii collection, TnT 3 was the only Japanese game I bought all year. The rest were US versions.
JustAnotherOtaku
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Yes Boss! said:
It's great - one of my favourite Neo Geo games and probably one of my favourite 2D fighters too. It has some great characters and is just generally a lot of fun. If it shows up on the PS3 as a Neo Geo download I'll rebuy it in a heartbeat. Actually I'm still trying to track down the Saturn version too for a decent price.
JustAnotherOtaku
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Yes Boss! said:
Nice one
Haven't played that one myself, you may have seen in the pickup thread that I got Fighting Vipers for the Saturn a few days ago so looking forward to spending some time with it! Love FV2 on the DC but for some reason never bought the original.
I'm at my mom's house and she has an older 36" CRT. Got my saturn hooked up to it and I'm playing some games I own but never really played! Best holiday ever. Kingdom Grand Prix is too weird so I'll play that down the line. Settled on Metal Black which is a bit clunky but totally unique. Reminds me of Syd Mead's Terraforming. I'm loving it! I'm bringing my Saturn back to europe with me and going to work on completing my Saturn shooter collection next year. No fighters just yet...I'll get those in a year or two.
JustAnotherOtaku
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Yes Boss! said:
Sounds great! I got my old CRT back from my bro a few months back and now have a dedicated SD corner of my room for hooking up pre-current gen consoles too. So much better than having them look poor on my HDTV.
That'll be well worth the effort, so many great Saturn shmups. I keep looking at my Saturn collection and thinking it should be bigger but truth is, I have the vast majority of the must-have exclusives and own the fighters on other consoles, so without them it means there's a lot less to buy!
iconoclast
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So, has anyone else played Strike Witches? I've been playing it over the last week or so, and I think it's actually pretty good game. It has its problems and it's not particularly great or anything, but it's still pretty fun. I just got my 1000/1000 on it, so here's my review:
+ Character selection. There are 12 different girls you can select for your team, and each of them have their own abilities. Of course, some of them are [a lot] more powerful than the other, but it gives nice variety.
+ Bullet patterns, level design, and enemy variety is pretty good for the most part.
+ Pretty robust story mode. There are four preset teams you can play the story with. There's lots of dialog and all of it's fully voiced. This is probably awesome if you're a Strike Witches fan who can read Japanese. I guess.
+ Bosses are [mostly] good, but some of them last too long, since each boss has multiple phases. The only boss that I think kinda sucks is the one on stage 4, since half the time on Normal mode you can kill him without having to dodge anything.
+ Decent set of achievements. There are four skill-based achievements for 1cc'ing normal, hard, and very hard, and one more for no-missing the game on any difficulty. The rest are for playing story mode, using every character, etc.
+/- The scoring system is okay, but it's extremely simple. Enemies drop medals and you collect them. Collect 100 and their value increases, collect 200 and their value maxes out. Getting hit or letting them drop off screen does not reset their rank or anything, so just collect as much as you can for a high score.
+/- The game is pretty easy. Normal is an easy 1cc. Hard and Very Hard are more challenging, since you take more damage when hit (up to 50% of your lifebar) with thicker bullet patterns and faster moving bullets, but it's still not a very difficult game to clear. Your health also refills between each stage.
- Some randomness. The stage 5 boss in particular is complete bullshit. During his 4th phase, he has a few different attacks he can use, and he seems to choose them randomly. Here's the problem: he has this one laser attack that will immediately hit you as soon as it fires. You can't dodge it on reaction, so you have to be moving preemptively in order to avoid it. Very annoying.
- Lack of a proper 'enemy incoming' warning. Enemies can come from anywhere on the screen, even from multiple directions at once. So it can be really annoying when you accidentally back into one that just spawned behind you and lose 50% of your health. :|
- Terrible graphics. The models for the girls are okay I suppose, but everything else looks awful. Nearly every enemy is pure black, with white hexagons and some red blotches on them, and the backgrounds are dull and repetitive.
- Completely forgettable music. I probably couldn't identify a single song from this game, even after playing for as long as I have.
- Online leaderboards only track Normal mode.
- Can't save or download replays from the leaderboard.
I think that covers everything. That may seem like a negative review, but overall I think it's a pretty fun game and I like it quite a bit. I'm not sure I'd recommend it to everyone, but I'm glad I bought it. I'd give it a 7/10.
+ Character selection. There are 12 different girls you can select for your team, and each of them have their own abilities. Of course, some of them are [a lot] more powerful than the other, but it gives nice variety.
+ Bullet patterns, level design, and enemy variety is pretty good for the most part.
+ Pretty robust story mode. There are four preset teams you can play the story with. There's lots of dialog and all of it's fully voiced. This is probably awesome if you're a Strike Witches fan who can read Japanese. I guess.
+ Bosses are [mostly] good, but some of them last too long, since each boss has multiple phases. The only boss that I think kinda sucks is the one on stage 4, since half the time on Normal mode you can kill him without having to dodge anything.
+ Decent set of achievements. There are four skill-based achievements for 1cc'ing normal, hard, and very hard, and one more for no-missing the game on any difficulty. The rest are for playing story mode, using every character, etc.
+/- The scoring system is okay, but it's extremely simple. Enemies drop medals and you collect them. Collect 100 and their value increases, collect 200 and their value maxes out. Getting hit or letting them drop off screen does not reset their rank or anything, so just collect as much as you can for a high score.
+/- The game is pretty easy. Normal is an easy 1cc. Hard and Very Hard are more challenging, since you take more damage when hit (up to 50% of your lifebar) with thicker bullet patterns and faster moving bullets, but it's still not a very difficult game to clear. Your health also refills between each stage.
- Some randomness. The stage 5 boss in particular is complete bullshit. During his 4th phase, he has a few different attacks he can use, and he seems to choose them randomly. Here's the problem: he has this one laser attack that will immediately hit you as soon as it fires. You can't dodge it on reaction, so you have to be moving preemptively in order to avoid it. Very annoying.
- Lack of a proper 'enemy incoming' warning. Enemies can come from anywhere on the screen, even from multiple directions at once. So it can be really annoying when you accidentally back into one that just spawned behind you and lose 50% of your health. :|
- Terrible graphics. The models for the girls are okay I suppose, but everything else looks awful. Nearly every enemy is pure black, with white hexagons and some red blotches on them, and the backgrounds are dull and repetitive.
- Completely forgettable music. I probably couldn't identify a single song from this game, even after playing for as long as I have.
- Online leaderboards only track Normal mode.
- Can't save or download replays from the leaderboard.
I think that covers everything. That may seem like a negative review, but overall I think it's a pretty fun game and I like it quite a bit. I'm not sure I'd recommend it to everyone, but I'm glad I bought it. I'd give it a 7/10.
sadaiyappan
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What is the best PC schmup?
To Far Away Times
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Perfect Cherry Blossom.Sadaiyappan said:
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
So, my brother went CRAZY and bought me an Ipad 3G 64GB for Christmas.
I immediately thought about the new DDP and Esp for iOS.
Do you guys have any idea if those games run well on the iPad and if it's ideal to play those games on the pad?
Are there any other that I should have a look at?
I immediately thought about the new DDP and Esp for iOS.
Do you guys have any idea if those games run well on the iPad and if it's ideal to play those games on the pad?
Are there any other that I should have a look at?
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Anyone else checked out Vorpal on Xbox Indies? Really nice indie shmup reminiscent of the likes of Senko no Ronde in that it's a one-on-one fighter of sorts. Has a fantastic Trance soundtrack too. Well worth the 80 MS Points.
Siliconera have a trailer and info:
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/12/31/vorpal-brings-manga-art-to-shoot-em-up-form/
Siliconera have a trailer and info:
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/12/31/vorpal-brings-manga-art-to-shoot-em-up-form/
iconoclast
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Sadaiyappan said:
New answer: Crimzon Clover
I just reviewed A Space Shooter for 2 Bucks!. It's not bullet-hell so don't expect a difficult trip, but it was a pretty fun game despite the unfortunate saving bug.
Barkley's Justice
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60_gig_PS3 said:
woah woah woah...wtf is this??!!
Barkley's Justice
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JustAnotherOtaku said:
good looks. downloading now.
sixteen-bit
Member
Apparently Eshchatos is coming with ports of Judgement Silversword and Cardinal Sins.
http://gmstar.com/xb360/eschatos.html
http://gmstar.com/xb360/eschatos.html
