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Should I quit PC gaming?

Vieo

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"Quit" in the sense that I will no longer bother to upgrade my PC for the purpose of playing the latest games.

In light of many events that have happened over the last few recent years and a change in my playing habits, I've been contemplating heading back to consoles. Instead of going into details, I'll just get to the main points.


Arguments for:

1. I'm absolutely bored to tears with the FPS genre. Practically the only two FPS games I play any more are DOOM II and HALO for multiplayer (I would still be playing Half-life multiplayer if Valve didn't do away with the WON network). The last two FPS games I bought were DOOM 3 and Half-life 2 which, while were great games, I really didn't enjoy them too much because there were no real surprises in the gameplay.

2. I've discovered that I hate real-time strategy games. When I bought StarCraft, I played through it and then quit at the start of the Protoss campaign. I tried playing it again some years later, only to quit again at the same point. The same thing happened with WarCraft 3. When I first bought it, I played straight through up to the beginning of the Night Elf campaign, then I quit. I reinstalled it recently and played all the way through again only to end up quitting at the same spot. Then I realized I was only playing these games for the story/characters and not because I liked the gameplay.

3. The majority of my game time over the past two years have been spent on console emulators, console to PC ports(Tony Hawk, Silent Hill 2 - 4, HALO, etc.), MAME, and consoles(when I owned them). I bought a used GCN to play Metroid Prime, Ikaruga, and Resident Evil remake + RE4. I also bought a used PS2 to play Viewtiful Joe, Final Fantasy X, and MGS2. I sold both consoles promptly after beating all the games. The only reason I didn't keep them is because I usually have a habit of limiting myself to one platform so I can get the most out of it. At the time, PC was my main gaming platform.

4. I can literally count on my hand the games on my "must buy" list for at least the next four years. Oblivion, NWN2, Diablo 3, Baldur's Gate 3, and Fallout 3. I know my PC can handle Oblivion and NWN2, but in the event my PC won't be able to handle those other future games, I don't think they would justify building a new rig.


Arguments against:

1. As I mentioned in 4 above, there's still some games I'd really like to play, but I'm not really sure if it would be worth the hassle of upgrading should those couple of games require upgrades.

2. I have a love/hate relationship with MMORPGs. I like to play them off and on; usually two months in a row. Then I'll start hating the game for some reason, quit, and then come back to play for another two months, six months later.

3. I'm a fan of games based off of D&D and the Forgotten Realms. PCs are the king for these types of games.

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Though I started out on consoles(Atari 2600), I always, did a little PC gaming on the side. I only went PC-only a little bit before the end of the PSOne era because I became bored with consoles after playing them for so long. I thought I hated console gaming, but as it turns out, I just needed to take some time off from them to recharge my batteries.

While console gaming and PC gaming have done a bit of merging over the years, they're still two separate flavors. Since I jumped the gun too quick by quitting consoles assuming I would never look back, I've built an appetite for both flavors. Now I'm torn between two worlds and can't seem to choose between them.

Give me some advice!

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BTW, how much do you think my PC game collection would fetch on eBay? I figured if I did head back to consoles, I'd use them to fund my purchases.

Ultima VII - Complete (original large box version)
Ultima VII - Complete (thing big box version)
Ultima IX - Accension
The Ultima Collection (Akalabeth to Ultima VIII)
Ecstatica
Dragon Lore
The Elder Scrolls: Arena
The Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall
The Ultimate RPG Archives (interplay)
The Ultimate Wizardy Archives
Baldur's Gate 2 Collection
Baldur's Gate (original old version)
Baldur's Gate (newer version that includes expansion)
Silent Hill 2
Silent Hill 3
Silent Hill 4
DOOM 3
DOOM 3 - Resurrection
Gothic II: Gold Edition
GTA: San Andreas (DVD edition)
Half-life: Game of the Year Edition
Half-life: Platinum Pack
Diablo II
Diablo II - Lord of Desctruction
The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard
Unreal Tournament 2003
Magic Carpet 2
The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind
The Elder Scrolls - Tribunal
The Elder Scrolls - Bloodmoon
Half-life 2: Collector's Edition(not sure if sellable since STEAM e-mail linked)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Sim City 4: Deluxe Edition
Magic Carpet
Septerra Core
Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor
Soul Bringer
Crusader: No Remorse
Omikron: Nomad Soul
Return to Krondor
DOOM II
Gabriel Knight 3
King's Quest VI
Darius Gaiden
Spec Ops
Betrayal in Antara
The Sims 2 (DVD)
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 4
Quake III: Arena
Fallout 1
Fallout 2
An Elder Scrolls Legend: Battlespire
Unreal Tournament
Neverwinter Nights
Neverwinter Nights - Shadow of Undrentide
Neverwinter Nights - Hordes of the Underdark
Forgotten Realms Classics
King's Quest: Mask of Eternity
King's Quest V
Myst: 10th Anniversary DVD Edition
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
StarCraft
StarCraft - Brood War
WarCraft 3
HALO
 
Take a break for two or three years, build a new state of the art rig, and play those games that you missed.
 
Why must you choose one or the other? Limiting yourself to just one platform limits your choices of games.
 
Yeah, go ahead.

From the list you posted you seem like a RPG kind of guy.

The golden times of PC RPGS are over. You'll find all your favourite future PC RPG titles (Oblivion, Fallout 3, Bioshock etc.) on the 360. Dumbed down, yes, but way, way, way cheaper ($299 and you're set till 2010! No need to upgrade a single component. Bargain of the century!).

Ultima is dead, Baldur's Gate turned into mindless console crap (Dark Alliance)...

*sigh*

Those times will never come back:

Ultima%20Black%20Gate.jpg
 
Piepz said:
Don't tell me you haven't played F.E.A.R ... :(

edit: and BATTLE fuckin' FIELD 2 !?

Fear would have been a lot better if it had some real variety to it. I mean, if you played the demo, you've pretty much experienced the game. And it's short to boot. But it still deserves a play if you're a PC gamer.

As mentioned earlier, don't limit your gaming platforms. You'll regret it at some point if you do.
 
Pimpbaa said:
Why must you choose one or the other? Limiting yourself to just one platform limits your choices of games.

Limited funds. I've got other stuff to spend money on besides games. =P

When I have a console, I like to buy a TON of games for it. At one point I had like 70+ PSOne games, probably over 100 if I count in the ones I sold or gave away.

If I was trying to support two platforms like a console and a PC, that would mean I'd have less games overall.


Piepz said:
Don't tell me you haven't played F.E.A.R ... :(

edit: and BATTLE fuckin' FIELD 2 !?


I didn't try F.E.A.R., but what I played of Battlefield 2(demo from PC gaming mag), it was craptacular.
 
I quit PC gaming a few years ago, and I've been much happier.
The hassle is just gone. No more "Whoops, this driver won't let me play this game I just put $50 into!" or even spending time trying to crush these issues just to play a game.
I've still got a rig, and can play the occasional game once in a while, but it's usually so fruitless that I can't stand it. Game just randomly blacks out and is gone. No error messages. Just whoops, gone! And we tried playing some Doom II over the network and that became a damn hassle. I just can't stand the issues, and don't know why I bothered with them for so long.
 
(I would still be playing Half-life multiplayer if Valve didn't do away with the WON network).

Valve's released a program called "Steam" that's far superior to those old WON servers. You should look into it.
 
I quit PC gaming once adventure games died*


*Still will play any future installments in the Half-life series and any future Adventure games like Dreamfall.
 
RevenantKioku said:
I quit PC gaming a few years ago, and I've been much happier.
The hassle is just gone. No more "Whoops, this driver won't let me play this game I just put $50 into!" or even spending time trying to crush these issues just to play a game.
I've still got a rig, and can play the occasional game once in a while, but it's usually so fruitless that I can't stand it. Game just randomly blacks out and is gone. No error messages. Just whoops, gone! And we tried playing some Doom II over the network and that became a damn hassle. I just can't stand the issues, and don't know why I bothered with them for so long.

yea thank god for consoles so we dont have to experience any overheating issues, disk scratching, cds not reading, savegame bugs, multiplayer bugs, and the thing flat out breaking and being forced to buy a second console.....oh wait.........
 
Sure, don't upgrade pre-emptively--there's really no point. Wait until some must-play games come out, and upgrade then if you have to.
 
Zilch said:
Valve's released a program called "Steam" that's far superior to those old WON servers. You should look into it.


There's another thing I forgot to mention. I'm still on 56K! (I refuse to cough out $50 for optimum online. It's DSL, which is not available in my area, or nothing!). I tried playing Half-life 2 on STEAM, but my ping was through the roof.

Back on WON, I was pulling down a 170 - 180 ping and I was still able to hold my own against players of faster connections unless they had an aimbot or had uber skills. :lol
 
"Valve's released a program called "Steam" that's far superior to those old WON servers. You should look into it."

Steam (the service) is nice. Steam (The program) is total shit.
 
PC gaming - at least new games - fell by the wayside for me the minute a decent graphics card that let me at least run most games mediumly well started costing over $250. Seriously, I look at these cards that are expensive enough that I could buy two PS3's with their cost and wonder how much longer the business of retail high-end GPU sales can sustain itself.

I still play alot of my older stuff that my 9500 Pro can plow through, but as for picking up newer stuff, forget about it.
 
Lukkas said:
yea thank god for consoles so we dont have to experience any overheating issues, disk scratching, cds not reading, savegame bugs, multiplayer bugs, and the thing flat out breaking and being forced to buy a second console.....oh wait.........
Yeah, cause that's as common as technical PC issues .. and disk scratching/CDs not reading and bugs ... could never happen on a PC.
 
If you don't feel like upgrading your machine, don't. Pretty simple approach.

I really don't upgrade until there's something I absolutely need. HL2 was the latest upgrade point for me; prior to that I was using a P3 600, and to be honest, there were plenty of games that ran on it to keep me busy. I'm glad I upgraded, certainly, and I plan on doing it again in the future, but it will be a cheap upgrade and I won't be playing anything beefy on release.

Sure, don't upgrade pre-emptively--there's really no point. Wait until some must-play games come out, and upgrade then if you have to.

Or I could've just said this.
 
I'm playing less and less on my PC these days as well. I use to love FPS, but no so much any more, although there are still occasionally ones that catch my attention. I doubt I'll ever really give up PC gaming altogether, but I've shifted more towards consoles as well.

I still play RPG's on the PC, and there are still some good ones coming, although far too many of them are of the MMORPG variety. Still Dragon Age, NWN2, and Hellgate look promising.

Besides, would you want to miss out on Duke Nukem Forever? :D
 
The only games I still play on PC (Mac, actually) are complicated strategy games like Europa Universalis II or Combat Mission II, for which consoles could never provide a sufficient interface. Consoles are good enough for me in all other fields--it helps that I have no desire whatsoever to play FPSs and RTSs, since like the OP I've seen enough of those to last me the rest of my life. MMORPGs don't interest me, either.
 
I'm not much of a PC gamer. I only upgrade once every four years and buy a decent vidcard with the upgrade. Whatever doesn't play on that, fuck it. It'll wait until the next upgrade in four years if I'm still interested in playing it. I'm due for an upgrade this year, actually.
 
We have pretty similar tastes. There was a time when I felt compelled to keep upgrading and benchmarking, but not anymore. If you go to a conventional 3 year upgrade cycle, you can still play pretty much everything besides FPS games, which you said you were getting bored with anyway.

I have a PC that I haven't touched (for upgrade purposes) since I got it in 2003, and I can still play pretty much everything I want to if I keep the detail low. Once you quit keeping up with the news on bleeding edge tech, you won't care how many frames per second you're getting on the latest id game.
 
PC Gaming is a great value. You just have to buy smart. Never pay more than 200 dollars for a graphics card, most titles are 20 dollars or less within a year. Show some patience.

If you find a title you like (BF2, WOW, NWN, CIV 4, X COM, Diablos) you can literally play it every night, for a year, without getting bored. You can't do that with 95% of the console games that come out.

There is always a constant stream of free demo's, game trials, java games, on-line communities (Scrabble, card games, poker, Risk, Yahoo games, MSN, etc etc), free Korean MMORPGS (some are very good), on and on. If you are diligent, you could game on a PC all year and never have to spend a dime (or be a pirate). Alot of that you will need broadband to fully enjoy, to be honest. So maybe you aren't made for PC gaming.
 
Lukkas said:
yea thank god for consoles so we dont have to experience any overheating issues, disk scratching, cds not reading, savegame bugs, multiplayer bugs, and the thing flat out breaking and being forced to buy a second console.....oh wait.........

Dude, that's not even a comparison. First of all, many of those issues can happen with a PC just as well. Secondly, most of those issues are the cause of a broken unit. So just trade it in or pick one up without any issues (bigger change sometime after launch) and you are set for 5+ years.

Me? I used to play PC as well. I started out on consoles, gave up on them when the PS1/N64 arrived (I did want one, but PC started drawing me in by then) and came back to consoles when the NGC and Xbox arrived. After that I started to play less and less on PC simply because most of it's games don't really appeal to me that much anymore. Just like you I'm getting tired of the flood of FPS games. Same goes for RTS, though I do like that genre in some way, unlike you.

I'd have to agree with Bebpo in that PC gaming lost all it's magic for me as soon as the adventuregenre died (together with the strong decline of the RPG genre after greatness like Planescape and BG2). Only PC game I play nowadays is WoW, mostly because I like the world design, atmosphere and lore. Sometimes (but that's very rare) I do some multiplayer on LANs. That can be really fun, but console multiplayer is vastly growing toward a comparable level, so it's getting less and less appealing.

Bioware and Blizzard are about the only PC developers left which still make me go back to the platform every now and then. Bioware is slowly stepping more towards consoles as of late too though, so I don't know how long PC gaming will last for me. Another reason for me to not care about upgrading much anymore, is because everything gets so ridiciously expensive. Especially with the advent of dualcore, 64-bit, 512MB GPU's, PCIe, DirectX 10 and PPU's. It's ridicilous. I'd take a next-gen console over that anyday. It could do all the things I mentioned on the PC front, except it's price is much lower and the game line-up appeals to me much, much more.
 
Chairman Yang said:
Sure, don't upgrade pre-emptively--there's really no point. Wait until some must-play games come out, and upgrade then if you have to.

Tain said:
If you don't feel like upgrading your machine, don't. Pretty simple approach.

I really don't upgrade until there's something I absolutely need. HL2 was the latest upgrade point for me; prior to that I was using a P3 600, and to be honest, there were plenty of games that ran on it to keep me busy. I'm glad I upgraded, certainly, and I plan on doing it again in the future, but it will be a cheap upgrade and I won't be playing anything beefy on release.

Guileless said:
We have pretty similar tastes. There was a time when I felt compelled to keep upgrading and benchmarking, but not anymore. If you go to a conventional 3 year upgrade cycle, you can still play pretty much everything besides FPS games, which you said you were getting bored with anyway.

I have a PC that I haven't touched (for upgrade purposes) since I got it in 2003, and I can still play pretty much everything I want to if I keep the detail low. Once you quit keeping up with the news on bleeding edge tech, you won't care how many frames per second you're getting on the latest id game.


Thanks for the replies. I'll probably just follow this strategy. That's more like what I was doing before I started getting serious about PC gaming. If my computer couldn't run it, I didn't bother with it.
 
I stopped being an "upgrader" on PC machines long ago. Trying to always keep up with the lastest is a money-pit and more sadly for me, It just wasn't worth it to play to small percentage of games that actually took advantage of it. I have a fairly old PC and play the occasional PC stategy or such but the mass bulk of my gaming is done on consoles.


As I got older my tastes changed anyway. It's more about having a great game that plays well than have the latest graphics. The top end PC games somtimes forget that.
 
i just updated my pc (A64 4000, 2 gigs ram, and 7800) and I think thats gonna be it for my for 3 years (maybe add in another 7800 later on when they go below 200) honestly nothing coming up (other than nwn2, oblivion, and fallout 3) interests me and battlefield2 for me didnt have the same impact I guess for most because I spent 2 years playing desert combat.
 
Lukkas said:
yea thank god for consoles so we dont have to experience any overheating issues, disk scratching, cds not reading, savegame bugs, multiplayer bugs, and the thing flat out breaking and being forced to buy a second console.....oh wait.........

I'm much happier with obvious problems like DISC AM SCRATCHED or PS2 AM DRE than dicking around with my PC's settings for three hours to find that a game won't play because my sound card's driver's conflicted with something.
 
I quit around the time RE4 came out and I don't regret it a bit. Enough of upgrading and tuning, just playing games now - on machines dedicated to gaming.
But the day I have enough money for all consoles + high-end pc, I'll eventually go back.
 
I think you'd be better off seeing a shrink to get rid of that pesky OCD style condition that prevents you from, oh I don't know, owning a PS2 and a PC at the same time.
 
I have completely missed out on the PC gaming scene (I finished Cave Story recently, and that was the first computer game I'd finished in ~15 years) but I don't really regret it. I've played loads of great games on consoles, and agree with many of the reasons already mentioned by Kioku and others.

I know I have missed some great games over the years (Half-Lifes, Diablos, AoEs, etc.) but I've been so busy with consoles it hasn't bothered me. In fact, I have only owned a computer for the past 2 years.

If I ever do catch up with console games I want to play, I might check out some of those older PC games. But for the time being, I've got more than I can handle as it is.

I also rarely play multiplayer games, so that's a factor in itself.
 
If you are a huge rpg fan like me it is like tre said, a HUGE MISTAKE.

Gothic 3
Divine Divinity 2(for the ultima fan, get the original if you can, but not the half sequel "beyond divinity")
Hellgate: London
HOMMV


BTW what are you willing to part with the ultiumate wizardry archives for?
 
Vieo said:
There's another thing I forgot to mention. I'm still on 56K! (I refuse to cough out $50 for optimum online. It's DSL, which is not available in my area, or nothing!). I tried playing Half-life 2 on STEAM, but my ping was through the roof.

Back on WON, I was pulling down a 170 - 180 ping and I was still able to hold my own against players of faster connections unless they had an aimbot or had uber skills. :lol

wow. i thought 56k was just an urban myth. if you're not playing competitively online i can see why you wouldn't want to play war3.
 
I quit last year. Gets old, and the premium needed to stomp w/ the big dawgs these days (64bit CPU, PCI-E, $500 grfx card etc.) just makes it a tremendous waste of money in the long run.
 
For awhile I took a massive shift away from consoles and focused more on PC's. PC haters will complain about the hardware costs since a vid card costs about as much as a console. but like someone else mentioned, PC games tend to have a longer shelf life due to content updates and just more versatility and customization. I have a fairly powerful PC with broadband so gaming on XBL has never impressed me. (sorry but Halo 2 gets eaten alive by the best PC FPS multiplayer experiences IMO). About the only reason I even have to play XBL is to play Madden/Live which are usually superior on console. I've been playing CS off and on since beta 5 so thats about 6 years. I've played BF2 since around August and love it and don't think I'll stop anytime soon, and I've played WoW off and on for a little over a year. In the past year I've probably bought around 20 console games, so in the end it all balances out

my point? well I don't really have one. I think you can be cost effective with either consoles or pc. I of course am not since I invest heavily in both. If I burn out on one, I switch my focus to the other. Gaming in general has enough niches that I can usually find something to hold my interest
 
Vieo said:
"Quit" in the sense that I will no longer bother to upgrade my PC for the purpose of playing the latest games.

In light of many events that have happened over the last few recent years and a change in my playing habits, I've been contemplating heading back to consoles. Instead of going into details, I'll just get to the main points.


Arguments for:

1. I'm absolutely bored to tears with the FPS genre. Practically the only two FPS games I play any more are DOOM II and HALO for multiplayer (I would still be playing Half-life multiplayer if Valve didn't do away with the WON network). The last two FPS games I bought were DOOM 3 and Half-life 2 which, while were great games, I really didn't enjoy them too much because there were no real surprises in the gameplay.

2. I've discovered that I hate real-time strategy games. When I bought StarCraft, I played through it and then quit at the start of the Protoss campaign. I tried playing it again some years later, only to quit again at the same point. The same thing happened with WarCraft 3. When I first bought it, I played straight through up to the beginning of the Night Elf campaign, then I quit. I reinstalled it recently and played all the way through again only to end up quitting at the same spot. Then I realized I was only playing these games for the story/characters and not because I liked the gameplay.

3. The majority of my game time over the past two years have been spent on console emulators, console to PC ports(Tony Hawk, Silent Hill 2 - 4, HALO, etc.), MAME, and consoles(when I owned them). I bought a used GCN to play Metroid Prime, Ikaruga, and Resident Evil remake + RE4. I also bought a used PS2 to play Viewtiful Joe, Final Fantasy X, and MGS2. I sold both consoles promptly after beating all the games. The only reason I didn't keep them is because I usually have a habit of limiting myself to one platform so I can get the most out of it. At the time, PC was my main gaming platform.

4. I can literally count on my hand the games on my "must buy" list for at least the next four years. Oblivion, NWN2, Diablo 3, Baldur's Gate 3, and Fallout 3. I know my PC can handle Oblivion and NWN2, but in the event my PC won't be able to handle those other future games, I don't think they would justify building a new rig.


Arguments against:

1. As I mentioned in 4 above, there's still some games I'd really like to play, but I'm not really sure if it would be worth the hassle of upgrading should those couple of games require upgrades.

2. I have a love/hate relationship with MMORPGs. I like to play them off and on; usually two months in a row. Then I'll start hating the game for some reason, quit, and then come back to play for another two months, six months later.

3. I'm a fan of games based off of D&D and the Forgotten Realms. PCs are the king for these types of games.

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Though I started out on consoles(Atari 2600), I always, did a little PC gaming on the side. I only went PC-only a little bit before the end of the PSOne era because I became bored with consoles after playing them for so long. I thought I hated console gaming, but as it turns out, I just needed to take some time off from them to recharge my batteries.

While console gaming and PC gaming have done a bit of merging over the years, they're still two separate flavors. Since I jumped the gun too quick by quitting consoles assuming I would never look back, I've built an appetite for both flavors. Now I'm torn between two worlds and can't seem to choose between them.

Give me some advice!

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BTW, how much do you think my PC game collection would fetch on eBay? I figured if I did head back to consoles, I'd use them to fund my purchases.

Ultima VII - Complete (original large box version)
Ultima VII - Complete (thing big box version)
Ultima IX - Accension
The Ultima Collection (Akalabeth to Ultima VIII)
Ecstatica
Dragon Lore
The Elder Scrolls: Arena
The Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall
The Ultimate RPG Archives (interplay)
The Ultimate Wizardy Archives
Baldur's Gate 2 Collection
Baldur's Gate (original old version)
Baldur's Gate (newer version that includes expansion)
Silent Hill 2
Silent Hill 3
Silent Hill 4
DOOM 3
DOOM 3 - Resurrection
Gothic II: Gold Edition
GTA: San Andreas (DVD edition)
Half-life: Game of the Year Edition
Half-life: Platinum Pack
Diablo II
Diablo II - Lord of Desctruction
The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard
Unreal Tournament 2003
Magic Carpet 2
The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind
The Elder Scrolls - Tribunal
The Elder Scrolls - Bloodmoon
Half-life 2: Collector's Edition(not sure if sellable since STEAM e-mail linked)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Sim City 4: Deluxe Edition
Magic Carpet
Septerra Core
Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor
Soul Bringer
Crusader: No Remorse
Omikron: Nomad Soul
Return to Krondor
DOOM II
Gabriel Knight 3
King's Quest VI
Darius Gaiden
Spec Ops
Betrayal in Antara
The Sims 2 (DVD)
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 4
Quake III: Arena
Fallout 1
Fallout 2
An Elder Scrolls Legend: Battlespire
Unreal Tournament
Neverwinter Nights
Neverwinter Nights - Shadow of Undrentide
Neverwinter Nights - Hordes of the Underdark
Forgotten Realms Classics
King's Quest: Mask of Eternity
King's Quest V
Myst: 10th Anniversary DVD Edition
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
StarCraft
StarCraft - Brood War
WarCraft 3
HALO


Welcome my friend. Not only you'll be able to try different genres of games maybe but you'll realise how full your wallet will be!
 
DaCocoBrova said:
I quit last year. Gets old, and the premium needed to stomp w/ the big dawgs these days (64bit CPU, PCI-E, $500 grfx card etc.) just makes it a tremendous waste of money in the long run.

PC gaming is expensive, but it's not a waste of money if you enjoy it. Video games in general are a waste of time and money, but that's hardly the point when you enjoy it as a hobby.
 
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