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[Sanjuro]

lol remember when they were trying to watch the boogleg Godfather DVDs?

They should have just used HBOGo!

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Now that I think about it, Talia Shire was also terrible.

And they

Spoiler

killed Tom Hagen in between movies!

For shame.

 

[JDSN]

Sophia and Smirk Garcia aside the acting is top notch. It feels a bit like a victory lap/epilogue but I think this is Michael Corleone´s at its most interesting.

 

[Spaghetti]

no

the first and second are perfect together and the third ruins the dynamic and was more or less just a cash grab for francis ford coppola to get past the funding issues that had plagued him since apocaylpse now

 

[Sanjuro]

Have we found the exact moment where Pacino evolved into his second form?

 

[Blader]

It actually is a bad movie. The acting sucks, Pacino is well into his parody phase by this point, and the whole script is just ill-conceived. It's not worth watching on its own merits and especially not as part of the trilogy.

Now that I think about it, Talia Shire was also terrible.

She was bad in all three though.

Have we found the exact moment where Pacino evolved into his second form?

Scarface

 

[FStop7]

The hate for Part 3 is mostly exaggerated. It's not a bad movie, but it doesn't compare to the other 2.

It's a terrible movie even if you don't compare it to its predecessors. It's badly written, directed and acted. It was a cynical attempt by Coppola to cash in due to his own financial troubles (he's admitted as much) and a vehicle to push yet another one of his relatives into stardom.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Have we found the exact moment where Pacino evolved into his second form?

There's Pre-Scarface Pacino and Post-Scarface Pacino

Kinda like Pre-Crisis Superman/post-Crisis Superman

 

[Sanjuro]

Scarface

There's Pre-Scarface Pacino and Post-Scarface Pacino

Kinda like Pre-Crisis Superman/post-Crisis Superman

I really didn't want to believe that. Even Scarface, he isn't 90s Pacino quite yet. I haven't seen much of his filmography in between, yet again there isn't much notable.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Dick Tracey is an acceptable Pacino marking point as well

LITERALLY a cartoon character in that one

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

She was bad in all three though.

No, she was fine in the first two. She excelled in awfulness in the third one though, and they turned her into something completely different. One could say it's due to aging, or whatever, but it was still way off. Playing Godmother was not in her. It was was like, we don't have Tom, so we need to compensate.

 

[bud]

There's Pre-Scarface Pacino and Post-Scarface Pacino

Kinda like Pre-Crisis Superman/post-Crisis Superman

i don't remember any overacting in the insider. that was actually a rather restrained performance, was it not?

not entirely sure about sea of love, but i don't think he was overacting there either.

 

[FStop7]

No, she was fine in the first two. She excelled in awfulness in the third one though, and they turned her into something completely different. One could say it's due to aging, or whatever, but it was still way off. Playing Godmother was not in her. It was was like, we don't have Tom, so we need to compensate.

Yeah, Talia Shire's character transformation in 3 was one of the worst written parts of the script.

 

[bud]

i had no idea tom hagen died between ii and iii, haha.

 

[gutter_trash]

Now that I think about it, Talia Shire was also terrible.

And they

Spoiler

killed Tom Hagen in between movies!

For shame.

According to Coppola's audio commentary on the film in The Godfather DVD Collection, Robert Duvall refused to take part unless he was paid a salary comparable to Pacino's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Godfather_Part_III#Pre-production

 

[ViewtifulJC]

i don't remember any overacting in the insider. that was actually a rather restrained performance, was it not?

not entirely sure about sea of love, but i don't think he was overacting there either.

No, The Insider is a great film and it has one of my favorite Pacino performances(and Russell Crowe's best, for what thats worth).

He doesn't go over the top ALL the time, but there's the Pacino from Scent of a Woman/The Devil's Advocate/Any Given Sunday and there's the one from the Godfather I/II/Serpico/Dog Day Afternoon and they seem to be two completely different people. Like, he's developed an Al Pacino persona after awhile and he slips into pretty often.

 

[Draconian]

i had no idea tom hagen died between ii and iii, haha.

I think the original plan was for him to be in III, but financial negotiations with Robert Duvall broke down.

 

[The Albatross]

My biggest complaint with Part 3 is that Pacino is off character during this one and doesn't seem to be the same person as from Part 2

This.

In Godfather 3, Al Pacino plays "Typical Al Pacino Character" not Michael Corleone. It's very disappointing.

 

[bud]

when i hear him calling spacey a "stupid fucking cunt" in glengarry glen ross, i'm overcome by a sense of pleasure.

 

[dofry]

Going to throw my two cents here and say, stop while you are still ahead.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

when i hear him calling spacey a "stupid fucking cunt" in glengarry glen ross, i'm overcome by a sense of pleasure.

"you're fucking shit" has always been my favorite line reading there

 

[jett]

It's not that bad, it's just unnecessary. It doesn't matter if you watch it or not.

Sofia Coppola is one of the worst actresses of all-time though and is by far the largest source of the shittines contained in the movie.

 

[Can Crusher]

Of course, it's still a better movie than most.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

It's a terrible movie even if you don't compare it to its predecessors. It's badly written, directed and acted. It was a cynical attempt by Coppola to cash in due to his own financial troubles (he's admitted as much) and a vehicle to push yet another one of his relatives into stardom.

Imagine if we could have had Nic Cage as Vincent instead of Garcia.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

As bad as Sophia was, I don't think Winona would have been any better.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

As bad as Sophia was, I don't think Winona would have been any better.

Yeah, I've always thought this too.

 

[bud]

idris should've gotten garcia's part.
or fassbender.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

idris should've gotten garcia's part.
or fassbender.

Cranston.

 

[bud]

Cranston.

i was watching trading places the other day, and i found out that gus fring was one of the guys in jail together with eddie.

i feel compelled to share this information this with you, charles.

 

[FStop7]

No actor could have salvaged that part. One of the movie's central plot lines revolved around cousinfucking... seriously.

 

[TheOohChild]

I don't know, all I can really remember from that movie is Andy Garcia banging his cousin and Al Pacino with gray hair

 

[bud]

No actor could have salvaged that part. One of the movie's central plot lines revolved around cousinfucking... seriously.

imagine a world where, say, this woman is your cousin:

would you not at least consider the possibility

 

[Blader]

i don't remember any overacting in the insider. that was actually a rather restrained performance, was it not?

not entirely sure about sea of love, but i don't think he was overacting there either.

No, The Insider was pretty fantastic, but kinda the exception to the rule as far as post-Scarface Pacino goes.

 

[3rdman]

The hate for Part 3 is mostly exaggerated. It's not a bad movie, but it doesn't compare to the other 2.

This.

 

[yellow submarine]

There's Pre-Scarface Pacino and Post-Scarface Pacino

Kinda like Pre-Crisis Superman/post-Crisis Superman

I know that his "Heat" character was full-Pacino, but it actually worked somehow in that movie. Michael Mann is a genius, that's for sure.

 

[Bluekaveli]

I've enjoyed the third one so many times. It's hard for me to watch because everything is coming together and what not. It would be cool if they went back and did a proper one that actually had thought though.

I think you should watch it and enjoy it.


LOL at people still saying TDKR isn't good as TDK.

 

[The Return of]

I have tried to watch Godfather 2 over 10 times and have still not finished it

 

[gutter_trash]

I have tried to watch Godfather 2 over 10 times and have still not finished it

How do you say Banana Daiquiri?

 

[Discotheque]

I have tried to watch Godfather 2 over 10 times and have still not finished it

damn bruh that sucks. ending is so good.

and the ending for 3 is quite good too but it's the only decent thing about the movie.

 

[Marvie_3]

Yes. Just know that's it's nowhere near as good as the first 2.

 

[YoungHav]

I remember liking baby boy Garcia in this and saw the potential in a proper Godfather 4 (or his own spin-off). This movie also gave us Raekwon's Immobilarity.

 

[PhoenixDark]

It's bad, I haven't been able to finish it. Bad script and multiple seems that seem straight out of a generic mob flick. The helicopter scene is like the icing on a bloated, over the top cake.

IIRC the original idea was for it to be Michael v Tom, with Michael's son playing a major role as a US senator.

 

[Herpes Reasons]

dont watch 3, it destroys everything you love about I & II

 

[hidys]

It's the worst in the trilogy but it is very good. You should watch it.