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Skins Series 7 |OT| Fire, Rise and Pure
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Can't really see it going any other way. Effy's in jail, Naomi's dead, and Emily's probably going to be an emotional wreck for a long time.
Kind of a punch to the gut after the relatively upbeat S4 ending with the whole gang in Freddie's shed
I thought S4 ended with Cook fighting that dude who killed Freddie?
Leona Lewis
Banned
Yeah, that cliffhanger was the final shot. While he was off looking for Freddie, everyone was in the shed drinking and partying with his sister.
And (in one of the most frustrating retcons ever) Naomi suddenly came in to apologize to Emily and profess that she's loved her since she was 12 or some shit. Even though everything up to that point signaled that Emily was actually the one harboring the forbidden crush, including the fantastic S3 "Naomi/Emily" episode.
Just terrible.
I may have to rewatch it, I don't remember that finale too well....I just remember S4 left me in a real bad mood. Actually, maybe I shouldn't rewatch.
The ending of Gen 2 never made much sense. I wonder of they planned to continue the series another season?
The Cook episodes is going to cover some of the Gen 2 ending, apparently.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Eh, "Fire" was pretty good. Watching both episodes back to back as a sort of "film" was definitely the right way to go. I'll be doing the same for "Pure" and "Rise".
I thought that it was interesting that the two episodes of "Fire" worked as a sort of microcosm of the show itself. Episode 1 (and seasons 1, 3, and 5) was much lighter and happier than episode 2 (and seasons 2, 4, and 6) which was pretty much the typical 'Skins' misery porn with everything going to hell followed by a sort of upbeat ending. Also, someone died in episode 2 (well, Naomi is going to die, but it doesn't actually happen on screen) which keeps with the tradition of killing someone off in the final season (Chris in 2, Freddie in 4, Grace in 6). I hope "Pure" and "Rise" do their own thing, however.
Other thoughts:
Naomi - "I have cancer, I'm dying, Emily will be sad, etc. etc. sad stuff"
Effy - "Stop talking like a dick!"
I literally laughed out loud when she said that. oh my god
And of course they'd end these character's storylines by having Naomi die, Emily wallowing in misery, and Effy going to jail. lol skins
Also, Effy just had to do coke one more time:
I was a bit disappointed that they didn't make a new remix of the 'Skins' theme song. I was really looking forward to hearing what they'd do to it this time.
I thought heard a bit of a jingle at the beginning of the first episode, but it didn't really sound like the theme to me so I sort of didn't register it. Maybe someone will put the bit on youtube so I can listen to it again.
Hulu had all the seasons of it available online for free, and they aired new episodes the day after they aired in the UK, starting with season 5. Netflix acquired the rights though and now Hulu doesn't have it anymore. :/
Um, what?
I didn't think so either. It definitely felt like something new - something a little more grown up. I dug it. I really enjoyed seeing Effy as a workaholic, rejecting Naomi's partying lifestyle in favor of her boring job. That was a nice little twist.
I thought so too. Effy's developments felt true to her character. I felt that they really put a lot of thought into what/who an adult Effy would turn out to be.
Yeah, the plotting in the first episode was very shaky. I didn't buy for a second that she could learn all of that in just one day. Especially when all the info was drawn in chalk on the top of a roof.
And finally, that ending shot was just perfect.
I thought that it was interesting that the two episodes of "Fire" worked as a sort of microcosm of the show itself. Episode 1 (and seasons 1, 3, and 5) was much lighter and happier than episode 2 (and seasons 2, 4, and 6) which was pretty much the typical 'Skins' misery porn with everything going to hell followed by a sort of upbeat ending. Also, someone died in episode 2 (well, Naomi is going to die, but it doesn't actually happen on screen) which keeps with the tradition of killing someone off in the final season (Chris in 2, Freddie in 4, Grace in 6). I hope "Pure" and "Rise" do their own thing, however.
Other thoughts:
Naomi - "I have cancer, I'm dying, Emily will be sad, etc. etc. sad stuff"
Effy - "Stop talking like a dick!"
I literally laughed out loud when she said that. oh my god
And of course they'd end these character's storylines by having Naomi die, Emily wallowing in misery, and Effy going to jail. lol skins
Also, Effy just had to do coke one more time:
I was a bit disappointed that they didn't make a new remix of the 'Skins' theme song. I was really looking forward to hearing what they'd do to it this time.
I thought heard a bit of a jingle at the beginning of the first episode, but it didn't really sound like the theme to me so I sort of didn't register it. Maybe someone will put the bit on youtube so I can listen to it again.
Hulu had all the seasons of it available online for free, and they aired new episodes the day after they aired in the UK, starting with season 5. Netflix acquired the rights though and now Hulu doesn't have it anymore. :/
Um, what?
I didn't think so either. It definitely felt like something new - something a little more grown up. I dug it. I really enjoyed seeing Effy as a workaholic, rejecting Naomi's partying lifestyle in favor of her boring job. That was a nice little twist.
I thought so too. Effy's developments felt true to her character. I felt that they really put a lot of thought into what/who an adult Effy would turn out to be.
Yeah, the plotting in the first episode was very shaky. I didn't buy for a second that she could learn all of that in just one day. Especially when all the info was drawn in chalk on the top of a roof.
And finally, that ending shot was just perfect.
Can't really see it going any other way. Effy's in jail, Naomi's dead, and Emily's probably going to be an emotional wreck for a long time.
Kind of a punch to the gut after the relatively upbeat S4 ending with the whole gang in Freddie's shed
lol, so true. So is there a way to watch this live in the US?
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Live? Nope. iTunes should have it up soon though.
Leona Lewis
Banned
Erm, some notes:
- Creeper stalker guy is creepy. "You're beautiful, and you don't even know it" cements his eternal virgin status
- Can't spell his name for the life of me, but buff short Greek dude has the most symmetrical face I've ever seen. He looks like a sculpture and I'd have fucked him too if I were Cassie. He's an even bigger simp than Jacob, though. Must be exhausting going through life with an endless series of men prostrating themselves before you, huh?
- We've already had two stalking storylines (first with Sketch and Maxxie, then with Sophia and Naomi). It's just tired.
- The main character of this episode could've been anyone. The episode didn't showcase any part of Cassie's personality that made her so endearing (and stalkable) in the first place. It's like they drained all of Cassie's charm and made a grotesque cocktail with it, then used it to inject Effy with a personality booster shot to make her an interesting character. Where is my "Wow" and "Cool"? :-(
- Creeper stalker guy is creepy. "You're beautiful, and you don't even know it" cements his eternal virgin status
- Can't spell his name for the life of me, but buff short Greek dude has the most symmetrical face I've ever seen. He looks like a sculpture and I'd have fucked him too if I were Cassie. He's an even bigger simp than Jacob, though. Must be exhausting going through life with an endless series of men prostrating themselves before you, huh?
- We've already had two stalking storylines (first with Sketch and Maxxie, then with Sophia and Naomi). It's just tired.
- The main character of this episode could've been anyone. The episode didn't showcase any part of Cassie's personality that made her so endearing (and stalkable) in the first place. It's like they drained all of Cassie's charm and made a grotesque cocktail with it, then used it to inject Effy with a personality booster shot to make her an interesting character. Where is my "Wow" and "Cool"? :-(
Completely forgot about this.
I enjoyed it. Very slow and very sad Cassie. It's fitting and very character specific that she's working at a diner, the place where she can hate herself the most. Her lowest moments have always been associated with food. And that creepy little dude is the perfect place to deepen her self loathing.
I thought it was fitting that there was no "Wow" and "Cool." The only time we really see this Cassie playing pretend is when she has her headphones on. She's much closer to series 2 Cassie than series 1.
I enjoyed it. Very slow and very sad Cassie. It's fitting and very character specific that she's working at a diner, the place where she can hate herself the most. Her lowest moments have always been associated with food. And that creepy little dude is the perfect place to deepen her self loathing.
I thought it was fitting that there was no "Wow" and "Cool." The only time we really see this Cassie playing pretend is when she has her headphones on. She's much closer to series 2 Cassie than series 1.
Leona Lewis
Banned
Not available in the US. It's for UK viewers only.
Oh, nevermind then.
I finished the episode. You're right, it seems that they took everything likable about Cassie and put it into Effy.
I'm just waiting for Cook's at this point, to find out what happened with Freddie;s killer.
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NinjaFridge
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Why couldnt they make Cassie have a happy life, she deserves so much more
Also fucking boo to my mate that told me she got raped in this ep, was expecting the worst all the way through
They did mention that she went travelling with someone and I assume that means Sid. I was happy to hear that but annoyed that it's over.
Matt_
World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
That was obviously put in to bait fans. Such a non answer to an important question
I choose to believe they got together
Schrade
Member
If anyone wants to watch the current skins episodes you can just install Media Hint for Firefox (I think there's a Chrome version too if you like Chrome) and then go to the Channel 4 web site.
Media Hint:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-hint/
Skins on Channel 4:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/skins/4od
It only works for the current shows, though. The archived ones require a sign in.
Media Hint:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-hint/
Skins on Channel 4:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/skins/4od
It only works for the current shows, though. The archived ones require a sign in.
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NinjaFridge
Unconfirmed Member
Meh.
Still a Cassie & Sid 'shipper.
Still a Cassie & Sid 'shipper.
Leona Lewis
Banned
I dunno, it was just whatever for me. Hard for me to relate to someone just blindly ambling through life I suppose.
Cook's episode looked suitably dramatic from the preview. Hope it adds some much-needed spice to this (so far) tepid dish. Fire (Part 2) is really the only bright spot, but I think the last two episodes will surprise me.
Cook's episode looked suitably dramatic from the preview. Hope it adds some much-needed spice to this (so far) tepid dish. Fire (Part 2) is really the only bright spot, but I think the last two episodes will surprise me.
Vivalaraza
Member
Just watched Fire.
Liked it, as you guys have said if was flawed in typical Skins ways but I felt like Effy's character was far more comfortable in itself.
Think Cook's episodes will be where the real fun is at.
Liked it, as you guys have said if was flawed in typical Skins ways but I felt like Effy's character was far more comfortable in itself.
Think Cook's episodes will be where the real fun is at.
dead souls
Member
My thoughts exactly.
ThreeSixty
December 16, 2009. 4:00 AM. THE LIGHT FIELD is the force. The mind. That guides. Controls.
Just finished watching Pure. I felt like I made a mistake with Fire by watching it as it aired so I saved both of Cassie's episodes to watch them back to back as a "film". Kind of disappointed to be honest. Preferred Fire. It just felt like nothing really of note happened. I did love the ambient and atmospheric scenes that Skins is known for and it was a joy to see Cassie again. It just kind of felt anti-climactic. It was the first time in a while where I've been watching Skins and looking at the clock, waiting for it to end.
Just not enough drama and action. I was waiting for it to become captivating and interesting but it never really happened. I will say that I preferred Part 2 over 1. To be honest though the most excited I got was actually during the preview for Skins Rise at the end of Part 2. Cook's episode looks insane. I have a feeling Skins Rise will probably be the highlight of the trilogy. Overall I enjoyed Fire but was let down by Pure. I'm really hoping that Rise is as amazing as the preview indicates and Skins goes out on a high note.
Skins Fire? Good, engaging television. Skins Pure? A let down.
Just not enough drama and action. I was waiting for it to become captivating and interesting but it never really happened. I will say that I preferred Part 2 over 1. To be honest though the most excited I got was actually during the preview for Skins Rise at the end of Part 2. Cook's episode looks insane. I have a feeling Skins Rise will probably be the highlight of the trilogy. Overall I enjoyed Fire but was let down by Pure. I'm really hoping that Rise is as amazing as the preview indicates and Skins goes out on a high note.
Skins Fire? Good, engaging television. Skins Pure? A let down.
AlphaDragoon
Member
Liked Fire, "grownup" Effy really was an interesting thing to see.
Pure thus far (haven't watched the second part) is kinda odd, but it has my Cassie and that awesome music so okay.
I wish they could have gotten more of the original characters back, it would have tied these stories more to the original show.
Effy pulling the Gen 2 version screwup then "fixing" everything like she used to in Gen 1 was cool. Was glad to see Naomi and Emily too...but goddamn it why did they have to knock off Naomi? 
Pure thus far (haven't watched the second part) is kinda odd, but it has my Cassie and that awesome music so okay.
So Cassie likes being watched by people even if it's in a state of undress...yeah, sadly that sounds like a Cassie thing to do. XD
Sucks that they basically left the Cassie/Sid fans out to dry by not only pretty much confirming they broke up but having her shacking up with the dude from the cafe for the lulz.
I kinda think it would have been more interesting if Cassie was still in America. Would have really sold the difference in time.
Sucks that they basically left the Cassie/Sid fans out to dry by not only pretty much confirming they broke up but having her shacking up with the dude from the cafe for the lulz.
I kinda think it would have been more interesting if Cassie was still in America. Would have really sold the difference in time.
I wish they could have gotten more of the original characters back, it would have tied these stories more to the original show.
OH MY GOD! I am watching the second part of Skins Pure at the moment, and I just realized that stalker/photographer is a guy who I acted with in a short film last year!! He was an awesome guy so I am really glad he has done well! I watched the first half thinking why the hell do I recognize this guy, and then all of a sudden I was like; HOLY HELL I KNOW HIM!
I am enjoying this so far. I know that nothing is really happening, but I just love the cassie character so much
I am enjoying this so far. I know that nothing is really happening, but I just love the cassie character so much
Agreed, I didn't even bother with Pure Part 2. Waiting for Rise, Cook we are counting on you!
Trent Strong
Banned
Boy, those Cassie episodes were boring. I hope the Cook episodes deliver.
Mattlikewhoa
Member
I had not watched Pure yet, but form the sounds of it, I guess I can skip it...
Just finished Fire.
Pretty good. I like how they're really putting into perspective the fact that they're now living in an ADULT world as opposed to the teenage world of past Skins. The aesthetic changed accordingly, too.
Will watch PURE later, though the impressions so far have put me off. Still, gotta watch it.
Pretty good. I like how they're really putting into perspective the fact that they're now living in an ADULT world as opposed to the teenage world of past Skins. The aesthetic changed accordingly, too.
Will watch PURE later, though the impressions so far have put me off. Still, gotta watch it.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I liked 'Pure'. It felt very different from anything they've done before. There wasn't really a plot driving things forward - it was just sort of a slice of Cassie's somber, aimless life which I thought was very fitting. It was also one of the more beautifully shot episodes they've done, though that's not really a surprise considering the fact that Cassie-centric episodes were always the most beautiful looking in the previous seasons.
Anyway, I'm glad 'Pure' wasn't all crazy and melodramatic and morbid and depressing like (parts of) 'Fire' was. No one died and Cassie got a...relatively happy ending? It was upbeat anyway. "Everything's all good."
Indeed! I can't find any good gifs of him though
She wasn't being stalked because of her personality though. Her stalker thought she looked beautiful, that's all.
Eh, I don't know. I thought that her personality in 'Pure' was in line with how she was developed as a character in season 2. If you recall, she went through the wringer in season 2 and even though she eventually reunited with Sid in New York, things still ended (did he die or something? she seemed pretty vague...) and she doesn't exactly have a happy life in London. She doesn't really have anything to be "wow" and "cool" about, to be honest.
It would have been interesting, that's for sure. I actually thought that 'Pure' was going to take place in the US, so I was surprised when I saw Cassie back in London.
Anyway, goodbye Cassie! Bring on Cook and the end of Skins!
Anyway, I'm glad 'Pure' wasn't all crazy and melodramatic and morbid and depressing like (parts of) 'Fire' was. No one died and Cassie got a...relatively happy ending? It was upbeat anyway. "Everything's all good."
Indeed! I can't find any good gifs of him though
She wasn't being stalked because of her personality though. Her stalker thought she looked beautiful, that's all.
Eh, I don't know. I thought that her personality in 'Pure' was in line with how she was developed as a character in season 2. If you recall, she went through the wringer in season 2 and even though she eventually reunited with Sid in New York, things still ended (did he die or something? she seemed pretty vague...) and she doesn't exactly have a happy life in London. She doesn't really have anything to be "wow" and "cool" about, to be honest.
It would have been interesting, that's for sure. I actually thought that 'Pure' was going to take place in the US, so I was surprised when I saw Cassie back in London.
Anyway, goodbye Cassie! Bring on Cook and the end of Skins!
Jason Frost
Member
I wonder why they switched the broadcast of Pure and Rise...
Did they kept the best part for the end?
I hope so.
ThreeSixty
December 16, 2009. 4:00 AM. THE LIGHT FIELD is the force. The mind. That guides. Controls.
So the first part of Skins Rise aired tonight. Anyone watch it? I'm going to save the episode and watch Part 1 and 2 as a "film" like I did with Pure. It would be cool though to get everyone's impressions. I really want Skins to end on a high note. It has been some of the best entertainment I have ever seen. I would love it if Rise is a fitting finale for the series.
Anyone watch Rise?
Anyone watch Rise?
Willkiller
Banned
I just finished watching it there, thought it was fantastic.
dead souls
Member
Fuck yeah, now that was an episode of Skins.
Leona Lewis
Banned
Meh. Melodrama galore, and not very "Skins"-like. Felt like some inconsequential made-for-Cinemax pulp film or something.
The only highlight was Louie's sudden psychopathic turn - a neat contrast with the farcical, feeble depiction of drug dealers in the show's past (ex. the resolution to Sid's marijuana problem, Cook's absurd eating contest). Nice to see some actual weight attached to the idiotic decisions these characters make.
Anyway, considering the precipitously steep cliff the show's fallen off these past few years, it stands to reason that the writers would continue to demonstrate their utter cluelessness as to what makes for compelling television.
By the way, the actress who played Charlie (the dealer's skanky party girl) looked really familiar, but I haven't seen anything on her IMDb resume. Maybe it's incomplete, but the moment I saw her, I could've sworn she was in something else I'd watched not too long ago.
The only highlight was Louie's sudden psychopathic turn - a neat contrast with the farcical, feeble depiction of drug dealers in the show's past (ex. the resolution to Sid's marijuana problem, Cook's absurd eating contest). Nice to see some actual weight attached to the idiotic decisions these characters make.
Anyway, considering the precipitously steep cliff the show's fallen off these past few years, it stands to reason that the writers would continue to demonstrate their utter cluelessness as to what makes for compelling television.
By the way, the actress who played Charlie (the dealer's skanky party girl) looked really familiar, but I haven't seen anything on her IMDb resume. Maybe it's incomplete, but the moment I saw her, I could've sworn she was in something else I'd watched not too long ago.
Misfits! She was in Curtis' episode in the third season.
Anywho, I do echo some sentiments already posted but they've definitely saved the best for last. Jack O'Connell, hell of an actor.
Honey Bunny
Member
I came in here to see what nu-Skins looks like after I jumped ship a few years ago and ..what a nice surprise. Gotta watch these.
My thoughts exactly. Saving the best for last!
My thoughts exactly. Pure felt like the definition of a filler episode, but with no inherent purpose behind it. The best part about it was the music selection.
It's annoying to know that out of all the characters they could have brought back and touched upon, they went with her and made her episodes fell like a gigantic waste of time.
SomethingInTheSea
Member
I just want to cry now, and I thought things couldn't get any sadder than after Fire
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