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Skullgirls |OT| New age of Heroines
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I'm actually somewhat concerned that we may not have budgeted enough there - the patch testing has cost more than double that so far.
One thing about a PC version, you could always do beta patches on Steam, that might drop costs as you could beta patch with more testers.
I'll admit I probably have a bit of a rose-colored view of indies due to my knowledge of indie operations being Soldak and Positech, and those two guys do quite well for themselves. Sometimes it makes me think it's that way for everyone when it isn't. Skullgirls in particular seems to have been a struggle.
I'll be curious to see what's avaliable tomorrow- I might be getting sequestered this weekend, but I'll be ok for the short term.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Man, somebody mentioned Cryamore and I have veeeery little faith that the people involved know what theyre getting into. I mean, the amount of features the game says its gonna have its completely disproportionate with the amount of money theyre asking for.
I know a couple of the people involved and I wish them the best of luck, but holy crap. Id be shocked if the product launches on time or has even half the features theyre promising (good animations for Kinuko notwithstanding
I know a couple of the people involved and I wish them the best of luck, but holy crap. Id be shocked if the product launches on time or has even half the features theyre promising (good animations for Kinuko notwithstanding
SolarPowered
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If you call having to spend months on a patch without getting paid a struggle, yeah...
Just something I've heard a few times on the Salty Cupcakes streams.
Master Milk
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Hopefully those hats take off and three characters get funded and that won't even be a problem.
I don't do TF2 or hats but apparently the fans are really serious about their headgear? Would we see a fourth character if the funds actually blew up that much?
lol@900K
Yeah, I think we'd opt for a fourth character over some of the other things. I strongly doubt we're going to get that far, though.
I think if we managed to get a 4th, I think we'd probably return to the original plan of Umbrella.
Right now, I'd just be fucking ecstatic if we managed to fund Squigly and Big Band.
Master Milk
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If we managed to get a fourth, I'm sure the community would be expecting the number two in the fan vote to get in. But yea, getting past Squigs and Sax Deka are the first steps.
Haha, thanks, man.
Some of the comments on there are worse than the Joystiq ones, which is... impressive.
I just finished reading through the joystiq comments...I didnt know it could get worse
Well, the Joystiq article has no context, so people just see a big number and react wildly.
The Kotaku comments are probably more balanced on the whole because there are numbers, and so some people have taken upon themselves to do the math and see that we're not making much money at all.
...But then there are a lot of weird comments about, like... how Kickstarter helps us people that are too proud to take better-paying jobs to be homeless? And we might be buying crack?
I guess some people think that she'll become un-free after 3 months?
SolarPowered
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Exactly
Un-free to everyone, not just the people who check this out after three months(sorta like a three month rental to participants of the fundraiser). Of course, I'm sure there are some crazies who'd probably whine even if they had to pay for the characters a year from now. The latter group isn't worth considering at all.
DiscoShark
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Going over this thread and the cost breakdown of the character ... for better or worse am I the only one that thinks there should be a goal that guarantees the funding of the character on the PC version of the game and not the console? I feel like, if 20-30k is saved in that process, then it would be well worth having that sort of safety net that says,"Okay, if we cant reach 150k to have that multiconsole release here's what we'd need just to get the content out on PC." Am I too late for this?
I mean I guess a part of me realizes that you want to appeal to fans of fighting games and the majority of fighting games fans currently play on console (in North America at least) ... but is it worth going through all of the red tape in order to appeal to that constituency when there's a very real untapped market for quality fighting games of this type on the PC platform? Would it be better for the game (and company) if consoles were given less priority for the future development of this title? I point to Awesomenauts (2D casual MOBA) as an example of a game that I think's followed a somewhat similar sort of circumstances where their console publisher became bankrupt and what started out as a way to keep the team working through the development of the PC version of the game has turned into the continued expansion of that version of the game throughout the last 5-6 months, for free to their consumers (they charge for skins).
Or is it not a fair comparisons given that the MOBA market was stronger on the PC to begin with .. ?
Also Big Band <3
Edit : So I guess an application of my idea if the goals were readjusted super last minute :
120k : Squigly PC
150k : Squigly PS3/360
350k : Big Band PC
380k : Big Band PS3/360
etc etc...
Do you guys envision a situation where there's enough money to fund a multiconsole release for the first character but just shy the amount needed for a second or third? Would you at all consider releasing platform exclusive content if such a situation were to occur?
tl;dr - I really think there should be a goal setup that involves covering all development costs of the character minus whatever it would take to test said content on the 360 and PS3 platforms. Consider it a safety net.
I mean I guess a part of me realizes that you want to appeal to fans of fighting games and the majority of fighting games fans currently play on console (in North America at least) ... but is it worth going through all of the red tape in order to appeal to that constituency when there's a very real untapped market for quality fighting games of this type on the PC platform? Would it be better for the game (and company) if consoles were given less priority for the future development of this title? I point to Awesomenauts (2D casual MOBA) as an example of a game that I think's followed a somewhat similar sort of circumstances where their console publisher became bankrupt and what started out as a way to keep the team working through the development of the PC version of the game has turned into the continued expansion of that version of the game throughout the last 5-6 months, for free to their consumers (they charge for skins).
Or is it not a fair comparisons given that the MOBA market was stronger on the PC to begin with .. ?
Also Big Band <3
Edit : So I guess an application of my idea if the goals were readjusted super last minute :
120k : Squigly PC
150k : Squigly PS3/360
350k : Big Band PC
380k : Big Band PS3/360
etc etc...
Do you guys envision a situation where there's enough money to fund a multiconsole release for the first character but just shy the amount needed for a second or third? Would you at all consider releasing platform exclusive content if such a situation were to occur?
tl;dr - I really think there should be a goal setup that involves covering all development costs of the character minus whatever it would take to test said content on the 360 and PS3 platforms. Consider it a safety net.
Master Milk
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The difference would probably only be the 10k for the cert, as I'd like to think they'd still spend the 20K on QA, but maybe they could do it cheaper if not for consoles.
I honestly think Squigs being made won't even be a problem. It's the other two that'll be a real push.
But if Squigs really doesn't get funded now, I think the PC release would still give them the funds to do her in the future. It's just the wait would be longer, and there's the possibility that SG would get put on the backburner if L0 signs another project.
Also, less than four hours left. D:
Master Milk
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That custom color is tempting, but I doubt Mike would let a transparent Double rock lol.
SloaneRisette
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Is there a link to the donation drive anywhere?
I can't seem to find it for whatever reason and I could've sworn I read it would be up today.
I can't seem to find it for whatever reason and I could've sworn I read it would be up today.
DiscoShark
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10k in 30 minutes ... I guess that's typical of a kickstarter type project that has some hype leading up until its release?
I'll make one if I have to...
The Steam beta access is a pretty great reward.
If someone wants the PC version you might as well get it through this.
Do it.gif
Master Milk
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I don't know why, but I didn't think to ask Ravi about one until right when the campaign started. I'll go ahead and throw a quick one up.
E: Or not, it's already up. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=515786
DiscoShark
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Haha, was just starting to write too. Guess we should have prepared a thread before hand, just didn't come to mind.
That's well ahead of Cryamore (which is around 200k now I think) and At the Gates (which was more modest, and TBS fans are generally saner than Skullgirls fans)
Damn, I missed out on the $1000 tier.
Once all the artists wake up I'm going to look into increasing those.
Everything needs to be increased!
I can't pay until later today, and all of the higher tiers are getting sold out!
Haha, well I just jumped in at the $300 tier so hopefully I can increase that if you guys do. :b
CrazyTank940
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lol I just noticed Mike Z's vomiting rainbows
shaowebb
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360 patch status?
Ask Microsoft :C
Im double dipping for that optimized PC port though.
SolarPowered
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Skullgirls HD Patched 12/18/2012 - Azure vs Nekro_Surge [6/6]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISPfo1_IK3I
The final of six videos covering my fight againt Nekro_Surge. It's a fun watch. Moving on...
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Squigly 150k goal reached, storymode/stage and Big Band to follow!
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/keep-skullgirls-growing/x/2520284?c=activity
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http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/174632/nyc-sg-community#latest
A thread about the NY Skullgirls community. Useful for those of us with the means, will and time to make it out to local events. Check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISPfo1_IK3I
The final of six videos covering my fight againt Nekro_Surge. It's a fun watch. Moving on...
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Squigly 150k goal reached, storymode/stage and Big Band to follow!
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/keep-skullgirls-growing/x/2520284?c=activity
Looks like we'll be seeing Squigly real soon. We've still got Big Band and Panzerfaust to work on next so prime your wallets, fellas.
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http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/174632/nyc-sg-community#latest
A thread about the NY Skullgirls community. Useful for those of us with the means, will and time to make it out to local events. Check it out.
DiscoShark
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Man ... I honestly did not have high hopes that the team would be able to raise the required money for funding Squigly. The fact that they destroyed expectations in a single day completely boggles my mind. Funds are transferred to the team tomorrow according to the website, bravo community.
Putting in my $30 for that Squigly stage and Big Band today.
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Honestly why doesn't Parasoul have an Annie color? I saw this in the $400 rewards tier for making a custom palette and it just makes too much sense. Hopefully one of our high end backers makes it happen.
Will the palettes made by backers be available as free DLC or is there a plan to monetize that?
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Putting in my $30 for that Squigly stage and Big Band today.
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Honestly why doesn't Parasoul have an Annie color? I saw this in the $400 rewards tier for making a custom palette and it just makes too much sense. Hopefully one of our high end backers makes it happen.
Will the palettes made by backers be available as free DLC or is there a plan to monetize that?
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<- Avatar Stanley-fied. Can't ignore Dr. Whitefin
Ravi, perhaps getting in contact with MS online ops again, linking to the amazing campaign and going "HEY GUYS WE COULD REALLY DO WITH OUR UPDATE GETTING OUT SOON TO HELP OUT HERE HINT HINT"? Try cc'ing an MS marketing contact if you have any, too, they might kick some asses...
I'm certainly going to be pledging on the weekend after being paid for one of the tiers with the PC version, anyway. I'll be feeling flush with cash so it'll probably be the $50 one!
Ravi, perhaps getting in contact with MS online ops again, linking to the amazing campaign and going "HEY GUYS WE COULD REALLY DO WITH OUR UPDATE GETTING OUT SOON TO HELP OUT HERE HINT HINT"? Try cc'ing an MS marketing contact if you have any, too, they might kick some asses...
I'm certainly going to be pledging on the weekend after being paid for one of the tiers with the PC version, anyway. I'll be feeling flush with cash so it'll probably be the $50 one!
I actually did e-mail our account rep yesterday about this exact thing, and didn't hear back.
This is understandably a sore point for a lot of our fans, and I think a lot of people would open their wallets up if we had some good news on the X360 patch front.
BoosterDuck
Banned
Why did you donate so much to the Skullgirls EVO drive?
DiscoShark
Banned
You could have waited for the PC version to come out assuming you had put in at least $30. Hope you enjoy the game though. Hit me up on PSN if you're looking for some matches sometime. It's the same as the GAF name.
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ASDFDSFDFADF.
This guy did a VO test for Big Band I guess, if the character is funded he NEEDS to try out for a part. I was COMPLETELY sold after the first line, oh my god.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeEIWoLeRTg
AHHHH, IT'S SO PERFECT.
shaowebb
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OMG Send this to Labzero Ravi! Its so perfect it hurts!
I DON'T EVEN KNOW
SolarPowered
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We love donation monsters like you. Never change! <3
This guy is amazing. The perfect fit imo.