sloppyjoe_gamer
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Ok, im having more thoughts about this hahaha....Is the game a bitch to platinum (for those who have)?
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Skyrim-- Safe to buy now?
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Nope. Platinumed it in 60 hours. Most time consuming trophy is getting to level 40, and that was the last trophy I got. Had to grind a bit.
MMaRsu
Member
I want to say that my time spent on it was amazing. Im just kinda pissed at Bethesda still...
Im gonna start playing now.
Oblivion is better in some ways. Like the quests are miiiiiiiiles better because they actually focused on making unique quests and not a billion MMO fetch quests just to be able to come out and say "Skyrim will have infinite quests" (actual words by Todd Howard).
Skyrim is better in most other categories but really that and Oblivion fall into their own little dumbed down category. They both together can't touch Morrowind, but in their own category I would say I got more enjoyment out of Oblivion. What we see as failures in Skyrim now wasn't quite as bad back in 2006 and was more forgivable. Plus I need interesting quests in games like this.
macfoshizzle
Member
on the lastest patch, loved the aditional kill cams!
Gillian Seed
Banned
LMAO! It is the best Exploration Game this Gen. What game did you play?
That's simply false. You can't have great exploration when there's nothing worth exploring.
I'll go through some possible reasons for exploring.
Do I explore for loot? Nah, I'm as likely to get some crap iron sword with a small buff at the end as I am to get something I'll actually use.
Do I explore for story? Story in a Bethesda game? I'll just go buy the books they sell in some city and read those.
Do I explore to see the buildings? Not really. The layout in Skyrim's dungeons are better than Oblivion but the forts still mostly look like each other, as do the caves and underground ruins.
TemplaerDude
Member
Fuck no! Any game that scales like Skyrim does puts itself out of contention for "best exploration". Kills the immersion, kills the fun of exploring.
Not to mention that is was completely unplayable on one system for months after its release (and may still be for all I know, I stopped playing it after they started telling me that I wasn't actually having those problems), there are far better games out there more worthy of that recognition.
Your opinion, not simply false.
EDIT: Agreed thought that it is not the BEST exploration game, just a really good one, IMO.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
"Nothing worth exploring"? Well, I completely disagree with that. But for me it isn't all about the LOOTLOOTLOOT (in fact, that's a pretty small part of the game's draw for me); I simply enjoy the experience of exploring the world Bethesda has crafted, diving into some dungeon and killing a bunch of monsters (which might not always get me great LOOT, but is usually rewarding in other ways), stumbling upon various places with their own little stories (a certain lighthouse one was pretty cool), etc.
The achievements/trophies are well designed in Skryim. Getting a platinum won't be too tough, and you'll get it by going through the meaningful parts of the game.
I just don't see a possible reason why it could be labeled a good exploration game. I listed the reasons I could think of for doing it, are there more?
And please don't say immersion or to get immersed in the world. Without any further details than that the word immersion is just some blanket term that means nothing by itself.
RoadHazard said:
Like what? Mashing the right trigger until they're dead? What other possible way could there be?
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I personally think the world in and of itself is very immersive (yep, totally gonna use that term), more so than most (maybe all) games I've played. It feels like a realistic Nordic environment, and looking out over it it makes me want to go explore it.
I get gold, items I can sell for gold, experience, sometimes a new shout, etc. Often there's also a small story to unravel, which is interesting to me.
Can't speak for the PS3 version, but the PC version is very good. Kept me entertained for quite some time, and if you like games that encourage you to explore it's fantastic. However it does get sort of repetitive after a while, as a lot of dungeons tend to look similar to one another and enemy variety isn't all that great.
My immersion was lost early on when I had to storm forts that were held by about 10 soldiers. Also taking those forts somehow automatically took the cities too. I guess Nords didn't defend their cities very well.
RoadHazard said:
Gold is near meaningless in Skyrim since the shops all scale to your level, and since loot in general scales to your level you'll likely have most of what they sell already by traveling. It's easy as hell to have 8k gold about 5 hours into Skyrim and the only real huge uses for them are the houses. And you only really need 1 house as they all do the same functions, and since you can fast travel there's no need to have multiple houses.
KittyKittyBangBang
Member
Exploration is pretty fun until you get tired of how almost every dungeon is samey and dull, the items you find aren't interesting or good, the enemies are scaling, and even the scenery won't change.
I think I got the most enjoyment out of just finding the words of power, because those tended to have the more interesting environments.
I think I got the most enjoyment out of just finding the words of power, because those tended to have the more interesting environments.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Sounds to me like you played the game with the mindset that everything you did in it had to be immediately rewarding and meaningful. I play it more as an experience of being in this world and doing different stuff, some of which makes me progress through the game and some of which doesn't. To me the game is an immersive experience, rather than just another race to the finish. That's why I might want to own more than one house, even though it is mostly pointless.
I'm not sure what that is. Do you mean spell making or the enchanting table that's everywhere? I can't recall off the top of my head if you get a table in the house but if not the jarl's place in most cities has one since they all have their own magic person.
Bisnic said:
Ah the old fuck the haters argument, for when you actually have no counter argument. Looking at a view means different things to other people. It's kind of like people who appreciate staring at paintings, and I am not one of those people.
Then again I do like being amazed by games that have great graphics, it's just Skyrim without mods is a fugly game in every way.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Ok, so you clearly have no interest in just being immersed in a well-designed world ready to be explored (even if there aren't always amazing rewards for doing so). Then I can see why you didn't enjoy the game as much as some of us, and that's ok. But don't say the game's world isn't worth exploring as if it's an objective fact, because for those of us who do want that experience it most certainly is.
I think the only house that doesnt have one is Breezehome in Whiterun. The cheapest house.
I am going to say that because I don't consider "just wanting to look at stuff" a valid reason for defending Skyrim's exploration. Because you can "just look at stuff" in any video game ever. How can you have a debate with people who just say vague things like that?
RPGCrazied
Member
Yes. I logged over 85 hours with one freeze and a couple of glitches.
WrenchNinja
Member
Don't support a company that intentionally released a broken game and took months and months to do something about it.
Mine too. Whiterun just feels like home to me. Its like living in Edoras lol
And when 'Streets of Whiterun' starts playing ... pure bliss
MMaRsu
Member
Yeah this i can agree with plus the ps3 version is still not fully stable imo.
RockmanWhore
Member
I would wait for the eventual GOTY edition with all the DLC. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd release it this holiday season.
He should have stopped arguing with you when you said you dont get why people stare at paintings.
I mean, that explains it really.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
If all you ever want out of your games is RESULTS RESULTS RESULTS (that certainly is what you make it sound like), then maybe Skyrim just isn't the right kind of game for you? You seem unable to grasp the idea that anyone could enjoy just exploring and being immersed in a well-designed world. And again, that's fine; we all enjoy different things. But stop trying to pass your personal opinions off as facts.
Guess it does.
It's not my fault if you think "Exploration = Good loot & gold in the end". Some people just want to explore for the sake of exploring. Walking around a forest to find an old fisherman dude near a river who might be fighting a bear is cool immersion, who cares if that guy doesnt have an epic sword in his chest? That's not what exploring is about.
That is what exploration is. That's one of the biggest reasons why most people consider Morrowind one of the greatest games ever and not Skyrim. Because there was an actual point to the game, yet it also had the stuff that weird people like you guys like. Stuff to stare at. We were both happy back then.
AgentOtaku
Member
Also waiting for Steam sale this summer
sloppyjoe_gamer
Member
Ok GAF i picked this up for PS3 yesterday. Gonna dig in today....can't wait! After thinking it all through all the good weighed more on me than the bad.
Fallout 3 and New Vegas will be forever broken. There is no way to repair the issues with the games. There's a programming error that just causes them to lock up after you've done a certain amount of changes to the game world due to the game being designed around how the PS3 treats RAM versus how the 360 treats RAM. This problem is exaggerated when the expansions are added on top of the vanilla game due to their being more content. These titles play much better on 360 and, with the mod support, incredibly well on the PC.
Skyrim has been "fixed" on PS3. There are still frame rate issues in certain areas, but overall it works. However, their "fix" basically adjusted the way that items spawn/remain in the game. Bodies and items you drop will disappear almost immediately after you leave and reenter a room. So, the game plays better, but it is still an inferior experience compared to the 360 and, due to mod support, the PC.
All in all, get Skyrim for PC if you can, 360 if you can't, and only play it on PS3 if you will never own the other two items. As for the Fallouts, they will break eventually so I wouldn't recommend them on anything other than PC or 360. The frustration is just on worth it on the PS3.
Skyrim has been "fixed" on PS3. There are still frame rate issues in certain areas, but overall it works. However, their "fix" basically adjusted the way that items spawn/remain in the game. Bodies and items you drop will disappear almost immediately after you leave and reenter a room. So, the game plays better, but it is still an inferior experience compared to the 360 and, due to mod support, the PC.
All in all, get Skyrim for PC if you can, 360 if you can't, and only play it on PS3 if you will never own the other two items. As for the Fallouts, they will break eventually so I wouldn't recommend them on anything other than PC or 360. The frustration is just on worth it on the PS3.
tilting_msh
Neo Member
So is this set in stone? I'm playing FO3 (GOTY) on PS3 and enjoying it, but am starting to log some serious hours on it and noticing a couple freezes and some weird glitches. Nothing earth-shattering, but it is getting irritating. Am I doomed to have my game unplayable before I can finish it? Is there anything I can do to prevent this or should I just stop playing now and save myself the misery of being forced to quit the game once it's gets too unstable to play?