He's barely been on the Nintendo systems. 2 NES games. A remake on GameCube, in 2004, of a game that was already released in 1998. The same thing was repeated with Metal Gear Solid 3, that was actually undercut by announcing collections that included the game. Snake shouldn't have been in Brawl in the first place. He shouldn't be in the new game either.
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Smash Bros. 3DS Japanese Packaging POSSIBLY Indicates Snake is cut from the game
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He's barely been on the Nintendo systems. 2 NES games. A remake on GameCube, in 2004, of a game that was already released in 1998. The same thing was repeated with Metal Gear Solid 3, that was actually undercut by announcing collections that included the game. Snake shouldn't have been in Brawl in the first place. He shouldn't be in the new game either.
Except for Pichu, I have heard lots of people wanting Mewtwo and Roy back, like, where have you been?
GG. Disappointed it took so many posts to get to this. Also, put me in the Snake didn't and doesn't belong camp. You don't put your games on Nintendo consoles, don't expect your character to show up in Nintendo's premier party-fighter.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
The fact Konami didn't bother to port Fox Engine to Wii U when they have those games on the PS3/360 tells you all you need to know.
Nintendojitsu
Banned
Would only really work if the advertised Snake being in the game and just replaced him with Raiden after letting you use him for an hour or so.
I've been trying to warn you cranberry shortcuts that Snake is getting replaced by Haruka.
I'd take her over most of the new characters.
Jawmuncher
Member
His inclusion in brawl in my book is more than enough reason to keep him in smash. I don't understand why his history part always gets brought up as a valid reason for him to not be in/not return. Obviously sakurai already figured it was fine when he first put him in the game.
Any character who doesn't return is a loss just like it has been said even if you don't like them. I sure don't play as I've climbers but something would definitely be missing if they weren't back for example .
Any character who doesn't return is a loss just like it has been said even if you don't like them. I sure don't play as I've climbers but something would definitely be missing if they weren't back for example .
Samurai_Heart
Member
25,793 blocks for RE so about 3.2GB
MGS3 is about 3.13GB if google sites is correct.
Burning Justice
the superior princess
Nintendo, Creatures, and Game Freak jointly own the Pokemon IP. IIRC, Game Freak almost went bankrupt during development of Pokemon Red/Green. Creatures provided funding, and got partial rights to the IP in exchange.
Coffee Dog
Banned
You would take picku, ivysaur, squirtle, or roy, over solid fucking snake?
I can't.
On the same merit, Sonic wouldn't fit either. Can't remember a Sega game on Nintendo's system prior to the GameCube or GBA.
That's why they're guest characters. Metal Gear existed on the NES, GBC, GCN, and 3DS.
Also, Ubisoft isn't on the copyright either on the alleged packaging. Rayman is in the game as a trophy. Treasure has a Sin and Punishment Assist Trophy.
The12thGripper
Member
Fuck you.
Because people feel that some characters are more worthy of a spot than others. Some people wouldn't mind a less popular character (Snake, Jigglypuff) if it meant someone highly requested got in (Mewtwo, Mega Man). Space isn't the issue though, Sakurai said that the roster is set in stone. The only other restriction is time.
Diprosalic
Banned
Jiggly is super popular.
Yeah this is exactly what I am saying. Him being in Brawl is all the "relevance" he needs.
NotDreamcast
Member
Bummer. After just getting into the Metal Gear series not too long ago, I wanted to see the sneaking man return.
Spinosaurus
Member
I owe it to Brawl for getting me into MGS so this really bums me out. He was one of the best designed characters. Aside from the tilts, that is.
Disappointing.
Disappointing.
MrSaturn99
Member
Seriously. I'm just baffled right now.
this is fucking amazingI've been trying to warn you cranberry shortcuts that Snake is getting replaced by Haruka.
Diprosalic
Banned
they should give the moveset to an Advance Wars character, that would be the best thing.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
IMO if the developers of said game aren't supporting Nintendo consoles why should their character be given a spot in Smash?
My guess would be that Nintendo still didn't want a huge download size to give people an incentive to download it.
Then again, I think Nintendo does give Sakurai and the team "free reign" to include as much content as they deem fit. So, don't know really.
Duane Cunningham
Member
I'd like to see him return as Old Snake with octo camo that's constantly blending in with the bg and making him nearly disappear. A character like that wouldn't work in a normal 1 on 1 fighting game since the opponent is always aware of where you are, but in smash he could really wreak havoc sneaking up on people when their attention is diverted to the others.
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Xpike
Unconfirmed Member
smh at the people happy for Snake being cut. The Metal Gear franchise only has, what, 5 main games until now? Out of which you can play the best 2 on Nintendo systems. Saying he "doesn't fit" is ridiculous since it just pins Nintendo consoles as being unable to have any dark or realistic games at all. What I see here is just us losing a really creative moveset if it happens because Sakurai and Konami couldn't work something out this time.
They were supporting Nintendo consoles on about the same level as when Brawl launched. Don't see why it would make a difference now.
You're right, he was barely in any Nintendo games and that's why he was a cool reveal; because he doesn't belong. They make this obvious in the reveal trailer and his codec conversations that he's an outlier cameo. Even his weird ass yet strong move set reflects this. Who or what is losing integrity for Snake being in? Nintendo? That's silly. People need to stop taking that kind of shit so seriously, it's an especially laughable perspective to have on the Smash games out of anything.
Personally I didn't play as him so it doesn't affect me much, but throwing away a unique moveset that players like is always a concern.
Dr. Buni
Member
That sounds very like Nintendo. Though 3GB at least wouldn't be a huge download size and we could have at least three or four music pieces for each stage...
Pretty much the same for me...Really weird to see all those people being glad that he (probably) isn't in.
SoaringDive
Member
You know Metal Gear didn't start with Solid, right?
Edag Plata
Banned
The real news is Rosalina getting priority over Peach.
Id pick roy over snake with no problem.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Oh wow.
Yeah, rooting for characters to get cut are pretty dumb in general for any fighting games. It's pretty sad that people rather to be selfish and like to see other people in misery that their favorite characters got cut.
I haven't really play and complete MGS franchise itself but I really like Snake's archetype where he can be trap master to control the stage. I can imagine some people were salty how powerful he was in Brawl and actively want to see him cut out, again there is other group which is Nintendo Purist. AT least, Nintendo Purists lost their war this time.
I dont think he fits the Smash Bros. roster now that MGS is getting more serious with every new game, yeah the story revolves around Big Boss nowadays but i feel that their are other characters that would fit the Smash "Universe" better. I mean it`s just an opinion, many criticized Playstation Allstars for dumping many different characters/styles into one game.
A Belmont or Hershel Layton though....
Jawmuncher
Member
Advertising works in mysterious ways.
If not for snakes inclusion I would have never bought a Wii when I did at the smash launch. Nor would I have gotten into Nintendo games and already have a WiiU.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Give us big boss from MGS3 3DS
How many games has Lucas or Ice Climbers been in? Smh
Dr. Buni
Member
Peach is on the Wii U version box art, tho
Lucas and Ice Climbers are Nintendo characters
He'd still be one more character in the roster, doesn't matter whether he's been on Nintendo as of late.
Dr. Buni
Member
It does, though. And we still have plenty of characters in the game without Snake :3
And this is why he was probably cut, folks. Why would Nintendo want to push a game intentionally ignoring their systems, save an occasional 6+ year old port.
Peach is on the Wii U version box art, tho
Lucas and Ice Climbers are Nintendo characters
But his argument seems based on how many Nintendo games/platforms that character has been in, which is objectively horse shit and irrelevant considering Snake was already deemed worthy of Smash by Sakurai and Kojima in Brawl.
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Xpike
Unconfirmed Member
NES also had the OG Metal Gear, and the MSX wasn't released on NA so I don't see a problem with then not releasing Metal Gear 2 on the NES. Also ignoring that without the bad American Metal Gear 2, Kojima wouldn't had made a sequel, so the NES is indirectly responsable for the whole existence of the franchise.
No it doesn't. When Brawl came out, it had been a longer time since Snake was last on a Nintendo platform than when SSB4 will release (because Snake was last on MGS3D for Nintendo 3DS).
And where the fuck has Megaman been lately?
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