Assuming the change in movesets and abilities is a penalty.lostzenfound said:So does being without armor mean that Zero Suit Samus will be more susceptible to damage or have poorer abilities? If that's the case, Samus just got broke, as no other character seems to have a penalty for using a Final Smash.
Acerac said:How so?
WastingPenguins said:Hmmm this opens up a lot of weird new questions.
First of all, once you transform into ZS Samus, what happens when you die? If you come back as Samus, that's shitty, because it might mean you can only play as ZS Samus for half a stock in a match. If you stay ZS Samus, that sucks, because what if you just want to ****ing play as Samus?
Then you have the possibility that there's a shortcut, ala hold-A-before-match for Sheik. If indeed you could do this, what happens when you die? Do you come back as the fully suited Samus? :lol
Ohhh, boy.
DigDugDirkDiggler said:Once Samus uses her final smash and she becomes her Zero Suit self, there's no way she can use the final smash again in the match...unless she regains her suit when she respawns as others have questioned.
For the sake of balancing the game, I assume the other characters could also only use their final smashes once as well.
Soneet said:Maybe you can turn into Zero Suit Samus by overcharging your power beam as regular Samus.
1. To wait for a smash ball to play as Zero Suit Samus is kind of silly.
2. Selecting Zero Suit Samus is kind of silly because that defeats the -zero suit, armor breaking down- effect.
3. I think there's only 1 smash ball per match in regular games. Custom games however...
- My reasoning behind this is ... running through a smash ball seems stupid (only picking up once)
- Taking a smash ball but not using it seems also stupid
- Using it multiple times seems to be impossible.
Secret nr.
4. Maybe it's 1 smash ball per life. If the original user dies, there's a chance for it to drop again. That way you can always get it multiple times.
6. Then again, you don't want the game turn too much into Mario Kart, where items determine everything. Some luck is nice, but not too much.
Soneet said:I win!
PS. Where do you guys read Final Smash? I'm seeing it as a normal attack that can only be used once, no Smash Ball required.
Soneet said:PS. Where do you guys read Final Smash? I'm seeing it as a normal attack that can only be used once, no Smash Ball required.
Jul. 18 Wed. 2007
Samus: Final Smash
Soneet said:I win!
PS. Where do you guys read Final Smash? I'm seeing it as a normal attack that can only be used once, no Smash Ball required.
That's awkward :/JohnTinker said:Well,
PepsimanVsJoe said:I guess it may as well be noted that Zero suit Samus was essentially useless in Metroid: Zero mission. Her only weapon was that gun and all it was capable of doing was stunning enemies temporarily(and the weapon had to be charged up too as a "bonus")
Granted it's doubtful that ZS Samus is completely useless in Brawl but that would make for an interesting dynamic if her and every other character suffered greatly after using their "Final Smash"(Final being that you should finish off your opponents, God help you if you don't)
Then again I'm just a pizza boy from some hick-town and the last person who should be speculating about stuff.
that would be cool considering all the other players are tossing suit parts around :lolKandinsky said:Maybe you can gain your suit using down B on ZSS? (as long as the armor pieces are still in sight, like a magnet thing, dunno :/)
What if they got Patrick Stewart to be the new announcer for the gameAniHawk said:
"...But I've seen everything."
Kandinsky said:Maybe you can gain your suit using down B on ZSS? (as long as the armor pieces are still in sight, like a magnet thing, dunno :/)
Well played, sir :lolAniHawk said:
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PuppetSlave said:Is it just me or does kirby look really evil in that last screen?
looks more like lust than evil. Zelda is trying to stop his advances.PuppetSlave said:Is it just me or does kirby look really evil in that last screen?
rakka said:
racist
PuppetSlave said:Is it just me or does kirby look really evil in that last screen?
thefro said:I highly doubt this is the only way to transform.
A suit item drop could appear, or the suit would be available for you to transform back into it after you threw all the pieces of it.
Lots of jumping to conclusions going on, but this is normal for the thread.
Smiles and Cries said:Did you know you could be banned for things like this on GAF?
What are you inferring here? Olimario is that you?
Just don't use the Final Smash item and you'll be fine.Nintaiyo said:There are a lot of Samus players who won't be too happy about this.
It's possible she will be like the Ice Climbers... SSBM has a precedent for a fighter LOSING abilities within a match, although in that case the abilities are regained after death.Keru_Shiri said:I wonder if that means ZSS is seperate? Perhaps all you have to do is perform the final smash once and she will be selectable from then on, but Samus will always lose her suit after a final smash. I'm wondering if there will be other conditions that trigger her suit falling apart, or if there's a way to regain it?
What if she uses a final smash while in ZSSDavidDayton said:Just don't use the Final Smash item and you'll be fine.
It's possible she will be like the Ice Climbers... SSBM has a precedent for a fighter LOSING abilities within a match, although in that case the abilities are regained after death.
Date of Lies said:I get the feeling Hal might be adding too much "super attacks" in this iteration (not just the final smashes either, Wario's charged up fart for example), and hence, reducing the depth of the game. I hope I'm wrong, SSBM had was a very deep fighting game when playing at a high level.
Smiles and Cries said:Did you know you could be banned for things like this on GAF?
What are you inferring here? Olimario is that you?