Gonzo The Great
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I campaigned heavily for Bomberman during the Brawl era, but he's pretty much dead now. Like, worse than Mega Man. Konami is the worst publisher in the industry.
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Smash Wii U & 3DS Downloadable Characters Discussion and Information on Smash Ballot
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I campaigned heavily for Bomberman during the Brawl era, but he's pretty much dead now. Like, worse than Mega Man. Konami is the worst publisher in the industry.
Waluigilicious
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Bomberman is the only character who deserves to be in alongside the other 3. Infact I'd say Sonic and Pac Man are in one group and Bomberman is equal to Mega Man just below in terms of how much they deserve to be in. Yeah Mega Man has more hardcore fans but this is because of the nature of the Bomberman games. Just like Pac Man, Bomberman doesn't necessarily have "fans" but he's up there in importance and how much he is recognised. He deserves it more than Simon Belmont.
And of course some Bomberman Music
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wX3ZHObokJw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8yaKkbPSM-U
Secretly the best VGM no one mentions:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_xHxO_R1CW4
Time to belly dance!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bTROBVe5ku8
Not that I'd mind seeing Simon, Phoenix Wright or in an alternate world Banjo, Conker and Joanna, but I just can't deny that Bomberman is next on the list of most deserving.
And of course some Bomberman Music
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wX3ZHObokJw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8yaKkbPSM-U
Secretly the best VGM no one mentions:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_xHxO_R1CW4
Time to belly dance!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bTROBVe5ku8
Not that I'd mind seeing Simon, Phoenix Wright or in an alternate world Banjo, Conker and Joanna, but I just can't deny that Bomberman is next on the list of most deserving.
Man, don't remind me. It still makes me sore that Konami and brought Hudson Soft and they thought the smartest idea was to dissolve them and take their I.P.'s....But they haven't done jack squat with them.
Waluigilicious
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That is what it ultimately comes down to anyway but you can't just ignore the deserves to factor when it plays a big role in a lot of Sakurais and the fans votes in the first place.
Pretty sure that Roy, Greninja, and the Ice Climbers wouldn't be there based on the silly rules I always see people making up. This honestly just seems like another way to try and dismiss characters and votes.
Vote for whoever you want goddamnit!
RomanceDawn
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It is absolutely NOT from Nintendo's official poll I can tell you that now. Just look how they separated the characters into different classes. There is NO way to know any early results of this poll unless you were on the inside. That Japanese one came from a Smash Boards user I think and the US one is purely anecdotal.
Decepticon
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HOLY FUCK GOKU GOGOGOGOGOGO
GiantBreadbug
Member
I think it's more of a joke at this point.
Unless it's miiverse
Then it's very, very real
dangeraaron10
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No idea.
Never watched Dragon Ball, or any variation of it. I always thought it was hard to get into as a kid.
Looks like character suggestions are already at the usual level of insanity.
I can't believe people are seriously suggesting characters like Shovel Knight and Shantae. I'm not trying to bash their games, but their franchises have nowhere near the status that Sonic, Megaman, and Pacman do. Even if they were to win the poll I don't think they'd be given a chance.
I'm also surprised so many people are jumping to suggest 3rd parties at all before exploring more of Nintendo's library. I mean the Waluigi and K Rool suggestions are dumb IMO but at least they're Nintendo characters.
Dragon Ball Z may be super old at this point but it's still very popular, especially amongst teen boys and younger.
I can't believe people are seriously suggesting characters like Shovel Knight and Shantae. I'm not trying to bash their games, but their franchises have nowhere near the status that Sonic, Megaman, and Pacman do. Even if they were to win the poll I don't think they'd be given a chance.
I'm also surprised so many people are jumping to suggest 3rd parties at all before exploring more of Nintendo's library. I mean the Waluigi and K Rool suggestions are dumb IMO but at least they're Nintendo characters.
Dragon Ball Z may be super old at this point but it's still very popular, especially amongst teen boys and younger.
No clue. I mean, I love Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z but I'd never vote for him. Maybe it's a fantasy to see Mario and Goku throw down like in many of those ancient flash pixel animations on YouTube.
dangeraaron10
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To be fair, Nintendo did clarify you can vote for any video game character. With no specifics or rules that many of us GAFers like to place on Smash character picks. So people are free to go wild. And I wouldn't call K. Rool's suggestions being dumb, he seems to be hitting high in popularity, in both US and (surprisingly) Japanese boards.
Well "dumb" as in I don't think he'd be a very good choice, nothing against the people voting for him though.
I just think it'd be weird for him to get in now despite not appearing in a mainline donkey kong game since the N64. If he was to appear in a new game DK game as the main villain in the next few years? Then sure, great, throw him in Smash 5. But as of now if there's gonna be any new DK rep Dixie seems like the better choice.
Yeah, 35 Nintendo exclusives is pretty amazing, plus this little gem:
I actually never played this one? O: How is it?
Makes me sad and why I poured my heart into this one.
Crownjo
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It's really fun. If you have a Super Game Boy you can play multiplayer on one screen. I have the carts!
Yeah, but that's an anime. It's not predominantly a gaming franchise, or one that has a home on Nintendo formats, so I feel Goku shouldn't be included into consideration.
Inkling, Captain Toad, BoxBoy (yes, really
) and Bomberman are my picks.WiiRevolution1
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theres nothing insane about it. Both are great characters and franchises. An insane vote would be something not known for its games like Goku, or my personal most wanted character The Witch from The Witch's House who hasn't even appeared on a Nintendo system and horror character completely clashes with Smash but its still someone I want in Smash or a eventual Smash Indie mashup.
Shovel Knight and Shantae fit right in. Lots of great indie characters can fit right in. I really don't think Sakurai would be against indie characters if theres enough demand and he likes said character.
So what? Its Smash, anything can happen. Your just dismissing them just for the sake of it.
And its my personal opinion that Shovel Knight is better than all games from all three of the Smash third parties combined. There I said it.
its more along the lines that most characters that are really wanted are already in the game. For popular 1st party characters for DLC or Smash 5 theres Inklings, Toad/Captain Toad, Paper Mario
And for most wanted characters theres Ridley, KRool or Dixie, and maybe Wonder Red. Of course theres tons of other characters alot of people including myself wants from 1st parties but at the moment, I feel that these are likely the only ones with a chance
Another thing is alot of people have wanted these for so long that they've just become boring additions because its been so long without them. Thats how I feel with Dixie. Wanted her in for years but after awhile I just got tired of being excited for her being in. I think some of us are more behind Shovel Knight and Shantae because they are new wants and feel fresh or something. I feel like I butchered this paragraph. >_>
smh. "Represent" is so the biggest fanboy argument ever. Skry be like "can't be helped with children".
Haha, I honestly can't tell if people are serious anymore when they say they want Goku. I love Goku and Dragon Ball, but he's not Smash Bros. material.
He's right though.
Although not official (apparently), I'm glad that Krystal is almost at the top of the US list, and the second place on the JP one.
KRYSTAL FOR SMASH!
JB-the-Hunter
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The "Konami 3" is not Simon, not Bomberman and especially not fucking Goemon. The Konami 3 is Snake, Snake, and Snaaaake. Snake is by far Konami's biggest character. Those other 3 aren't even close to being in the league of Sonic, Pac-Man and Mega Man. Bomberman is a homeless man's Mega Man, Simon is the Marth of Castlevania... and that's not a good thing for a third party character, and Goemon (lol), you can't even find that series on the highest grossing franchises of all time list, and it's a long list that includes the likes of Turok and Twisted Metal towards the bottom. Nobody that doesn't frequent Neogaf knows who the hell Goemon is.
IMO the only third party characters whose company hasn't already had a character in Smash that are in the league of (or close to) Sonic, Pac-Man, Mega Man and Snake are:
Rayman (Ubisoft)
Crash Bandicoot (Activision)
Cloud or Lara Croft (Square-Enix)
Scorpion (WB)
Not that all of those characters would fit in the game, but those are the only super famous third party characters from mega lucrative series that represent their companies.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
FYI there's no official poll results so far, as these are all fabrications.
It's mostly an old running joke thanks to posts like this from miiverse during the early development of Smash 4:
Black-Wind
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Ya know, I feel like I grow every time Smash character debates pop up (which is normally around the time a new smash pops up...). I must say, the negativity that sparks these debates will always confuse me.
Support what you will, I say!
No Character is as iconic as the current 3rd party picks. I mean, think about it. We (the fans) had to waste a poll getting Sonic into brawl because it never dawned on him that everyone would want Sonic once the 3rd party gates opened up. Same for MM ... and Pacman got in cause Miyamoto has a hard on for the thing and asked iirc. I can't think of any others that are as Iconic as them ... but I can think of tons who would fit right into the Nintendo stable.
I understand that people like to appear to make rational points when they disagree but no, this is an open poll (OPEN! The rules said nothing about originating in games or being on a Nintendo con this time) and if a ton of people can band together and get their character noticed by him then that's just grand in my book. And the beautiful thing is ... some of these smaller companies are actually CAMPAIGNING for their character! If an indie game can top the polls (the real poll, not this fake shit people keep posting ..), catch the man's eye and get in then that's just wonderful.
Not just a video game character, but I argue it should be a video game character with a decent history on Nintendo formats
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Deleted member 74300
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I'm sorry, as much as the Paper Mario games are really good it's just a damn waste to have 3 Marios (4 if you somehow count Luigi) in the same game. Intelligence System stuff got enough love.It's time for some Camelot stuff besides Waluigi. Golden Sun got jipped hard in this game and the last one so it's time to fix that.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
If Goku gets in and not Naruto I'm quitting video games.
EDIT: Fuck the roster yo the game needs more assist trophies.
EDIT 2: And less shit stages.
EDIT: Fuck the roster yo the game needs more assist trophies.
EDIT 2: And less shit stages.
No way they're gonna show 5 or more characters imo. I can see Wolfs reveal alongside Starfox. Or another one and Wolf reveal will be near Starfox launch
and Wonder Red trailer
Yeah 5 probably is a bit generous, especially if they're doing the cinematic trailers again. But they'll want to make a big deal out of revealing ballot results I think, I could see them doing 3.
Come to think of it, are there any decent Mario Party characters? I need some Mario Party love in Smash, especially since it doesn't have a stage.
Bumper Ball Mario?
Well, ballot is running til October. So I'm pretty sure we're not going to see a character out of it. I'd love to be wrong, though
DoctorFling
Member
In terms of relevance to Nintendo though, Bomberman and Simon Belmont are way bigger than Snake. Also, I think 'a homeless man's Mega Man' is a strange description of a character whose games are nothing like Mega Man.
Go for Wonder Red first, first party = less of a hassle to include.
MaverickHunterAsh
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No one is voting for Shantae and/or Shovel Knight out of a misguided opinion that they or their games are as big, far-reaching, or relevant to Nintendo and gaming at large as Sonic, Mega Man, and Pac-Man. Obviously they aren't, despite their excellent quality. They are voting for Shantae and Shovel Knight because they like those characters and their games and would like to see them join the roster of playable characters in Smash. It's as simple as that.
No, really - it actually is as simple as that. I don't see how something as painfully clear as "Vote and tell us which character you would like to see added to Smash!" has been twisted and blown out of proportion by so many people. It literally is as straightforward as voting for the character(s) you would like to see added to the roster; there's nothing else to it. Arguments about a character's "deservedness" or first-party vs. third-party or wasted votes vs. useful votes or indie vs. mainstream or anything else don't enter into it.
Just vote for the character you want to see in Smash most. That is literally it.
Also, while it is admittedly unlikely no matter how well they perform in the poll, I don't think Shantae or Shovel Knight being added to the roster is completely impossible. Again, I admit that it's probably not going to happen, but it honestly isn't impossible - and if it isn't, then the people who want to see those characters in the roster should vote for them.
woopWOOP
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Part of me always hoped the Goku requests would be interpreted like that by Sakurai.
New challenger approaching by massive requests!
The fallout would be amazing (also he'd probably make a fun fighter with his extendable pole and such)
Outside of my gut feeling of Wolf in August, I don't think any other character has been chosen yet.
Well I reckon Goku won by a mile before the poll even started. If the the first announced character isn't him then we'll both know how legit it is.
They said video game characters, so that instantly rules out Goku (who, let's be honest, most people are voting as a joke).
King K. Rool is owning the poll right now, so I could see Sakurai prematurely adding him in October. Of course there's also room for the likes of Inkling, Wonder Red (both 2nd & 3rd in the US Poll estimates) as well as Krystal & Dixie (2nd & 4th in the Japanese Poll estimates).
I didn't mention Ridley, who's 3rd in the estimate for the Japanese Poll because Sakurai already tried & failed to make him playable.
That's why I said estimates. They certainly aren't official, but they're best we can go on right now.
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