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SMD and Player Essence on Nintendo NX Rumors

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I failed to see what these guys had to offer in terms of insight or exclusive information. It is no better than the myriad NX threads and probably a little bit worse :P
 
Well, if the NVIDIA rumors are true, I'm thinking that the NX will end up being more like a XB1- instead of a Wii U+ In performance.

Here is what I mean:

- It can use modern engines like UE4, but with adjusted settings. Can use efficent tessellation and other features that the Wii U can't use that well.

- Can take advantage of FP16 to increase it's actual capability VS raw power (XB1 and PS4 can't do this.)

- Much more modern and powerful CPU that will help it match or surpass the others in AI and other CPU task.
Sure, not knocking the Handheld's reported specs. Should be much easier to develop for than Wii U.
 
It seems after that marketing doc leaked that SMD gave info on Nintendo just shut down completely and nothing has gotten out since then

I wonder what happened to the person who leaked the info, and how much fear Nintendo must've put in everyone else for literally nothing to get out
 
It seems after that marketing doc leaked that SMD gave info on Nintendo just shut down completely and nothing has gotten out since then

I wonder what happened to the person who leaked the info, and how much fear Nintendo must've put in everyone else for literally nothing to get out

Well the last we heard was that SMD gave that person up to Nintendo so...
 
It seems after that marketing doc leaked that SMD gave info on Nintendo just shut down completely and nothing has gotten out since then

I wonder what happened to the person who leaked the info, and how much fear Nintendo must've put in everyone else for literally nothing to get out
In a previous thread we heard that SMD ratted out his source despite not having to and the source got fired.
Though you raise a good point. Nintendo had an awful year or two full of leaks where basically everything got out. Seems like they managed to get things under control somewhat
 
Honestly, there's no point listening to anything these guys have to say.

SuperMetalDave in particular has, in all likelihood, been under the watchful eyes of the Nintendo ninjas ever since he got his one big break, and when they visited he broke down and spilled his guts. Nintendo even made him backtrack on videos and rumors unrelated to his leak.

If Dave was actually spilling accurate info right now (ESPECIALLY given that it's contrary to the popularly accepted Eurogamer leak), I feel like he'd have already gotten another visit and been shut down again. Because make no mistake, he IS still being monitored.

EDIT: Basically, if SMD is out there saying anything right now, I have a pretty strong suspicion that it's bull, because he's not "under the radar" anymore and he's already had lawyers at his house once.

DOUBLE EDIT: Also wouldn't be the first time SMD has distributed outright misinformation since he was caught.
 
I like this video a lot. Why? Because this is how an all-in bluff looks like. There's no backing out of this. There's no "the console will come later" stick possible anymore. When Nintendo will show their hand everybody will have to face it there and then.

Good luck SMD64, PE and HNF!
 
It seems after that marketing doc leaked that SMD gave info on Nintendo just shut down completely and nothing has gotten out since then

I wonder what happened to the person who leaked the info, and how much fear Nintendo must've put in everyone else for literally nothing to get out

Based on some rumblings on GAF, I got the impression they were identified by SMD and then fired (but not sued, I think?) by Nintendo.
 
Just curious - has there been any indication from Nvidia's side (i.e., outside of the writers stating that their sources said so) that their chips are going be in the NX?

Not that I know of. I do believe they had a presentation a little while back about their chips in the Nvidia Shield. That could be wrong too, I'm sure one of the usual NX discussion people will correct me on this.

They haven't been open about gaming design wins like AMD has iirc though.
 
Well the last we heard was that SMD gave that person up to Nintendo so...

In a previous thread we heard that SMD ratted out his source despite not having to and the source got fired.
Though you raise a good point. Nintendo had an awful year or two full of leaks where basically everything got out. Seems like they managed to get things under control somewhat

Jesus christ...
 
Can anyone summarise the video? Can't watch at the moment.
 
Eurogamer will lost all the trust if nothing is announce in september or the NX is different from thier report. The article says like they are 100% sure, as a rumour you shouldn't start a article with:

"Nintendo's upcoming NX will be a portable, handheld console with detachable controllers..."
 
I saw this image posted on a gaming forum, do you guys know where it comes from?
(sorry if it's old material)

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Eurogamer will lost all the trust if nothing is announce in september or the NX is different from thier report. The article says like they are 100% sure, as a rumour you shouldn't start a article with:

"Nintendo's upcoming NX will be a portable, handheld console with detachable controllers..."
Don't other publications (like IGN) say they confirmed with their sources the exact same thing?
 
I can't wait till we can stop talking about the NX. I want to be able to talk about what the console actually is.
Then the internet can move from speculation and move on to hating it.

I'm bored of all this NX talk. I'm kind of sick of the thing and it hasn't even been revealed yet.

At this point, I lost interest in NX. The endless speculations and the never coming reveal date got me to almost hate NX.
See?

I saw this image posted on a gaming forum, do you guys know where it comes from?
(sorry if it's old material)

Seems too easy to fake stuff now. Besides, Link looks like he's running yet he's not using the circle pads.
 
I saw this image posted on a gaming forum, do you guys know where it comes from?
(sorry if it's old material)

1474840006-1474837388541.jpg

It's fake, from 4chan (saw it on a thread on Twitter) and is interesting. There would have to be a solid mechanism in the middle of the controller because that mould would make the controller feel like it is caving in. Especially if it is (and likely will be ) plastic.
 
I can definitely do a psychological report on GAF's stages of denial before the announcement of the NX for my psychology class.

I'd definitely get a A out of it.
 
Yeah, they did.

But didn't some sites say they heared that the controller of the NX (before the hybrid rumors started) looks exactly like the fake 3D print? :P
An editor from GameInformer said on Twitter that a lack of buttons matched rumors they heard. They never ran a story or anything claiming the fake to be legit.
 
lol GAF hates these guys so much for not just having an opinion, but having opinions that are based on their own research and information.

I don't agree with all their speculation but them and Happy Nintendo Fan are some of the most interesting people to listen to the speculation of right now because they critically think about all this and I can't say that same about all the speculation I read and hear.

AMD could be a wild goose chase but it's still plausible if a console is part of the NX. DMP seems very plausible. Nvidia could be possible (ARM seems likely in general if they are going the handheld route as the core of the NX) but there are lot of good reasons why that isn't the final chip in the NX.

Some people just can't take people questioning the info we get. Same thing happened when we got those 3D printed controllers.

I don't think Eurogamer is 100% wrong (cartridges seem very likely and merging of handheld and console features seems likely in some capacity) I don't think everything they've told us will pan out in the final system.
 
Eurogamer will lost all the trust if nothing is announce in september or the NX is different from thier report. The article says like they are 100% sure, as a rumour you shouldn't start a article with:

"Nintendo's upcoming NX will be a portable, handheld console with detachable controllers..."

Don't other publications (like IGN) say they confirmed with their sources the exact same thing?

This is why people are taking the Eurogamer leak seriously. It isn't some semi-trusted source on twitter. It isn't a couple of nobodies whose fansites see upwards of ten whole visitors a week.

One of the largest and most widely respected gaming news publications out there pretty much put their entire reputation on the line by saying that this is exactly what NX is. Not reporting a rumor, not saying it was possible, they proclaimed it as fact, based on sources. Then, yes, other publications (AND twitter peeps) confirmed it with their sources. If Eurogamer is wrong, their credibility and that of some other sites will be in the tank, and that's people's ACTUAL CAREERS being harmed.

This, compared to two or three dudes who ran fansites vying to be internet famous, and who when proven wrong will simply disappear back to their actual day jobs with no real damage to their personal or professional lives.

Gee, and I wonder why we don't listen when PlayerEssence and SMD ask why we would listen to the big sites.

But didn't some sites say they heared that the controller of the NX (before the hybrid rumors started) looks exactly like the fake 3D print? :P

No. A couple of insiders said people weren't happy about it getting so much attention (which didn't mean it was real), and I believe somebody at IGN or Gamespot said that it jived with a couple of things they'd heard, but nobody came out and said "yes, this is real, this is what NX is".
 
Eurogamer will lost all the trust if nothing is announce in september or the NX is different from thier report. The article says like they are 100% sure, as a rumour you shouldn't start a article with:

"Nintendo's upcoming NX will be a portable, handheld console with detachable controllers..."

I don't think they'll lose trust if the date is wrong.

However, if they get the form factor and/or chips wrong...
 
lol GAF hates these guys so much for not just having an opinion, but having opinions that are based on their own research and information.

I don't agree with all their speculation but them and Happy Nintendo Fan are some of the most interesting people to listen to the speculation of right now because they critically think about all this and I can't say that same about all the speculation I read and hear.

AMD could be a wild goose chase but it's still plausible if a console is part of the NX. DMP seems very plausible. Nvidia could be possible (ARM seems likely in general if they are going the handheld route as the core of the NX) but there are lot of good reasons why that isn't the final chip in the NX.

Some people just can't take people questioning the info we get. Same thing happened when we got those 3D printed controllers.

I don't think Eurogamer is 100% wrong (cartridges seem very likely and merging of handheld and console features seems likely in some capacity) I don't think everything they've told us will pan out in the final system.

No. Having an opinion is fine, but when you release videos looking to dismiss EG report as false and claiming speculation as fact, then you deserve any criticism that comes your way. Sharing opinion based on research is fine, but don't do so in an authoritative manner. At that point it no longer sounds like opinion, since you are presenting it as fact. Research is good. Speculation is good. Sharing these things to form an opinion and presenting them as truths or fact isn't a good thing.
 
lol GAF hates these guys so much for not just having an opinion, but having opinions that are based on their own research and information.

I don't agree with all their speculation but them and Happy Nintendo Fan are some of the most interesting people to listen to the speculation of right now because they critically think about all this and I can't say that same about all the speculation I read and hear.

AMD could be a wild goose chase but it's still plausible if a console is part of the NX. DMP seems very plausible. Nvidia could be possible (ARM seems likely in general if they are going the handheld route as the core of the NX) but there are lot of good reasons why that isn't the final chip in the NX.

Some people just can't take people questioning the info we get. Same thing happened when we got those 3D printed controllers.

I don't think Eurogamer is 100% wrong (cartridges seem very likely and merging of handheld and console features seems likely in some capacity) I don't think everything they've told us will pan out in the final system.

Sorry, but Happy Nintendo Fan and rational/critical can't feature in the same phrase at all, considering what he's been spouting for the past few months.
 
Don't other publications (like IGN) say they confirmed with their sources the exact same thing?

Jose Otero said on an NVC podcast that they hear briefly from a secondhand source that there would be some sort of detachable controller.

He said they never ran that story because that was all the info they had heard, that was the only source that even mentioned that, and it was a secondhand source.

Seemed sketchy to me, especially since IGN was the only outlet that explicitly said they confirmed that bit after the Eurogamer rumors.
 
lol GAF hates these guys so much for not just having an opinion, but having opinions that are based on their own research and information.

I don't agree with all their speculation but them and Happy Nintendo Fan are some of the most interesting people to listen to the speculation of right now because they critically think about all this and I can't say that same about all the speculation I read and hear.

AMD could be a wild goose chase but it's still plausible if a console is part of the NX. DMP seems very plausible. Nvidia could be possible (ARM seems likely in general if they are going the handheld route as the core of the NX) but there are lot of good reasons why that isn't the final chip in the NX.

Some people just can't take people questioning the info we get. Same thing happened when we got those 3D printed controllers.

I don't think Eurogamer is 100% wrong (cartridges seem very likely and merging of handheld and console features seems likely in some capacity) I don't think everything they've told us will pan out in the final system.

I trust Eurogamer way more than people who are only known for speculating on NX and actively deny rumors that go against their desired idea for the NX.
 
I don't even want to imagine a reality where Eurogamer ends up being wrong and some random individuals end up being right....

That would be one heck of a sight to see.

Edit: Don't get me wrong I have more faith in Eurogamers rumors, but if they're wrong things will turn ugly.
 
Eurogamer will lost all the trust if nothing is announce in september or the NX is different from thier report. The article says like they are 100% sure, as a rumour you shouldn't start a article with:

"Nintendo's upcoming NX will be a portable, handheld console with detachable controllers..."

Look, I know you've been trying with all your forces to dismiss the entire Eurogamer articles just by looking at the reveal period and saying "Well, duh, it's like math! 1+1=2, so of course if the reveal date is wrong, EVERYTHING IS WRONG11!!11!!", but stuff like the reveal date is pretty volatile: it can change very easily, depending on conditions. Not the same for specs and major featurs of the platform, especially this near to the announced release period (March) and when it's backed by so many reliable outlets officially.
 
Is this the first system that is suppose to launch in 6 months and we literally have 0 information on it?
Wasn't Xbox One revealed in May?

The issue here comes from how powerful MS's console was going to be, but it would follow the standard PC progression. NX has been teased as an odd machine and coming out from Wii U makes it more interesting.
 
Ah, the SMD Defense Force is crawling out from their caves.

That's because SMD is correct and all the rumors make 0 sense but hey we will see when it is shown right either A its gonna be what the rumors said and that will be a big disappointment or B it will be completely different and it could be for the better.
 
That's because SMD is correct and all the rumors make 0 sense but hey we will see when it is shown right either A its gonna be what the rumors said and that will be a big disappointment or B it will be completely different and it could be for the better.

I-I'm deeply sorry, I have to :P

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No. Having an opinion is fine, but when you release videos looking to dismiss EG report as false and claiming speculation as fact, then you deserve any criticism that comes your way. Sharing opinion based on research is fine, but don't do so in an authoritative manner. At that point it no longer sounds like opinion, since you are presenting it as fact. Research is good. Speculation is good. Sharing these things to form an opinion and presenting them as truths or fact isn't a good thing.
They don't claim to be insiders so I don't get where this idea of them stating opinions as facts.
 
We got 5 hours to go
We got 5 hours to know
Cause if you want some clues
About potental NX news
There might be 5 hours or so to go
But I will actually say anything, oh no
Will it even be anything, oh no
Cos saying something iffy
Gives me a bit of a stiffy
So I'll randomly say there's 5 hours to go
Is this even based on facts, oh no
But will you be able to relax, oh no
So before there's lots of contention
Yes, I'm doing this for attention
So remember there's 5 hours to go
 
Honestly, there's no point listening to anything these guys have to say.

SuperMetalDave in particular has, in all likelihood, been under the watchful eyes of the Nintendo ninjas ever since he got his one big break, and when they visited he broke down and spilled his guts. Nintendo even made him backtrack on videos and rumors unrelated to his leak.

If Dave was actually spilling accurate info right now (ESPECIALLY given that it's contrary to the popularly accepted Eurogamer leak), I feel like he'd have already gotten another visit and been shut down again. Because make no mistake, he IS still being monitored.

EDIT: Basically, if SMD is out there saying anything right now, I have a pretty strong suspicion that it's bull, because he's not "under the radar" anymore and he's already had lawyers at his house once.

DOUBLE EDIT: Also wouldn't be the first time SMD has distributed outright misinformation since he was caught.
You're not doing yourself any favours here.
 
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