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So about Red Dead Redemption 2 Honest Opinion..

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So this is probably going to be an unpopular opinion but it's something I need to get of my chest.

I remember playing Red Dead Revolver and loving that game.

Then Red Dead Redemption came out but for some reason I never had interest or desire to play it.

Then RDR2 got announced and it looked absolutely insane. I bought the game really cheap after a few months, played for 20 minutes and never touched it again.

So I will explain my issue with the game.

I understand why its so loved and I will agree that it is a very impressive game from the visual standpoint and realism from the videos I've seen. However, the first hour or so was so extremely slow for me and the awkward controls really turned me off.

So dear gaf tell me, and flame me if you wish but am I really missing out here? Should I give this game another chance? It's just a pet peeve of mine when games present you with many mechanics and controls that are just strange to get adjusted too. Also, the build up of the game in the snowy area for me just was not fun.

Does anyone else feel same way or share same sentiment? Is it really one of the best games ever? Do tell Gaf.
 

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You should stick with it at least a little longer as the story is really fantastic overall, maybe even (subjective of course) one of the greatest ever told in a video game.

Gameplay doesn’t really get that much better though, typical R* where you are supposed to do exactly what the game wants you to do and nothing else. Still has good missions but feels limited.
 

mortal

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Gaming, like any other form of entertainment, is largely subjective.

If it didn't meet your expectations that's completely fine too, you're not obligated to like something just because it's revered or popular.
Most you can do is try it out once, give it another chance if you're willing, or just move on to other games you'd enjoy more.

Don't see much point in wrestling with yourself about it lol
 

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I'm pretty sure your unpopular opinion is extremely popular. RDR2 is slow as fuck in all aspects, from the animation to the story.

I quit the game halfway through and considered it beaten. I actually enjoyed my time with it, but I had no patience for another 15 hours or so of playtime.

The game is a masterpiece, though. I envy those who managed to play through the whole thing.
 

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That's totally fine by me. I can see how a game like that feels longwinded.

I guess it kind of works for me, because I really do get immersed. I do actually put myself in the setting and place and start enjoying experiencing someone else's life and time-period. I've found my imagination has always been why I enjoy slower games. And I'm not saying you lack one either. For ie, a lot of my friends love role-playing in games or dnd, but I just can't get my imagination or desire to come along for it. It does nothing for me.

Ironically I put off RDR2 for so long because people said how long and tedious it is, but I should have just listened to my gut, because I didn't mind getting side-tracked picking a horse, walking into town, or updating my weapons.

Remember there is nothing wrong with your gaming preferences. Don't apologize for them and always be true to yourself. Life is too short to play a game you feel you should enjoy when you really don't 😆
 

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The only complaint I have with the game is the law/wanted system. I wish it was a bit more realistic in that you could kill a guy in the middle of nowhere and not have some random NPC passerby find you out and report you, then have endless swarms of lawmen after you at all times. I've been waiting for a more realistic wanted level mod, but it's always just "turn it off or have it maxed out".

It's definitely a game that takes a while to get really "going" though. I'd say 2nd camp (outside of the prologue) is where it hit satisfying freedom/enough of the game open to really get a feel for what they were trying to do. If you already own it and are bored, give it another try.
 

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Yeah the introduction is kinda slow I guess, and some of the missions has a fucked up fail detector system that tend to induce anger.. But other than that it's a stellar game that everyone should experience, it's a tour de force of videogames and is in my top list of experiences. Also there's plenty of zen and exploration just roaming around, the attention to detail is insane. Stick with it.

Edit: Wait, 20 minutes..? wtf
 
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It is a slow paced game and the controls could be better but if that doesn't bother you and you are into story based and realistic open world games it is great. I had no issues with any of it and even liked the first chapter. I don't mind a slow burn and setting the stage for the rest of the game.
 
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I found my enjoyment with the game by blitzing the story missions. Those were very good and after the slow start they did keep it all entertaining throughout. Originally after the long introduction I had free roamed and didn’t enjoy that at all. I only tend to play for an hour or 2 at a time and unless you are taking on the story missions, it doesn’t feel like you gain too much with that kind of time playing.

Good game overall. Some nice surprises, some good drama. A decent story worth playing imo.
 

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For me, the game is much more of an experience rather than a "game". Sometimes I would just ride my horse around and listen to the ambiance for an hour. Sometimes I'd go fishing or hunting and then set up camp so that I could wake up and make some coffee the next morning. I bet you'd find that extremely boring and wonder why the fuck I find enjoyment in that. Well, sorry, I can't explain it, partner.

 

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RDR is in my top ten games of all time and I put RDR 2 down after ~15 hours due to frustrations with many aspects. I was going to give it a go on PC at 60fps + with mods to remove the things I hated but decided to wait until I have a futuristic rig (As far as RDR 2 is concerned) and play at 4K60 "max" (probably not even then, like with GTA V's "ultra grass" lol) to alleviate input lag a little bit.

I know from a video its still terrible on PC at 60hz though, like 300-400ms in some scenarios, you can't fix this by playing at 240hz because its the animation/engine thats adding a huge marjority of the lag. Its my biggest gaming letdown I'd say but hey ho its only a game eh, there was so much I loved about it, such a masterpiece of visual design generally but if you are constantly having your fun really hampered I don't think even the most impressive game (in that regard) can keep you interested.

I would spend hours hunting and it would be all for naught due to some random encounter losing me the hides/skins or I would get into a loop of getting the law on me and once that happened for 45 mins straight and I just turned it off and didn't go back to it. I really tried to take it slow and easy from the start and not be reckless and I was having a blast doing the treasure maps. Then when I started trying to hunt the frustrations set in, gave up on that after a while and then I tried to focus on the missions and got into a law breaking loop.

So dear gaf tell me, and flame me if you wish but am I really missing out here? Should I give this game another chance? It's just a pet peeve of mine when games present you with many mechanics and controls that are just strange to get adjusted too. Also, the build up of the game in the snowy area for me just was not fun.

 
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So this is probably going to be an unpopular opinion but it's something I need to get of my chest.

I remember playing Red Dead Revolver and loving that game.

Then Red Dead Redemption came out but for some reason I never had interest or desire to play it.

Then RDR2 got announced and it looked absolutely insane. I bought the game really cheap after a few months, played for 20 minutes and never touched it again.

So I will explain my issue with the game.

I understand why its so loved and I will agree that it is a very impressive game from the visual standpoint and realism from the videos I've seen. However, the first hour or so was so extremely slow for me and the awkward controls really turned me off.

So dear gaf tell me, and flame me if you wish but am I really missing out here? Should I give this game another chance? It's just a pet peeve of mine when games present you with many mechanics and controls that are just strange to get adjusted too. Also, the build up of the game in the snowy area for me just was not fun.

Does anyone else feel same way or share same sentiment? Is it really one of the best games ever? Do tell Gaf.

7/10 game at best. Finished it and the game was extremely easy, story was cringy as well. To much horse running like 80% of the whole game, cheap filler.
 

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So dear gaf tell me, and flame me if you wish but am I really missing out here? Should I give this game another chance? It's just a pet peeve of mine when games present you with many mechanics and controls that are just strange to get adjusted too. Also, the build up of the game in the snowy area for me just was not fun.

Does anyone else feel same way or share same sentiment? Is it really one of the best games ever? Do tell Gaf.
My assessment of the game goes something like this:

Production: Off the charts, everything from graphics, animation, to soundtrack and acting is one of the best in the industry.

Story: Pretty good, but also very bloated.

Gameplay: Horrible.
"It's just a pet peeve of mine when games present you with many mechanics and controls that are just strange to get adjusted too"
It'll become even worse with loads and loads of unnecessary system and controls, terrible mission design, bad controls, etc. For me its the biggest smudge in a game that could've been otherwise great.
 
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It plays like a bad game that was designed 20 years ago. I think you won't lose anything not playing it.
 

Woggleman

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It actually is like an old school type of western epic in game form. If that sounds appealing to you then keep playing but if not then maybe it isn't for you.
 
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RDR2 is amazing at almost everything except for the one thing that makes games fun, controlling the character. Rockstar started this trend with GTAIV and made it cumbersome to control the characters and RDR2 just amplifies how shit it feels to control Arthur.

Outside of this and the constant riding between missions, it’s incredible. The atmosphere is unmatched and the detail is truly amazing.

Too bad that it feels like shit to actually play the game for the most part. I forced myself to finish the game and even though I loved the story and characters, I can’t say it was fun.
 

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The total absence of actual freedom to complete missions made the game feel extremely artificial to me, and definitely feels outdated as compared to the rest which is absolutely state of the art. Big turn off, as far as I'm concerned.
 

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The controls are dogshit and the missions are ULTRA linear and borderline on-rail shooter at times. But the open world is beautiful, the voice acting and motion capture is amazing and the attention to detail is immaculate.
 
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The first play through I enjoyed it, but because of the bad controls and awkward movement/positioning stuff I just haven't been able to go back to it. Rockstar games always moved a little janky, but its almostl ike the beauty of how everything looks clashes with the lack of smooth animation or something.

Amazing characters and locations though
 

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I got a $100 deluxe edition of some sort as a birthday gift. This was the first RDR (and Rockstar) game I played, and I went in totally blind. I didn't like being a criminal arbitrarily killing innocents so I only got about 2 hours into the game before setting it down. The last thing I want to be in the old west is an outlaw.

I feel bad that such a thoughtful gift went to waste, but this game isn't for me.
 
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Swoopsail

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RDR2 is amazing at almost everything except for the one thing that makes games fun, controlling the character. Rockstar started this trend with GTAIV and made it cumbersome to control the characters and RDR2 just amplifies how shit it feels to control Arthur.

Outside of this and the constant riding between missions, it’s incredible. The atmosphere is unmatched and the detail is truly amazing.

Too bad that it feels like shit to actually play the game for the most part. I forced myself to finish the game and even though I loved the story and characters, I can’t say it was fun.
Yea Rockstar really seems to enjoy a physics system where you have the unstoppable momentum of a hippopotamus.
 

Woggleman

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Days Gone is better in pretty much every aspect.
RDR1 is better in story and gameplay too.
A lot of people are just forcing themselves to like it cause it’s a Rockstar game, if it were any other dev it would have been forgotten already.
I didn't force myself to like anything. I didn't even like GTA V much but RDR2 besides some control issues is everything an open world should be.
 
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Red Dead Redemption was one of my favorite games ever. I tried 4 times to get through RDR2, but as you said... those controls are just awful. I tried, and I still want to finish the game, but Rockstar needs to get their mechanics out of 2001
 
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The only way I was able to muster up the strength for this one was with a looming gamepass delisting. It definitely added because the real game ended up being optimisation of the slow ass game. I thought Death Stranding was good because it actually makes a game out of this play style.

And you know what, it endes up being pretty good. You have to force yourself to play fast, clear the map, and avoid side tasks that will make it feel worse than it already does.
 

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I really missing out here?
I think you do but I can totally understand why people leave it be.

Initially I played until chapter 2, did a break for several months, picked it up occasionally and I couldn't put it down after arriving at chapter 4. The characters and the character story is soooo damn good. The whole world, immersion and attention to detail is really something else and still unmatched by any other open world game. It comes with a price, though.

It's really a shame it doesn't play like a modern TPS because I'd love to play it again on PC with better visuals and FPS and I tried, but the controls and animations make it a slog to play again. The first time was great, though.

If it's too bad for you, you could watch it on YouTube. It's quite an epic story so it takes many hours but might still be an alternative for playing.
 
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kiphalfton

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So this is probably going to be an unpopular opinion but it's something I need to get of my chest.

I remember playing Red Dead Revolver and loving that game.

Then Red Dead Redemption came out but for some reason I never had interest or desire to play it.

Then RDR2 got announced and it looked absolutely insane. I bought the game really cheap after a few months, played for 20 minutes and never touched it again.

So I will explain my issue with the game.

I understand why its so loved and I will agree that it is a very impressive game from the visual standpoint and realism from the videos I've seen. However, the first hour or so was so extremely slow for me and the awkward controls really turned me off.

So dear gaf tell me, and flame me if you wish but am I really missing out here? Should I give this game another chance? It's just a pet peeve of mine when games present you with many mechanics and controls that are just strange to get adjusted too. Also, the build up of the game in the snowy area for me just was not fun.

Does anyone else feel same way or share same sentiment? Is it really one of the best games ever? Do tell Gaf.

You're contradicting yourself. You said you played for 20 minutes or so, then alludes to playing for an hour or so. Which is it.

In any case, whether it's 20 minutes or an hour or so... that really isn't enough time to base a game on.
 
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I'm glad somebody else loves Red Dead Revolver. Although it's very different from the later Red Dead games.

I enjoyed them all, but I think I enjoyed Red Dead 1 a little bit more than 2, because I was more invested in John Marston mostly.
 
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The only complaint I have with the game is the law/wanted system. I wish it was a bit more realistic in that you could kill a guy in the middle of nowhere and not have some random NPC passerby find you out and report you, then have endless swarms of lawmen after you at all times. I've been waiting for a more realistic wanted level mod, but it's always just "turn it off or have it maxed out".

It's definitely a game that takes a while to get really "going" though. I'd say 2nd camp (outside of the prologue) is where it hit satisfying freedom/enough of the game open to really get a feel for what they were trying to do. If you already own it and are bored, give it another try.
You CAN do exactly what you say. If you're deep in the wilderness wait for a moment when there are no other people around, do your thing then drag them off the road and hide them in a bush. You'll never get a wanted level that way. It's much better than GTA 5 where a freaking bird can report you to the police. I've tested this and had a pile of corpses and never got a wanted level.
 
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Good for you. Some like brain dead linear stuff, some enjoy player freedom and expression. Likely there are games to satisfy both of these needs.

Open mission design is repetitive, lazy. Easy copy and paste objectives. Go here and kill these guys. Where is the innovation? It requires no creativity whatsoever. There is a publisher called Ubisoft who makes these games. They should he your favorite publisher. I heard they make a open world game nearly every year, though I am not surprised because it requires no effort, no wonder they can do it so quickly. Every new game is a Far Cry 3 reskin.

Rockstar Games are critically acclaimed unlike Ubisoft games and Sell 10X more than Ubisoft games. Don’t tell industry leading developers how to make their games. Linear mission design is more engaging, has actual pacing and Requires Original thinking.
 

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Normally I could forgive gameplay faults for an amazing story and "experience" but RDR2 was too far down the bad gameplay route and the story was doing nothing for me

I put in at least 20-30 hours and just found the story meandering and boring. Maybe if you love cowboy lore you enjoy it alot more

I appreciated the level of detail. My favourite thing in the game was just going off path and creating my own adventure. I went "mountain hiking" and ended up finding a canoe you could actually get in and use and I ended up traversing some rapids which I thought was great. Normally such things are just props in games

But overall the gameplay was just too clunky for me. I feel like they could have taken some lessons from TLOU years before in balancing "realistic"/"weighty" with still being responsive
 
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If it's not for you, it's not for you.

Why try to force yourself to like something just because others do? That's weird and speaks to an unhealthy need for your gaming tastes to be validated by others.
 
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Open mission design is repetitive, lazy. Easy copy and paste objectives. Go here and kill these guys. Where is the innovation? It requires no creativity whatsoever. There is a publisher called Ubisoft who makes these games. They should he your favorite publisher. I heard they make a open world game nearly every year, though I am not surprised because it requires no effort, no wonder they can do it so quickly. Every new game is a Far Cry 3 reskin.

Rockstar Games are critically acclaimed unlike Ubisoft games and Sell 10X more than Ubisoft games. Don’t tell industry leading developers how to make their games. Linear mission design is more engaging, has actual pacing and Requires Original thinking.

Why are you obsessed with Ubisoft? French did something to you? Jesus.

When I say freedom and player expression in mission design I mean games like Deus Ex not a fucking Far Cry 3.

Your last sentence is utter nonsense. Thanks for the laugh. Don’t reply, Im not interested in what you have to say.
 

Woggleman

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You CAN do exactly what you say. If you're deep in the wilderness wait for a moment when there are no other people around, do your thing then drag them off the road and hide them in a bush. You'll never get a wanted level that way. It's much better than GTA 5 where a freaking bird can report you to the police. I've tested this and had a pile of corpses and never got a wanted level.
Very true. If you kill somebody and nobody else is around to see it you are scott free. If you kill a witness then you can get away with it. It is fun playing serial killer out in the wild.
 

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I didn't like being a criminal arbitrarily killing innocents so I only got about 2 hours into the game before setting it down. The last thing I want to be in the old west is an outlaw.
The game does not force you to be a criminal. Maybe if you played more than 2 hours, you'd understand why the word 'Redemption' is in the title.
 

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Open mission design is repetitive, lazy. Easy copy and paste objectives. Go here and kill these guys. Where is the innovation? It requires no creativity whatsoever. There is a publisher called Ubisoft who makes these games. They should he your favorite publisher. I heard they make a open world game nearly every year, though I am not surprised because it requires no effort, no wonder they can do it so quickly. Every new game is a Far Cry 3 reskin.

Rockstar Games are critically acclaimed unlike Ubisoft games and Sell 10X more than Ubisoft games. Don’t tell industry leading developers how to make their games. Linear mission design is more engaging, has actual pacing and Requires Original thinking.
Open just allows multiple ways of completing the mission. The mission doesn’t change. RDR2 has plenty of those “Ubisoft” go here and kill guys missions.

 

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It's a weird one for me, the controls are trash and the gameplay can be boring, mission design is limited as well. Heck, the game is super long too, it couldve been shorter.


But Arthur Morgan is probably one of the best written videogame characters around and the story is really good so that alone compelled me to finish it and I can't say I regret it.


There's 0 chance I replay it though.