ManaByte said:So I was playing VP1 on the PSP today and I forgot how great the game is.
Does the sequel live up to it despite it being in 3D?
I love the sprites of the original.
What about the music? Battle system?
What? Better than the almighty Grandia?Kaijima said:Also, it can't be said enough just how plain cool the battle system is. There's a lot to it and it's my favorite system of ANY RPG in this generation, and possibly, of all time.
Derps said:Haven't played it but I listened to the OST and threw up
Sounds like you level grind or fight every single enemy you come across. The battle system is infinitely more fun if you don't.Blackbeard said:The battle system is interesting, though somewhat flawed (dashing = you win) -- while at the same time adding some sort of puzzle aspect to fighting (go for the commander, dash around to avoid enemies cones of visions until you get behind the commander -- you have a limited # of dashes before you ahve to recharge by moving around, which will then free the enemies to move toward you). The battles in the original dealt more with setting up the right moves and weapons for your characters to pull off some sick combos in order to use your special attacks. While this one relies on it as well, it just doesn't feel quite as tight and the momentum of battle is broken a bit as you try to avoid having the enemy get you in thei sites. (thats where the easier comes in, not getting hit in battle is a bit too easy).
Oh noes, sounds just like Star Ocean Till the End of Time's problem O_OAvalon said:The game starts of incredibly strong. Great music, great cast of characters, intriguing story and some of the best gameplay around. It actually keeps getting better and better for most of the game.
However, the last bits of the story almost ruined the entire experience for me. At that point, the game throws its own story out the window, destroys continuity and potential story from the first game and discards all of its Norse mythology roots in exchange for generic anime garbage.
Ultimately, the game is not better then the original.
Finaika said:Oh noes, sounds just like Star Ocean Till the End of Time's problem O_O
It's a little shallow in the plot/characterization department
Duderz said:Not as good as the original, but Avalon's overexaggerating about the story. It's got problems, but not to the magnitude he's describing, IMO.
That said, I'd still highly recommend it - the gameplay is just phenomenal.
Avalon said:I don't think I am.
Yup, the game is still fantastic despite it's ending.
Shouta said:Just as good, if not better than VP1 in most respects.
I still don't understand what the bitching about the ending is all about. I don't see how it destroys continuity or anything unless they radically changed something from the JP version of the game.
Shouta said:Just as good, if not better than VP1 in most respects.
I still don't understand what the bitching about the ending is all about. I don't see how it destroys continuity or anything unless they radically changed something from the JP version of the game.
Hitokage said:Sounds like you level grind or fight every single enemy you come across. The battle system is infinitely more fun if you don't.
I still don't understand what the bitching about the ending is all about. I don't see how it destroys continuity or anything unless they radically changed something from the JP version of the game.
MoxManiac said:Well generally the events in VP2 lead to the events of VP1 not happening. Though I think duderz and avalon don't seem to understand the idea that both VP1 and VP2's timelines can exist. Then again that's understandable since it's pretty confusing to include concepts from quantum mechanics into a game based on norse mythology, but hey, that's jrpgs for you :lol
Duderz said:I thought you didn't like the end stuff either?
Finally, someone who's on my side? :lol
Avalon said:Hm...?
Tell me exactly how it doesnt.Without using alternate dimension if thats even possible.
I understand that. I just don't understand why they choose to do that without.without addressing all of the questions from VP1
Shouta said:I didn't like the end mainly because the premise was kind of dumb.It's still exciting though and extremely well done other than theTime-traveling power-mongering? pffft.spiel. I wish they could've done a more expansive plot but eh, that wouldn't work really well.ZOMG, VALKYRIE FUSION
There isn't any other explanation. If you try to explain it asa single timeline, it just won't work. Odin is gone in the VP2 timeline would cause the events of VP1 to erase and then erasing Lenneth from VP1 in the storyline. You HAVE to look at it from multiple timeline angle otherwise it won't make any sense.
And what questions from VP1? Other thanLezard's motivations, which is never really answered, there isn't anything off the top of my head that VP2 doesn't explain for VP1.
MoxManiac said:Did they explain who Brahms was other than he used to be an einharjar(?) I know he fused with dylan's soul at one point but -how- did he become the lord of undead? That I still think is unanswered?
Shouta said:And what questions from VP1? Other thanLezard's motivations, which is never really answered, there isn't anything off the top of my head that VP2 doesn't explain for VP1.
It's really ****ing basic and applies for almost every RPG. Winning many many battles = experience = lowered battle difficulty. Try winning a battle where simply charging the leader gets you slaughtered, and you'll have fun pulling every tactical trick you can to survive.I don't understand how you would think that from what I typed, I fight enemies when they get in my way, and I kill the commander only if at all possible (since that ends the fight quicker, and keeps me from having to be bored to death killing everything without getting hit much). How would the battle system be infinitely more fun if you don't fight the enmeis you come across? I don't understand that logic at all. Can only have fun if you fight .
You can always photon-shoot bad guys so you don't have to have ANY unnecessary fighting.This game, I'd rather avoid all unnecessary fighting, so I kill the commanders quickly and move along.
A lot of it is personal preference. I personally like the VP1 soundtrack and its style much more overall, but both are quite good.Duderz said:EDIT: Oh, and the music definitely takes a different direction than the first - not so much rock, more symphonic. Better than the first, IMO.
I totally agree.Avalon said:The game starts of incredibly strong. Great music, great cast of characters, intriguing story and some of the best gameplay around. It actually keeps getting better and better for most of the game.
However, the last bits of the story almost ruined the entire experience for me. At that point, the game throws its own story out the window, destroys continuity and potential story from the first game and discards all of its Norse mythology roots in exchange for generic anime garbage.
Ultimately, the game is not better then the original.