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[Chairmanchuck]

I remember Deus ex human revolution having terrible Chinese lol.

At least it was by chinese, but somehow the whole structure of the sentence didnt sound right. Like they stop in the middle of one sentence for like 4-5 times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07jz-t-nANA

 

[Derpcrawler]

BF4 is actually very accurate when it comes to weapon looks, uniforms and voice over. The russian soldiers speach in MP is perfect and believable. When in games in CoD you hear some really shitty voice over done by english speakers trying to imitate russian speech, completely broken grammar and very heavy accent.

My chinese is not that great, and it's hard to understand native speakers sometimes, especially here in Shanghai where people mix Putonghua with Shanghaihua, but I can clearly understand chinese voiceover in BF4. So I guess DICE done pretty good job there as well.

 

[Dreamgazer]

No actually, the Chinese voice is good in BF4... it's just hilarious to hear it in games for us Chinese players, really - because most of the games only had very crappy to none Chinese voice, but in BF4 you can definitely tell what they are saying.

You can tell what they're saying, yes, but the lines are acted out in such an excessive over the top.manner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jut4gr9I9A

It's the polar extreme to the BF2's voice over - where the lines sound normal (reasonable military speak) but the actor is obviously some Cantonese speaker with heavily accented Mandarin.

(It should be noted that no one pays attention to this during gameplay anyway.)

 

[Phades]

Man, I saw so many chinese who make custom emblems ranging from drawings of poop on japanese flag to dicks taking a piss on japanese flag, or comparing japanese to dogs. I don't know how to feel about it, I glad the people who I know and play with are not that kind of type.

Wait, what happened in recent history that china is still pissed at japan about exactly?

WW2 had a lot of bad things that are justified, but what since then?

On top of that there is no way there would be conventional war between major powers since all of them have nuclear weapons. In even shit goes down everyone will lose.

Until a technological paragrim shift occurs making that method obsolete or impractical. Nothing is impossible in the theoretical future. Realisticially speaking though, folks will get grumpy, but nothing serious will occur officialy on a wide scale in a hostile fashion in the near future.

 

[Red Mage]

Though we haven't seen one in a while, if we ever get a WWII game that shows how the Japanese Imperial Army treated prisoners, non-Japanese civilians, comfort women, et cetera there will likely be a huge uproar among the Japanese government and aged population against the portrayal.

The older Japanese who grew up under the Showa Emperor and American Occupation don't like to acknowledge the war crimes committed (I mean hell, a Class-A War Criminal was Prime Minister for a while). Only with the death of Hirohito have the younger generations been able to accept and deal with the reality of Japan's past.

Sadly, I've ran into younger Japanese people online who still refuse to believe that it happened.

Wait, what happened in recent history that china is still pissed at japan about exactly?

WW2 had a lot of bad things that are justified, but what since then?
Until a technological paragrim shift occurs making that method obsolete or impractical. Nothing is impossible in the theoretical future. Realisticially speaking though, folks will get grumpy, but nothing serious will occur officialy on a wide scale in a hostile fashion in the near future.

They refuse to acknowledge what happened in WW2. Not only that, but China has a long national memory.

 

[jay]

Government and stupid nationalists care, others don't. See my post above.

Yeah, except for the Chinese government caring, and the nationalists, no one cares.

 

[Squire]

China don't care.

I think we're done here.

 

[HovaHovito]

China don't care
Edit:dammit

 

[bigboss370]

I'd love to see a high profile game portraying USA in a negative way. Some politicians would freak out.

Beyond Two Souls, kinda.

 

[braves01]

Sadly, I've ran into younger Japanese people online who still refuse to believe that it happened.



They refuse to acknowledge what happened in WW2. Not only that, but China has a long national memory.

China's equally guilty of convenient historical amnesia/exaggeration/what-have-you regarding certain things, to the point that young highly educated Chinese are shockingly ignorant about them. All countries are to a certain degree.

Are there any European nations that view each other as hostilely as China views Japan? Do France/England and Germany still got beef like this?

 

[Slayven]

The Venezuelan Government said this game was made just so America could invade Venezuela

.

 

[Tesseract]

 

[TekGryphon]

But I didn't hear any outrage? What are you talking about, you can easily buy it on Steam and Retail in Russia. Unless I missed something, you are blowing it out of proportion.

Wow, really? The CoH2 poutrage from Russia was all over the place.

 

[the_batman]

Once they invade the US you'll know the answer yankie!

its yankee

China still cool.

haha

 

[Red Mage]

China's equally guilty of convenient historical amnesia/exaggeration/what-have-you regarding certain things, to the point that young highly educated Chinese are shockingly ignorant about them. All countries are to a certain degree.

This is true.

Are there any European nations that view each other as hostilely as China views Japan? Do France/England and Germany still got beef like this?

China and Japan both have a peculiar (to us) mindset. They think in centuries, rather than decades. I've seen people on both sides bring up the FIRST Sino-Japanese War like we do the first Gulf War.

 

[Dreamgazer]

Wait, what happened in recent history that china is still pissed at japan about exactly?

WW2 had a lot of bad things that are justified, but what since then?

It's quite a mix of multiple things...
For one, Japan is typically sided with the US in terms of International policies, especially in the area of carbon emission, animal protection, etc. This opposing stance generally does not jive well with the common Chinese citizen.

Two, with China's growth in population and economical power, natural resources such as oil and food becomes more and more of a dire issue. In turn, this means more aggressive approaches in terms of securing on water territory control for seafood (citizen-level) and underwater control for oil (gov/big business level.) One area of hot debate is the rights to Daioyu/Senkaku Island: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands and (a mess that the US government sort of left behind.)

Finally, politicians from both countries uses the nationalistic hatred to manipulate the people or dodge political issues. This is especially true for the Japanese nationalists, who wishes to expand their defense force into a more legitimized army. In their attempt to show "guts", they would purposely make war-denial statements, trying to justify war prostitution or commemorate "war heroes" (which is not a popular move with any of the East-Asian countries, not just China.) Unfortunately, this also feeds to some Chinese media who wants to play up this image. It's also a funny sight to see since the stance changes back and forth with each change of the Japanese prime minister/majority party.

There are also some other minor reasons such as the treatment of illegal thai/viet/chinese immigrant workers in China, political ploys of pro-independence Taiwanese politicians, Tuna market price gauging, intellectual property theft that goes both ways (foreign companies would also steal Chinese tech, since the intellectual property laws are so weak in the country.) etc.

Long story short...it's the typical nation to nation tension.

 

[sleepykyo]

I can only thing of the USA as the one country that is sensitive about how it's portrayed in video games.

China doesn't seem to care.

Well, not having consoles limits exposure. They seemed pretty upset about Pacific Rim.

I would think the individuals on a country are concerned less about how the government is portrayed and more about how individuals representations come across.

 

[Shosai]

I'd love to see a high profile game portraying USA in a negative way. Some politicians would freak out.

Just Cause 2? Grand Theft Auto? Call of Duty? Resident Evil 6? Red Alert 3?

 

[Big-E]

I am teaching in China and I have a student who was playing it at lunch time yesterday. There is a small base that will buy things on Steam or Origin.

 

[smr00]

China is Americas friend

Who you think made your underwears?

Some dude named hanes makes mine.

Although i don't appreciate him putting his name on my underwear.

 

[Zemm]

China don't care.

 

[Accoun]

Origin never banned China IP, they just recognize China IP as part of Europe. lol.
.

that is kinda fucked up in a weird way lmao.

And China is in the east. Imagine if it would give them the PL/RU-only dubbed versions for some reason, lol.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

I'd love to see a high profile game portraying USA in a negative way. Some politicians would freak out.

So half of all games your head trauma blanks out?

 

[Phades]

Sadly, I've ran into younger Japanese people online who still refuse to believe that it happened.



They refuse to acknowledge what happened in WW2. Not only that, but China has a long national memory.

It's quite a mix of multiple things...
For one, Japan is typically sided with the US in terms of International policies, especially in the area of carbon emission, animal protection, etc. This opposing stance generally does not jive well with the common Chinese citizen.

Two, with China's growth in population and economical power, natural resources such as oil and food becomes more and more of a dire issue. In turn, this means more aggressive approaches in terms of securing on water territory control for seafood (citizen-level) and underwater control for oil (gov/big business level.) One area of hot debate is the rights to Daioyu/Senkaku Island: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands and (a mess that the US government sort of left behind.)

Finally, politicians from both countries uses the nationalistic hatred to manipulate the people or dodge political issues. This is especially true for the Japanese nationalists, who wishes to expand their defense force into a more legitimized army. In their attempt to show "guts", they would purposely make war-denial statements, trying to justify war prostitution or commemorate "war heroes" (which is not a popular move with any of the East-Asian countries, not just China.) Unfortunately, this also feeds to some Chinese media who wants to play up this image. It's also a funny sight to see since the stance changes back and forth with each change of the Japanese prime minister/majority party.

There are also some other minor reasons such as the treatment of illegal thai/viet/chinese immigrant workers in China, political ploys of pro-independence Taiwanese politicians, Tuna market price gauging, intellectual property theft that goes both ways (foreign companies would also steal Chinese tech, since the intellectual property laws are so weak in the country.) etc.

Long story short...it's the typical nation to nation tension.

Thanks both of you. I will remain ignorant of many things, but some things deserve to be explained further.

 

[Ovek]

Sure

Spoiler

they do destroy the USS Titan super carrier demonstrating there superior military.

 

[The Flash]

China ain't got no time for that!

 

[Bill Rizer]

China don't care.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=707721

 

[HoodWinked]

theyre too busy playing league of freegends

 

[Bronetta]

Just Cause 2? Grand Theft Auto? Call of Duty? Resident Evil 6? Red Alert 3?

Never played Just Cause 2 or Red Alert 3 but America isn't the sole bad guy in the other games. There's other villains too. I mean specifically a game where the American imperial and war machine is the big bad.

 

[chickdigger802]

At least it was by chinese, but somehow the whole structure of the sentence didnt sound right. Like they stop in the middle of one sentence for like 4-5 times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07jz-t-nANA

And wasn't hengsha like, extremely close to shanghai? You don't hear that kinda mandrin there lol

 

[XANDER CAGE]

I'd love to see a high profile game portraying USA in a negative way. Some politicians would freak out.

Tons of games do. Even some of the earlier Call of Duty games are more cynical about US history and foreign policy than you might expect.

In fact, Battlefield 3's crappy campaign was pretty unfavorable towards the US top brass characters.

 

[Ennoia]

HAHAHA, time to bump this thread because the Chinese MILITARY journalists finally start to care about this.

http://www.chinamil.com.cn/gfbmap/content/21/2013-12/05/03/2013120503_pdf.pdf

This is the China Military newspaper (Chinese name 中国国防报 means China national defense newspaper). Sponsored by PLA Daily of the Chinese People's Liberation Army.

The title of this criticism is "Exorcise the video game demon by JUSTICE AND TRUTH"
and BF4 is the demon for demonizing China and PLA.

Are you trembling now, EA?

Well the content itself have nothing surprising, the author just criticizing BF4 for blemishing the international image of China, and of course "western countries always propagate such attitudes and values against China by video games", take BF4 for example, players will receive these information repeatedly: China remains tense and turbulent with social instability, PLA is pugnacious, and player have to role play American solder to fight against PLA (this guy have never played multiplayer confirmed).

This article also mentioned Command and Conquer Generals, Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising, Call of Duty Black Ops 2 for doing the same thing like represent China as a pugnacious country in game.

But the most interesting thing is the last paragraph finally revealed this article is a insidious propaganda for the Chinese shooter "Glorious Mission", a so-called "patriotism shooter" in China. So the way to "exorcise the video game demon by justice and truth" is making more games like Glorious Mission, what a joke.

 

[Saintguine]

As long as you don't say Tibet is independent I guess.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Calling your game "The Glorious Mission" is so weird and propagandist to my ears. They have missions about fighting Japan for disputed islands and whatnot, no?

 

[Skyr]

Nobody cares about that shitty singleplayer anyway.

 

[gunstarhero]

CHINA DON'T CARE

 

[SneakyStephan]

They cared about RE6?

Noone cared about RE6

 

[soundscream]

Their to busy laughing at us for buying this broken game.

 

[i-Lo]

No wonder they're setting up a rocket base on the moon.

 

[Al Gore's Thermostat]

Really, who cares what China thinks? They need to treat their people and environment better before they complain about anything else in the world.

 

[Ennoia]

Calling your game "The Glorious Mission" is so weird and propagandist to my ears. They have missions about fighting Japan for disputed islands and whatnot, no?

FYI: Glorious Mission is approved, initiated and invested by Nanjing Military Region, a part of PLA, so it's “politically correct” in China.

Yes the disputed islands mission have been released.

Here is the Reuters report from Chinajoy this year.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/01/us-china-game-idUSBRE9700OS20130801

And if youku is not blocking foreign IP, you can check the PV for that mission here:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDQ3NDU2NDQ4.html
Yes, it have English dubbing for a reason lol.

 

[Kadayi]

Ah, sorry for the offtopic and wall of text. But I sometimes just shocked of misconception people have about other nations, especially those that are portrayed as "evil". Be it chinese, russians or iranian. I have few iranian classmates here in China and they are also pretty nice folks, with same interests and mentality as any other person of their age. They have nice sense of humour and don't mind go to have few drinks now and then with other students, including jews that study here as well. People need to stop look at world through the propaganda and stereotypes frame.

^ this man speaks truth.

This whole 'they're worse than them' mentality is just plain ridiculous. Regardless of nation people are people and whether people are Russians, Chinese, Japanese, German US or Iranian etc doesn't mean they're any more lightly to be evil assholes regardless of what happened in the past or how the latest blockbuster presents them. Neither are they necessarily going to be saints without a stain on their character either.

 

[mnz]

I still remember the thread with the video that one Russian nationalist did about the portrayal of the Russian army in Company of Heroes 2.

Check the user ratings and reviews: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/company-of-heroes-2

 

[Ovid]

China was in BF2 eight years ago. Why would they care about BF4?

 

[Tidesofblood]

I don't think any Chinese people wold be offended, if anything I'd think they would welcome using their beautiful country as a setting for video games. I hope I can visit one day myself

 

[braves01]

The next Battlefield/cod should have a china level where the smog is really bad so you can't see well or run too long because you'll breathe in particulates (assuming you don't have optimal gear right away). It could be part of a real time weather engine.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

The next Battlefield/cod should have a china level where the smog is really bad so you can't see well or run too long because you'll breathe in particulates (assuming you don't have optimal gear right away). It could be part of a real time weather engine.

If you stray too far off the path you get a hazardous pollution warning like the radiation in CoD4.

 

[Sealion88]

I don't think any Chinese people wold be offended, if anything I'd think they would welcome using their beautiful country as a setting for video games. I hope I can visit one day myself

they were quite offended by Kane and Lynch 2 because of all the killing and it was published by a Japanese company. Saw it on world journal (chinese newpaper)

 

[MrCompletely]

Expected this first post.

holy crap, allow me to appreciate this gif for a moment. I haven't thought about They Live starring Roddy Piper in years. This gif brought me a flood of childhood memories. Thanks!

 

[Ennoia]

China was in BF2 eight years ago. Why would they care about BF4?

The government officials or "social justice fighters" have no time or chance to play every game, so such "criticism" will not always happen to every single one, as long as those games were not released in China, most of them can avoid being noticed.

But Kane and Lynch 2 Dog Days and Battlefield 4 just doesn't have that luck.

If you don't know what happened to Kane and Lynch 2 in China last year, check this:
http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID/708499/Foreign-video-game-vilifies-China.aspx

I don't think any Chinese people wold be offended, if anything I'd think they would welcome using their beautiful country as a setting for video games. I hope I can visit one day myself

Thousands of Chinese players have bought BF4, and the series is somehow popular in local player community, people are not easily being offended, but "social justice" or "international image" is far more sensitive. Well at least for some people it is.

Just don't visit Beijing and Shanghai, those fog and haze are terrible nowadays.