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[Devolution]

I knew a Mormon chick in college who was an anal fiend. We got along pretty well despite our religious differences.

Her hymen was intact the sex didn't count!

 

[Mahonay]

Her hymen was intact the sex didn't count!

It's rather genius.

 

[Aristion]

Tell her that the Flintstones was NOT a documentary!

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Listen guys, meet a girl from Charleston and tell me you still wouldn't date a religious person. I met one last semester and she's a stunning blonde with light green eyes, with the warmest smile and laid back personality you will ever meet.

She happened to be religious but if I lived in Charleston I would easily date her and happily never talk about religion nor politics. What kind of shitty guy talks politics with his girl anyway? If you are, perhaps your in a boring relationship (not directed at you OP).

The notion that you will completely ignore someone with a different outlook on life is obscene, especially to the level some posters in here are bringing it, by comparing an individuals beliefs to a child's intelligence. It's ridiculous.

Let it be known that I'm not even religious, and consider it silly as well. However, to me, it's a boring topic to talk about, and often leads to petty arguments over who is right and wrong. I avoid those conversations altogether, especially with a girl I am interested in.

So to you OP, don't engage in political or religious conversations with your girlfriend. She hates talking about it, you hate talking about, and most importantly, you both hate talking about it together.

You may even enjoy talking politics with colleagues and friends, but I can safely assume you hate talking about it with your girl. Just live it up, have fun and share a laugh. That's all I ever did with past girlfriends, and currently searching for in a relationship.

I guess what I am trying to say is political and religious views are NOT the right characteristics to judge a persons personality. Get on with it OP, a year and a half is a long time and it seems like you really dig her or else you would have left her a lonnnngggg time ago.

 

[JGS]

Being intelligent is important to me.

Good for you?

You officially are not required to believe in a 6,000 year old Earth.

I don't understand why people date idiots. Because anyone who believes the earth is 6000 years old is an idiot. Religion is no excuse for willful ignorance. It's entirely possible to be religious and not be an idiot, but the girl in the OP is clearly not one of those people.

It's also entirely possible to not be an idiot while holding onto an idiotic concept.

 

[Flo_Evans]

What is slightly humorous to me is I would bet you could find the exact opposite of this thread on some religious forum.

"oh my, JAF (Jesus age forum) my boyfriend doesn't accept Jesus as his personal savior! What should I do?"

"dump him"

"try and educate him, read him the bible"

"I could never be with someone who doesn't believe in Jesus"

 

[Mahonay]

Good for you?

You officially are not required to believe in a 6,000 year old Earth.

Can you print out a certificate for me? I need something to remind me.

 

[GTP_Daverytimes]

You were inferring judgment with that statement with out saying it outright. Come on you know what I meant. We're not children here.

Actually "We don't know what you meant", i am from another culture so don't always assume what i mean. I was saying it in a free spirited way, surely that's not a hard concept to grasp.

 

[Count Dookkake]

What is slightly humorous to me is I would bet you could find the exact opposite of this thread on some religious forum.

"oh my, JAF (Jesus age forum) my boyfriend doesn't accept Jesus as his personal savior! What should I do?"

"dump him"

"try and educate him, read him the bible"

"I could never be with someone who doesn't believe in Jesus"

Listen guys, meet a girl from Charleston and tell me you still wouldn't date a religious person. I met one last semester and she's a stunning blonde with light green eyes, with the warmest smile and laid back personality you will ever meet.

She happened to be religious but if I lived in Charleston I would easily date her and happily never talk about religion nor politics. What kind of shitty guy talks politics with his girl anyway? If you are, perhaps your in a boring relationship (not directed at you OP).

The notion that you will completely ignore someone with a different outlook on life is obscene, especially to the level some posters in here are bringing it, by comparing an individuals beliefs to a child's intelligence. It's ridiculous.

Let it be known that I'm not even religious, and consider it silly as well. However, to me, it's a boring topic to talk about, and often leads to petty arguments over who is right and wrong. I avoid those conversations altogether, especially with a girl I am interested in.

So to you OP, don't engage in political or religious conversations with your girlfriend. She hates talking about it, you hate talking about, and most importantly, you both hate talking about it together.

You may even enjoy talking politics with colleagues and friends, but I can safely assume you hate talking about it with your girl. Just live it up, have fun and share a laugh. That's all I ever did with past girlfriends, and currently searching for in a relationship.

I guess what I am trying to say is political and religious views are NOT the right characteristics to judge a persons personality. Get on with it OP, a year and a half is a long time and it seems like you really dig her or else you would have left her a lonnnngggg time ago.

These are nice posts, but they both seem to miss the point that this thread started off about a very specific and stupid belief. It's not really about Jesus or even just religion.

 

[Mahonay]

Actually "We don't know what you meant", i am from another culture so don't always assume what i mean. I was saying it in a free spirited way, surely that's not a hard concept to grasp.

Sorry about that. I'm used to sarcastic ass Americans.

Also I'm pretty dumb so I'm not sure if I can grasp anything at all.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

These are nice posts, but they both seem to miss the point that this thread started off about a very specific and stupid belief. It's not really about Jesus or even just religion.

I'm mainly coming from out of the lurkers darkness to comment on how spiteful many of the posters in this thread come off.

I can only compare their negative attitude with the OP's girlfriends religious inclinations.

 

[Mr. Saturn]

With that said, these topics usually devolve into people thumping their chests about the infallibility of science, when they themselves lack critical thinking skills.

When it comes to aging, most take studies at face value, and many evolutionists don't even realize that Carbon dating assumptions are not reliable past even 5,000 years.

Other techniques for radiometric dating rely heavily on circular reasoning, using reference fossils. When dates don't comply with the reference fossils, it is either thrown out as contaminated, or the previous "reliable" date has to be thrown out. I'm not arguing for a particular age of the Earth, but it wouldn't hurt if people go at it with a cynical viewpoint.

Sorry to say, but this is one field of science that relies heavily on assumptions, biased interpretations, and sensationalist discoveries to secure more funding dollars.

Thankfully for us, people choosing whether or not to accept a scientific theory, has no bearing on the validity of the theory itself.

By the way, scientists don't use carbon dating for the age of the earth, they use argon and potassium dating for the age of the earth.

 

[CornBurrito]

Thankfully for us, people choosing whether or not to accept a scientific theory, has no bearing on the validity of the theory itself.

By the way, scientists don't use carbon dating for the age of the earth, they use argon and potassium dating for the age of the earth.

Sanky hasn't responded in awhile, so hopefully he is gathering up his sources. I really hope it wasn't a simple hit and run.

 

[Orayn]

Thankfully for us, people choosing whether or not to accept a scientific theory, has no bearing on the validity of the theory itself.

By the way, scientists don't use carbon dating for the age of the earth, they use argon and potassium dating for the age of the earth.

CALL YOUR EVIL SCIENCE RELIGION VOODOO WHATEVER YOU WANT, HEATHEN! Sanky Panky's got your number.

Sanky hasn't responded in awhile, so hopefully he is gathering up his sources. I really hope it wasn't a simple hit and run.

I'm bracing... For disappointment.

 

[Mahonay]

Thankfully for us, people choosing whether or not to accept a scientific theory, has no bearing on the validity of the theory itself.

Thank you sir. You summed up my feelings in one sentence. Well put.

 

[KtSlime]

It only matters if it matters to you.

It likely matters to our entire species. Our entire continued existence kind of hinges on making more good decisions than bad decisions. The more informed the world is, the more good decisions we have the potential of making.

 

[Sutton Dagger]

Sanky hasn't responded in awhile, so hopefully he is gathering up his sources. I really hope it wasn't a simple hit and run.

I think you might be right, I'll help him out.

http://www.answersincreation.org/

 

[Laughing Banana]

-Snip-

Religious matters are always important, despite if you choose to ignore it or pretend that it's not there. In case of relationships, if you are not comfortable with religion and anything that it possibly entails, then you should not pursue a relationship with a person you know is religious/involved in religion-heavy life.

A person that is uncomfortable with religion, who proceed to commit a relationship with another that is religious, only then to talk shit about his/her partner's choice of life, then that person is an asshole. Of course, the same also applies in a reverse situation (like religious --> atheist)

To the OP: I apologize if I sound really harsh or blunt here, but are you sure you "love her dearly"? Because truthfully... I don't think you think yourself as an equal to her. You opening to an Internet forum about her "lesserness" (so to speak), as if you are seeking justifications for your feelings, is quite telling, in my opinion. Do you or do you not have a problem with complete strangers fixing derogatory terms such as "fucking idiot" or "stupid" towards your partner?

I think deep down, you honestly think of her as a person that is lesser than you. I do not think this can be a basis of a healthy, loving relationship between two adults.

It likely matters to our entire species. Our entire continued existence kind of hinges on making more good decisions than bad decisions. The more informed the world is, the more good decisions we have the potential of making.

I don't think OP's personal plight has any impact on mankind's continued existence, hahaha.

 

[JGS]

It likely matters to our entire species. Our entire continued existence kind of hinges on making more good decisions than bad decisions. The more informed the world is, the more good decisions we have the potential of making.

And yet the world has continued to survive fine without the age of the Earth tattooed in their brain. It is not a requirement of life to know the age of it. As I said before, this is exactly as important as someone who says they don't care how old the Earth is.

Anyway, there are plenty of people (Including religious folk) that accept what science teaches regarding the age of the Earth & universe.

This thread is turning into another silly argument about the fake dangers of religious beliefs. Seriously, what do you think this girl will do with her lack of knowledge?

When his girlfriend writes a science textbook, I'll be a little more worried.

 

[Orayn]

If the topic was "So my girlfriend thinks the moon is made out of cheese...", would this girlfriend be exempt from criticism as well?

Only if it's in a book and she pinkie-swears that she believes it.

 

[wormstrangler]

Glad my girlfriend is an atheist. Only problem is the only drugs she lets me take is weed/alcohol... meh all relationships have there downfalls.

i'm extremely happy though.

Whipped!

 

[Flo_Evans]

These are nice posts, but they both seem to miss the point that this thread started off about a very specific and stupid belief. It's not really about Jesus or even just religion.

It's a stupid belief. Does it really matter though?

I mean some of you guys sound like you would only date vulcans.

 

[Devolution]

It's a stupid belief. Does it really matter though?

I mean some of you guys sound like you would only date vulcans.

Or they wouldn't stoop to dating a fucking idiot just for the sex or her looks, god forbid.

 

[Cubsfan23]

Or they wouldn't stoop to dating a fucking idiot just for the sex or her looks, god forbid.

99% of this forum are bluffing when they say they would dump the girl

 

[Count Dookkake]

It's a stupid belief. Does it really matter though?

I mean some of you guys sound like you would only date vulcans.

I am not sure what "it" you are referring in the first two sentences, so I am having trouble parsing the collected meaning of that portion of your post and how that would relate to the point you were making earlier. Could you be more specific?

Regarding the Vulcans, I'd bone the shit out of Saavik or T'Pau.

 

[Green Mamba]

It's a stupid belief. Does it really matter though?

I mean some of you guys sound like you would only date vulcans.

Who would have thought that some people value common beliefs and interests?

 

[Orayn]

99% of this forum are bluffing when they say they would dump the girl

Just because you have no principles doesn't mean that GAF doesn't have them either.

 

[Devolution]

Who would have thought that some people value common beliefs and interests?

Don't assume that GAF doesn't have any principles just because you don't.

No we're all undersexed nerds with no standards. Stop putting up a front fellas.

 

[Emitan]

It's a stupid belief. Does it really matter though?

I mean some of you guys sound like you would only date vulcans.

If someone believes something that's absolutely fucking stupid is true, then yes. It matters.

I wouldn't date a girl with the mind of a small child, so something as ridiculous as this bothers me.

 

[thesoapster]

Or they wouldn't stoop to dating a fucking idiot just for the sex or her looks, god forbid.

We only know so much about the OP's GF. Is it fair to label her that way and to assume she has no other worthy characteristics besides her physical features?

 

[Escape Goat]

You should definitely marry this girl and make long term plans.

 

[alphaNoid]

I mean some of you guys sound like you would only date vulcans.

This is probably the most accurate post in this thread.

 

[KtSlime]

And yet the world has continued to survive fine without the age of the Earth tattooed in their brain. It is not a requirement of life to know the age of it. As I said before, this is exactly as important as someone who says they don't care how old the Earth is.

Anyway, there are plenty of people (Including religious folk) that accept what science teaches regarding the age of the Earth & universe.

This thread is turning into another silly argument about the fake dangers of religious beliefs. Seriously, what do you think this girl will do with her lack of knowledge?

When his girlfriend writes a science textbook, I'll be a little more worried.

I don't think OP's personal plight has any impact on mankind's continued existence, hahaha.

You are completely correct. One individual running a red light will little effect on the intersection. However, if you let enough people to run red lights enough times accidents are bound to build up.

We have never had this many people on the Earth before, and it's just going to get more crowded, and we are going to develop better ways of killing each other, and become more and more strapped for resources. Educating _everybody_ is our best chance to perpetuate our species for as long as possible.

I personally think the OP should try and reason with his girlfriend and bring her to a more enlightened vantage point, however if that is not possible I hope they choose not to procreate, and if they do, I hope they can agree to not teach stupid ideas to their offspring.

 

[TouchMyBox]

Honestly, it is more beautiful and poetic to believe that we are all destined for the afterlife and that we are all under the eye of a God, who will ensure our immortal and everlasting happiness when we die.

No reason to be sad for her missing out on the depressing reality that we all just end.

Sounds kinda masochistic to me.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

To the OP: I apologize if I sound really harsh or blunt here, but are you sure you "love her dearly"? Because truthfully... I don't think you think yourself as an equal to her. I think deep down, you honestly think of her as a person that is lesser than you. I do not think this can be a basis of a healthy relationship for two adults.
.

In response to your post, I respectfully disagree.

Religion doesn't make someone funny or fun to be around, or adventurous as a thrill seeker, or willing to try new foods and experience different cultures through travel.

People who make nasty judgements based on religion or political stances are in the wrong, end of story.

Many posters in here are judging her intelligence based on her religious beliefs, when in fact she may write beautifully or solve calculus problems faster than they can.

It's insulting to read. Insulting because I have met many people with many different beliefs with evangelical backgrounds and a by the bible belief of mankind's existence.

Yet they happen to be some of the most generous charming individuals I have ever had the pleasure to meet.

But to each his own. You at least show some class by refraining from such childish nonsense. I can see that in your post. Although, the last part is puzzling to me.

 

[Brawndo Addict]

The notion that you will completely ignore someone with a different outlook on life is obscene, especially to the level some posters in here are bringing it, by comparing an individuals beliefs to a child's intelligence. It's ridiculous.

Let it be known that I'm not even religious, and consider it silly as well. However, to me, it's a boring topic to talk about, and often leads to petty arguments over who is right and wrong. I avoid those conversations altogether, especially with a girl I am interested in.

I guess what I am trying to say is political and religious views are NOT the right characteristics to judge a persons personality. Get on with it OP, a year and a half is a long time and it seems like you really dig her or else you would have left her a lonnnngggg time ago.

EDIT: Others have addressed this point prior to my posting, I failed to refresh the thread. My bad.

I disagree entirely, assuming you are looking for a long-term relationship. It's not about what you're ignoring them for. It's about why. The bottom line is, do you respect the other person? You said yourself that you consider religion silly. When you date religious individuals, do you tell them that you think it's funny that they actually believe these things? Saying someone's beliefs are silly isn't that far off from comparing them to a child. I would argue the cultural force behind saying something is silly appeals to the very idea of childlike reasoning.

Furthermore, I would argue that accounting for political and religious views is part of knowing the overall identity of an individual. If one's religious and political views do not reflect your overall identity and personality, than you're probably not very passionate about them. That in of itself is characteristic of someone's personality.

Obviously it's not about shrinking people down to a bullet point list and checking the number of cross-overs. But when someone says they're republican or an atheist, there is more going on within the individual beyond simply preferring this label to that. It's about why they subscribe to these views and beliefs, not just that they have them. And more importantly, it's about how you respond to those reasons. It's not simply about ignoring them because they hold opposing views.

If you don't respect someone, don't date them.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Or they wouldn't stoop to dating a fucking idiot just for the sex or her looks, god forbid.

What? Are you saying religious women are fucking idiots?

 

[Emitan]

What? Are you saying religious women are fucking idiots?

No, he's saying people who believe the earth is 6,000 years old are idiots.

 

[Count Dookkake]

What? Are you saying religious women are fucking idiots?

Remember what the thread is about.

Is it about a religious woman or is it something more specific?

 

[eastmen]

If tomorrow a scientific study was published that proclaimed irrefutable proof that carbon dating was in error by a factor of two, and that the Earth and the universe were really twice as old as we think now, I'd believe it. If the scientific community were all in agreement, I'd believe it, no matter how much I believe in things now.

Don't you think thats a problem. You believe one group of people even if they were to say hey we were wrong , its really this . But she believes another group of people and thats a problem ?

The truth is we are never going to know how old the earth is we are never going to know what really happened before us . There are allways new pieces to be found , there are allways corrections to past data .

(please note , i really don't beleive the earth is only 6,000 years old . However I'm open minded to science as much as religion because i wasn't alive 6,001 years ago to know if the earth was here)

 

[Sanky Panky]

I think you might be right, I'll help him out.

http://www.answersincreation.org/

Sorry duder, but no that's not my source.

I'll be back to respond in a bit, have to finish studying about the infallible science of finance.

I'll just pre-face by asking any of you if you truly understand the ASSUMPTIONS that are used to apply all these different dating methods.

 

[Orayn]

Many posters in here are judging her intelligence based on her religious beliefs, when in fact she may write beautifully or solve calculus problems faster than they can.

I'm not calling her stupid, but it's hard not to call her ignorant for denying reality in such a blatant way.

Sorry duder, but no that's not my source.

I'll be back to respond in a bit, have to finish studying about the infallible science of finance.

I'll just pre-face by asking any of you if you truly understand the ASSUMPTIONS that are used to apply all these different dating methods.

Forecast: Special pleading of "GOD COULD HAVE MAGICALLY CHANGED THE DECAY RATES OF VARIOUS ELEMENTS FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN TO FUCK WITH US!"

 

[Escape Goat]

Don't you think thats a problem. You believe one group of people even if they were to say hey we were wrong , its really this . But she believes another group of people and thats a problem ?

The truth is we are never going to know how old the earth is we are never going to know what really happened before us . There are allways new pieces to be found , there are allways corrections to past data .

(please note , i really don't beleive the earth is only 6,000 years old . However I'm open minded to science as much as religion because i wasn't alive 6,001 years ago to know if the earth was here)

Does it chafe riding the fence so hard?

 

[Devolution]

Remember what the thread is about.

Is it about a religious woman or is it something more specific?

Seriously do people even read thread titles anymore? God damn.

 

[KtSlime]

Sorry duder, but no that's not my source.

I'll be back to respond in a bit, have to finish studying about the infallible science of finance.

I'll just pre-face by asking any of you if you truly understand the ASSUMPTIONS that are used to apply all these different dating methods.

Science is not infallible, it just has a built-in means for self-correction. And they are not assumptions, rather they are explanatory models which are thoroughly tested and derived from inferred reasonings based on available evidence.

 

[Mahonay]

No, he's saying people who believe the earth is 6,000 years old are idiots.

Yeah, it's actually not a very complicated reasoning. That's pretty straightforward. There's no subtext there.

It's not a matter of religion, it's a question of general intelligence.

 

[CornBurrito]

Don't you think thats a problem. You believe one group of people even if they were to say hey we were wrong , its really this . But she believes another group of people and thats a problem ?

The truth is we are never going to know how old the earth is we are never going to know what really happened before us . There are allways new pieces to be found , there are allways corrections to past data .

(please note , i really don't beleive the earth is only 6,000 years old . However I'm open minded to science as much as religion because i wasn't alive 6,001 years ago to know if the earth was here)

Not all beliefs are equally valid.

There is this wonderful thing called evidence, and there is far more evidence for an old earth than there is for a 6000 year old earth.

The earth possibly could be 6000 years old, but I'm open to that possibility in the same way I'm open to the possibility that my dog is actually a highly intelligent alien who performs elaborate tap dances when everyone is asleep.

I really like this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnbFgRv8-Kw

 

[Crash Station]

If someone believes something that's absolutely fucking stupid is true, then yes. It matters.

I wouldn't date a girl with the mind of a small child, so something as ridiculous as this bothers me.

So what's your take on this post? I notice no one has responded to it yet. Do people just not believe him?

Like I said, my friend has two masters degrees. Fantastic at Math, works in a laboratory doing scientific (lol, his scientific research actually has strengthened his belief in God according to him) shit and is smarter than me. Yet he believes the Earth is 6000 years old.

Doesn't automatically make him unintelligent. Arguably I could say he's traditional and naive as shit. But I can't say he lacks intellect because of a matter of personal faith.

So I can't really agree with you there. And I mean we ARGUED about it...full on yelling and all that. Because at the time it blew my fucking mind. Because while I'm not an atheist I know full well the Earth is at least a few billion years old (personally I think it's MUCH older). Do I agree with his view? No. Not at all. But that doesn't make him a full on moron or unintelligent by default.

 

[ReBurn]

The earth is 6,000 years old. Well, it's at least 6,000 years old. Right?

 

[thesoapster]

Seriously do people even read thread titles anymore? God damn.

Not that I did this, but just going to re-state...there are some brilliant people who hold idiotic beliefs, including a young earth. Again, do you think it's fair to judge someone's intelligence entirely based on that one belief they hold? After all I believed it for a long time. I was raised and taught that through and through. I had to venture away to discover anything different.