I'm aware, it was just meant to be a stinger. Homosexuality is very seldom referenced in the New Testament, and at least a few of those references were in a context where the actual message was a warning against pagan sex rituals.
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I'm aware, it was just meant to be a stinger. Homosexuality is very seldom referenced in the New Testament, and at least a few of those references were in a context where the actual message was a warning against pagan sex rituals.
Vermillion
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I honestly don't think people think about what happens at the end of dating. They don't expect to split up nor do they expect to be together for long periods of time.
The answer to your question is yes.
Neko Mimi Mode
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I'm not saying he stick around on the off-chance she change, but that he stick around because he loves her.
Looking at the situation objectively, her belief in a 6000 year old Earth is based solely on what she's been told at Church. It's not a Biblical thing, nor a religious thing. It's a Church thing. I wouldn't rush to kick someone I "love" to the curb because of indoctrination.
sixteen-bit
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If it bothers you enough to make a thread, consider bailing out.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Either get a vasectomy now, or really try and strongly educate (read: un-brainwash her) this girl immediately if you have no plans of bailing out. Don't bring babby into this world and the almighty shit-fight its education is going to unleash.
Vermillion
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Mm, I think there was one verse condemning it in there, though. I remember this because I was trying to argue with my (religious) family about how the New Testament didn't really say homosexuality was wrong. Then they found a verse. IDR which one.
Though in retrospect, this discussion is making me kind of glad I was a Christian once. Knowing certain things is kind of cool. Including the answers to a few religious questions because God knows I asked a lot...
I stopped because I never had any experience with any God
and a girl
But I digress.
Only specific parts are to be taken literally, c'mon!
mclaren777
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Great advice.
Mammoth Jones
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I think people saying "Dump her" are confusing a beliefe that the Earth is 6000 years old with being a horrible person.
I'm saying, let's say you meet an AMAZING person. Wonderful, intelligent, capable, loving, everything you could want....BUT she believed the Earth was 6000 years old.
Now some people are saying to throw away ALL that because of a single belief?
That doesn't make sense. I mean, neither does her belief in the Earth's age....but c'mon...
Count Dookkake
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It's not an instant mark of her being a bad person, but it's certainly worrisome. We live in a world that's been build by scientific discoveries that don't really give a fig about religion, and attitude toward science is something I consider pretty important...
I sure as shit wouldn't want her to pass that on to my kids.
No, I'm sure she's a fine person. She believes the earth is 6000 years old and she looks upon anything that challenges her worldview with suspicion and derision. Now I may be projecting my own attitudes and beliefs onto the OP in saying this but that shit just wouldn't work. It would not work. Do you really think a relationship like that would work out in the truly long term? I don't see how when they have such fundamentally different viewpoints on the world.
Vermillion
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Okay, damn, that too. You're right.
It's a single belief that probably won't affect anything (if they decide that they'd let their child choose and figure it out on its own).
Ghost_Protocol
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Serious question: How does she feel about you NOT believing the world is 6000 years old? How does she feel about you NOT believing in creationism? If she doesn't care, and doesn't try to convince you otherwise every chance she gets, then that speaks volumes about her respect for you/ respect for your relationship.
Deified Data
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OP, I couldn't be with someone if I didn't respectn their beliefs, or vice versa. You both seem very dismissive of eachother. If some mutual understanding isn't reached, your relationship will fail.
You know, as an aside, I never understood why devoutly religious people socialize/befriend/date non-religious people, especially if they show no interest in converting. Just imagine what's going on in her mind: "I love him, but...sucks he has to burn in hell."
You know, as an aside, I never understood why devoutly religious people socialize/befriend/date non-religious people, especially if they show no interest in converting. Just imagine what's going on in her mind: "I love him, but...sucks he has to burn in hell."
Neko Mimi Mode
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Every relationship requires some compromise to work in the long term.
Vermillion
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Again, if they decide that their child can decide on its own, it's a non-issue.
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kittens
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I honestly couldn't date someone who believed that. Definite deal breaker.
wat no that's dumb. We shouldn't allow children to make up facts. If you're not teaching your child, you're not doing your job as a parent.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Let the children decide for themselves? That probably makes too much sense to work though.
Compromise isn't easy for either side, but it's the price of staying together.
There's teaching and there's indoctrinating and forcing decisions that should be personal.
Child decide on it's own? Children aren't really good at reasoning you know that right? They parrot what you tell them.
Always-honest
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If she would stick to that opinion after a solid showcase of truth, same here... same here.
Ollie Pooch
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For me, it'd probably be due to the fact that the belief is so fucking stupid and unfounded that I couldn't even comprehend how someone can wilfully ignore mountains of evidence showing the contrary. If you truly believe something like the world being 6,000 years old, then I feel sorry for you.
TheNatural
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You need to lighten up dude. Some of you take this shit way too seriously, the whole religion vs. science thing.
Blind faith? You want blind faith, hey it's that time of a year: it's called spring training. Where every fan, fanatic, and follower believes hope springs eternal from the Chicago Cubs fan to the Seattle Mariners fan, they all think they have a shot, and the career .240 hitter is going to bust through for an All Star year.
Yeah, you probably think it's a ridiculous example that I bring up sports, but I actually find people like yourself OP, more ridiculous, because at least the blind followers of sports teams actually have a payoff in the end, so it's actually a more relevant debate. This religion vs. science debate? There is no payoff.
You die, and after you die you live after you die or you stay dead after you die, and you don't know until you die. But yet, people spend their whole life arguing about it, some people in each camp both acting doggedly sure of what they know and intolerant of what others believe based on what you were told and believe to be true as you grew up. Whether or not it's true is irrelevant, what is relevant though is how you live your life being tolerant of others, no matter what someone believes.
Give me the nice person who believes the earth is 200 years old and can have fun and live carefree over the dogged annoying keyboard warrior who thinks he's changing the world by yelling at the seat of his computer because other people don't think what he thinks. Grow up OP.
Blind faith? You want blind faith, hey it's that time of a year: it's called spring training. Where every fan, fanatic, and follower believes hope springs eternal from the Chicago Cubs fan to the Seattle Mariners fan, they all think they have a shot, and the career .240 hitter is going to bust through for an All Star year.
Yeah, you probably think it's a ridiculous example that I bring up sports, but I actually find people like yourself OP, more ridiculous, because at least the blind followers of sports teams actually have a payoff in the end, so it's actually a more relevant debate. This religion vs. science debate? There is no payoff.
You die, and after you die you live after you die or you stay dead after you die, and you don't know until you die. But yet, people spend their whole life arguing about it, some people in each camp both acting doggedly sure of what they know and intolerant of what others believe based on what you were told and believe to be true as you grew up. Whether or not it's true is irrelevant, what is relevant though is how you live your life being tolerant of others, no matter what someone believes.
Give me the nice person who believes the earth is 200 years old and can have fun and live carefree over the dogged annoying keyboard warrior who thinks he's changing the world by yelling at the seat of his computer because other people don't think what he thinks. Grow up OP.
RobotMafia
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I don't think I could do anything but laugh at a girl if she told me something like that. You have to wonder what other crazy is going on with her.
As someone who has been through something similar as the OP, no, this is not likely to work. She wanted hers to be the only way. That relationship ended.
Yeah, I'm sure the young earth creationist that was raised in what is practically a separate society will be okay with this.
I think you're being naive about this.
This has nothing to do with being a keyboard warrior and if you think that another 5 years down the line this is going to be less of an issue you are kidding yourself.
We're not talking about a "I think pizza is disgusting" kind of opinion here.
Yeah, can't imagine this person existing. Biblical literalism demonstrates a way of thinking that I am incompatible with. Everything I want (like a rational, interested in science person) and believed the world was 6000 years old? Not happening.
TheKaeptain
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You should point out that Jesus isn't the one that says it though.
Deified Data
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Is that generally something parents do? Why would a caring religious parent allow even the smallest chance of condemning their kids to hell? In my experience, religious people suck at compromise. Why would they compromise when they're right?
The Albatross
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BTW, wondering if it's happened in this thread where "7th day adventist" has been ignored and "any religious person" has been implied?
Neko Mimi Mode
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I think you're generalizing about this. Do you know the OPs girlfriend? How do you know she doesn't love him enough to compromise?
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kittens
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Naw man, Satan placed those fossils there to fool us sinners.
Omegasquash
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The best answer is to not argue about it, but please do try having a different belief imposed on you. As belief can dictate action, there's a very high chance that it will happen, and with an increased frequency. There are exceptions to that "rule," but take it as you will.
And sports at least bring money to a town. And it's also tangible. And I don't even follow them.
Vermillion
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That's not what I mean - I mean if they let the child grow up and figure out what it believes for itself. The age of the Earth is hardly something that important growing up.
If both parents nurtured a healthy scientific interest, it should be fine. It's kind of like believing in Santa, really. Kids just grow out of it. And children could learn things from both sides. If she'd force the child to go to church, though... then we have a problem.
Mengy
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She is fine with it. She knows what the majority believe and is content to allow all of us "science believers" to go on deluded, lol. She does seem to enjoy trying to convince me, even though she knows full well that she can't. It's become a running joke of sorts between us, kind of playful actually.
Oh no, she liked it. She is a huge Kurt Russell fan, so I was surprised she had never seen it.
SCULLIBUNDO
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So long as you don't plan on having children with her before getting her fixed, I say go with the flow.
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