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Blu_LED said:
God damn the Wii sucks. How is it that I own the best selling console, and don't want to buy a single game for it this holiday season?
I don't know. What good games haven't you bought yet?
 
I think this probably has ended up being the Wii's worst year. I mean, it's REALLY fucking bad.

Then again, getting over the sins of Wii Music will take time. Just like you don't rape your dog in front of your family and just pretend everything is hunkey dorey directly afterwards, these wounds and trauma will take time to heal.
 
Stumpokapow said:
Maybe, maybe not. But I don't really think that's fair. People promote a lot of niche stuff (for example, de Blob, Boom Blox, Wario, Mushroom Men, Deadly Creatures) as being good. I agree that those, or at least the three that are released, are good games. When people say "lol who cares about obscure stuff like that", I don't think that's fair. Disaster seems to fit very squarely in that bracket---it doesn't appeal to everyone, but the people who like it, love it. That's true for a lot of Wii software.

I don't think all those games are "niche" but thats a whole other thing. I have seen people who "like" D Day but never someone who really puts it up-and-beyond avrg myself (well, 1 person actually but yea, I don't see it as the "the ones who like it really love it" type of game).

I think D Day fits fairly in the "average-mediocre" area from what I have seen (presentation) and read (impressions). I don't expect people to take to it like NMH/ Boom Blox for example because it's just not that type of "niche" game that, even if it doesn't appeal to tons of folks, would still be seen as great and sell well . . . it just seems avrg from the look of it.



For a lot of us, the Christmas holidays (I work in publishing, so I'm off work from around the 21st until around the 3rd, school ends around the 15th to the 5th) are the main reason why we value having a lot of games to look forward for now.
Sooooo it is just the "ONLY got a Wii and have gotten EVERY game they are interested in for it already" crowd? (X-Mas may mean jack shit to me but I still gotz 2 weeks off! Thats why I plan on buying the games I don't have yet like NMH)

schuelma said:
They could have localized Fatal Frame and Disaster. I'm sure they wouldn't have sold much, but I bet they could have done decent given the lack of any other decent options this holiday.
Given how D Day was a flop everwhere else and FF4 isn't even confirmed to be published by NoA for the States I don't think that adds up to "much more sells". (I don't think people will buy D Day because of lack of other options in that area. Seems more likely that people would buy other 3rd party titles because of that.)

I think this probably has ended up being the Wii's worst year. I mean, it's REALLY fucking bad.
Quoted for the funny!

People forget sooo fast . . . can't remember the first half of 08 :lol
 
Considering their 2008 hardcore output is basically SSB:B in march(originally a 2008 game) and the Wario game that came out of nowhere, I really don't think they care much right now. Basically they'll send out whatever they have done and thats that.

Good news though, Rythm Heaven is coming sometime early 2009 :D
 
Stupid question time... why are we entirely ignoring Wii Ware releases? Is it possible NCL/NOA is planning to fill some empty months with some downloadable games?

I mean, there is that Wii Ware Wario Ware thing that should be coming at some point...
 
loosus said:
I think this probably has ended up being the Wii's worst year.

Eh? Just the fall is bad. o_O

DavidDayton said:
why are we entirely ignoring Wii Ware releases? Is it possible NCL/NOA is planning to fill some empty months with some downloadable games?

My fridge! My fridge!

WiiWare is a non-starter until the "storage solution" comes out, unfortunately.
 
Black-Wind said:
Quoted for the funny!

People forget sooo fast . . . can't remember the first half of 08 :lol
Mario Kart and Smash Bros alone makes for a good year does not

donny2112 said:
Eh? Just the fall is bad. o_O
2008 is the Wii's worst year unless you are willing to argue that 2006 or 2007 were somehow even worse
 
loosus said:
I think this probably has ended up being the Wii's worst year. I mean, it's REALLY fucking bad.

Then again, getting over the sins of Wii Music will take time. Just like you don't rape your dog in front of your family and just pretend everything is hunkey dorey directly afterwards, these wounds and trauma will take time to heal.

Well, I bought more Wii games this year than the total games I own for PS3.

Just sayin'.
 
polyh3dron said:
A core gamer I see.. Nintendo has heard your call for games that appeal to core gamers such as yourself and has recently released Animal Crossing: City Folk for your hardcore gaming enjoyment.

What's funny is that in the Gamecube era Animal Crossing was "hardcore"

Now that it's popular it's become "casual"
 
loosus said:
Then again, getting over the sins of Wii Music will take time. Just like you don't rape your dog in front of your family and just pretend everything is hunkey dorey directly afterwards, these wounds and trauma will take time to heal.

You're a retard.

I mean, seriously.

Sins of Wii Music
 
PataHikari said:
What's funny is that in the Gamecube era Animal Crossing was "hardcore"

Now that it's popular it's become "casual"
In the Gamecube era Nintendo didn't tout Animal Crossing as their one major offering to hardcore gamers in the holiday season. That's the joke.
 
donny2112 said:
I remember Summer 2003 being really empty for some reason.
Didn't we get Mario Golf, Wario World, Lost Kingdoms, PN03, Soul Calibur II and F-Zero GX that summer?

PataHikari said:
What's funny is that in the Gamecube era Animal Crossing was "hardcore"
I have no idea who would've ever considered that game hardcore. It was unique and quirky. Easy to get into and appealing for both boys and girls. Basically, it was the first really casual game Nintendo had made. If you compare to the Wii____ stuff they've been making lately, it could be seen as a little more "hard" but we don't live in a vacuum so AC has never been hardcore.
 
Dragona Akehi said:
Well, I bought more Wii games this year than the total games I own for PS3.

Just sayin'.

That's not hard to do.

My Wii purchases in 2008: SSBB, Mario Kart Wii, Mega Man 9, Harvest Moon (SNS), Super Mario Bros. (NES), Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES), Super Mario World (SNS)

My PS3 purchases in total: Heavenly Sword, Mega Man 9, flOw
 
They don't have to release anything. It seems that 90% of the Wii's fanbase are content buying waggle enhanced cell phone games for it.
 
I haven't given less of a shit about Nintendo since I bought the PS2. I mean, it's bad now. I kinda had to find shit to put on my Christmas list for my mom just so it wouldn't look like I hate Nintendo.

And I don't. I love the characters and games, but holy fuck...
 
PataHikari said:
What's funny is that in the Gamecube era Animal Crossing was "hardcore"

Now that it's popular it's become "casual"
What planet were you been living in? :lol

And Animal Crossings problem was two-fold: Reggie hyped it up as a big game for "core gamers" before it was revealed to be Animal Crossing, and the game itself just ended up being a horribly lazy port.
 
Geek said:
Neither of these two groups matter to Nintendo.

That's... really not true, unless you're one of GAF's patented armchair MBAs who somehow think that "the profit generated by sales of X million Wii hardware consoles" is equal to "the profit generated by sales of X million Wii hardware consoles, plus a fuckton of first and third party software to the buyers of those consoles."

Black-Wind said:
How can they do that?
:/

Localize previously Japan-only titles? Partner closely with US development houses to release second-party core-gamer titles in genres that don't see development in Japan but are popular here? Dig into the library of titles unreleased for GameCube and start publishing them as Wii titles? Go behind NCL's back to release a storage solution and start ramping up your WiiWare and VC release schedules to halfway decent levels?
 
WAIT, FE: DS comes out next week in Eroupe and no one is talking about the game. SHAME ON YOU GAF, its import time, someone give me links to import it please
 
donny2112 said:
Try saying that with a straight face after they blow out what all games will be using Motion+. ;)

At this point, I literally expect this to be used in Wii Sports Resort, one terrible Wii * game that continues Wii Music's tradition of being totally pointless for both core gamers and the expanded market, and, like... one WiiWare puzzle game.

I'm not exaggerating here or engaging in hyperbole; this is literally what I predict Nintendo has planned for use with this INCREDIBLE NEW DEVICE.
 
M3wThr33 said:
I haven't given less of a shit about Nintendo since I bought the PS2. I mean, it's bad now. I kinda had to find shit to put on my Christmas list for my mom just so it wouldn't look like I hate Nintendo.

And I don't. I love the characters and games, but holy fuck...

Why does your mom have to think that you don't hate Nintendo? I was asked if there were any Wii games I wanted for a buy-two-get-one-free sale on Wii games, but I couldn't in good conscience name a single title. There's just absolutely nothing.
 
DavidDayton said:
Stupid question time... why are we entirely ignoring Wii Ware releases? Is it possible NCL/NOA is planning to fill some empty months with some downloadable games?
Absolutely it's possible, but mere possibilities don't do much to alleviate the concerns of those asking to hear something concrete. Besides, considering how first-party WiiWare releases have gone so far, I'm not sure I'd put too much hope in that particular possibility...
 
So so so disappointed in Nintendo. All those years of rooting for Nintendo to get back on top, never could I have possibly anticipated that this is what it would be like. :P
 
Cheesemeister said:
That's not hard to do.

My Wii purchases in 2008: SSBB, Mario Kart Wii, Mega Man 9, Harvest Moon (SNS), Super Mario Bros. (NES), Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES), Super Mario World (SNS)

My PS3 purchases in total: Heavenly Sword, Mega Man 9, flOw

So if the Wii is "absolutely fucking horrible", what is PS3?

A mystery of the ages.
 
charlequin said:
At this point, I literally expect this to be used in Wii Sports Resort, one terrible Wii * game that continues Wii Music's tradition of being totally pointless for both core gamers and the expanded market, and, like... one WiiWare puzzle game.

I'm not exaggerating here or engaging in hyperbole; this is literally what I predict Nintendo has planned for use with this INCREDIBLE NEW DEVICE.

Given how little we've heard about it other than Wii Sports Resort, I think I agree with you.
 
UraMallas said:
Didn't we get Mario Golf, Wario World, Lost Kingdoms, PN03, Soul Calibur II and F-Zero GX that summer?

I bought none of those until Mario Golf was reduced to $20, and that was mainly to be able to play as my GBA characters. That's probably why I remember it being so empty. On the plus side, it gave a lot of time to explore SSBM with the AR. :D

PataHikari said:
What's funny is that in the Gamecube era Animal Crossing was "hardcore"

AC was the first game I remember being debated whether it was a "non-game" or not.
 
Stumpokapow said:
I did forget that Mushroom Men was out in 2008, as well as Skate It (77) and ToS DotNW (68). I guess you could also include MySims 2 (76). I just edited those back in. I also added MK v DC for the two HD systems and Lips for 360.

I'm not going to recommend CV Judgment (55), Rayman Rabbids 3 (67), or Clone Wars (58). for the same reason that I didn't recommend Fracture or You're in the Movies. I didn't recommend Tomb Raider or Sean White for either system despite 70-odd averages for both, or Quantum of Solace for any system.

YOU'RE ON MY SHIT LIST

This year is really disappointing for the Wii :(
 
donny2112 said:
I bought none of those until Mario Golf was reduced to $20, and that was mainly to be able to play as my GBA characters. That's probably why I remember it being so empty. On the plus side, it gave a lot of time to explore SSBM with the AR. :D
My point wasn't that it appealed to you personally, more that there were plenty of games that Summer across many genres that could appeal to more "hardcore" people like F-Zero and Lost Kingdoms and there was no shortage of traditional games either. Where as this Summer was a lot different, imo.

donny2112 said:
AC was the first game I remember being debated whether it was a "non-game" or not.
Totally agree here. I don't know who was calling Animal Crossing hardcore back then. Nobody I know, I also was debating on wheter or not it was a game but with some of the stuff coming out now I'd definitely classify AC as a game, comparitively.
 
charlequin said:
At this point, I literally expect this to be used in Wii Sports Resort, one terrible Wii * game that continues Wii Music's tradition of being totally pointless for both core gamers and the expanded market, and, like... one WiiWare puzzle game.

I'm not exaggerating here or engaging in hyperbole; this is literally what I predict Nintendo has planned for use with this INCREDIBLE NEW DEVICE.

I hope that's not the case.

I'm hoping/semi-expecting them to make Wii Motion+ the defacto new standard, eventually build it in to the standard Wii-Mote, and essentially re-launch the Wii. To do that, they'll need a big lineup of upcoming games that use it. 1st-party wise has been way under outputting lately, and the latter half of 2008 has been mostly barren. They can't have just been sitting on their massive piles of cash and giggling like school girls this whole time, right?

The non-exclusive nature of the technology could be an issue, but if that's the direction Nintendo wants to go, I'm pretty sure they can "convince" them to exclusively license the patent to Nintendo.
 
Heck, Wii Motion+ will come out with a 'redesigned' Wii, or Wii+, which is unhackable and has double the memory of the first (slightly bigger fridge). That said, sales are going through the roof and it's not 'static' by any means...
 
hmm lets see i just got.

Castlevania judgment
skate it
TOS dotnw
animal crossing

all very good games. I do not understand the wii hate.
 
donny2112 said:
They can't have just been sitting on their massive piles of cash and giggling like school girls this whole time, right?

Remember when they announced they were slowing down DS development, and we were all excited about the huge new increase in Wii development that was going to make up for it?

speculawyer said:
They don't need to release anything.

Sony and Microsoft don't "need" to release anything either, but they still do because, oh, maybe they might be publically-owned companies interested in profitability?
 
February releases if the EBgames.com leak is to be believed:

Fire Emblem DS
Mario Tennis Wii-make
DK Jungle Beat Wii-make
 
MrCheez said:
So so so disappointed in Nintendo. All those years of rooting for Nintendo to get back on top, never could I have possibly anticipated that this is what it would be like. :P
Yeah. Never in my worst nightmares during the GameCube era did I imagine Nintendo would become this. I mean, I figured when they were on top, we'd get more co-licensed properties like Four Swords and a consistent release of top quality titles.

Now they just want to teach people how to cook and read.

charlequin said:
Remember when they announced they were slowing down DS development, and we were all excited about the huge new increase in Wii development that was going to make up for it?

Yeah, I gave up on the DS long ago. Traditional RPGs don't excite me and Castlevania is too stale of a formula now.
 
charlequin said:
Sony and Microsoft don't "need" to release anything either, but they still do because, oh, maybe they might be publically-owned companies interested in profitability?
Those two need to . . . but people seem to continue buying lots of old Wii titles, so they really don't have much pressure on them to release lots more.
 
M3wThr33 said:
Yeah. Never in my worst nightmares during the GameCube era did I imagine Nintendo would become this. I mean, I figured when they were on top, we'd get more co-licensed properties like Four Swords and a consistent release of top quality titles.

Now they just want to teach people how to cook and read.
Hubris, my boy... Hubris.
 
speculawyer said:
Those two need to . . . but people seem to continue buying lots of old Wii titles, so they really don't have much pressure on them to release lots more.

This is like the simplistic thinking where Microsoft "isn't competing" with Nintendo because they have an HD system or whatever. There's always room to sell more software -- all those people who buy Wiis and Wii Fit could be foregoing a 360 game, or 3 DVDs, or 1/2 of a GPS system, so that they could buy a Wii and Wii Fit and Wii Rapping (or whatever).
 
Next gen if Nintendo uses it new found fortune to put out an uber console you guys are still going to find something to complain about.
 
charlequin said:
Remember when they announced they were slowing down DS development, and we were all excited about the huge new increase in Wii development that was going to make up for it?

Would games started being developed in that timeframe have been finished before Nintendo realized that Motion+ was coming? I really believe that Nintendo would've had more games out in the last 6 months, if they hadn't pushed them back for Motion+.
 
grandjedi6 said:
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This is perhaps the single most important thing Penny Arcade ever did. Because it's spot on.

Basically, it's the new face and attitude of Nintendo.
 
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