• Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!

So people are pirating phone games now?

Lijik said:
tumblr_lcrx0pTPm51qasia0o1_500.gif
Would if I could! I'm craving a Pizza right now.

On topic though. It's been going on for years. Don't blame them in some cases really, games were sold for like £5 on older handsets I had. They were pretty rubbish too.
 
Phone games don't appear to have any quality control. I'd rather pay £30 for a console game that I know is going to run rather than a £3 phone that has been developed by apes.
 
Pirates gonna pirate.

In their eyes, all those $1 games (which they probably wouldn't have bought in the first place) add up to a bigger overall 'saving'.
 
I NEED SCISSORS said:
Pirates gonna pirate.

In their eyes, all those $1 games (which they probably wouldn't have bought in the first place) add up to a bigger overall 'saving'.
Or they're just children or other people without money or access to a CC.
 
I don't see the point in pirating cheap iPhone apps/games though I suppose it's kinda the same like pirating music (a song and an app cost around the same on average). If you can afford however many hundreds of pounds/dollars it is for the smart phone then you should be able to afford the £0.60/1$ per game (I know there are more expensive games available, most are dirt cheap though).
 
whalleywhat said:
Or they're just children or other people without money or access to a CC.

This, too. It might be unbelievably easy for some people, but to those without access to CC or other payment method pirating is the "easier" way.
 
Ever since iPhone jailbreaking first happened, people have been pirating smartphone games.
 
This has been going on for a decade. There is an whole organised scene doing this. My younger cousin was telling me about how at his school (he's 13), the kids all have hacked iphones and ipods and they all trade each other hacked apps by wifi (or i guess bluetooth?).
 
vareon said:
This, too. It might be unbelievably easy for some people, but to those without access to CC or other payment method pirating is the "easier" way.
This is specially true outside the US/Europe/Japan, where few people have credit cards and even when they do, their cards don't work for online purchases because most have cards which cannot make international purchases and the online stores haven't opened branches in their countries.

And smartphones are still phones, and for many people the games there are still "phone games". I remember people pirating the fuck out of J2ME mobile games in the pre-smartphone days and they just carry over their "modus operandi" to their new phones.

Heck, it was even easier to pay for J2ME games since carriers would offer games on their portals and buying one would put the charge directly on your phone bill. And people still pirated because they were on prepaid.
 
I used to get really po'd about this and whined about it on a couple of forums. Everyone would respond "those people would never have paid for your app in the 1st place," which is probably true in several cases - so a developer can't really consider that it is lost profit :( The upside of it is that maybe it will just get more people talking about your app and maybe even result in some actual sales. Anyway there's enough people out there that do pay for apps, that one can make some decent money if they hit the spot properly.

I am in no way condoning piracy, btw. When one of my gf's friends' house got burgled and moaned about it on Facebook, I chuckled to myself "yeah, how does it feel!" (he used to flaunt to me how he refused to ever pay for anything online, and downloaded everything illegally)
 
As an attempt to justify why people pirate $1-2 dollar games is that it adds up, quickly.
The day I got my iPad I got like $80 worth of games and one or two apps… Yes, 99 cents add up quickly, with some $5-10 games in the middle.
I also spent around $80 again during christmas time because of the huge wave of discounts… And I only got $1-2 games. I doubt I got more than 10 hours out of those, too.
 
Piracy will never go away, as Wario64 put it. But, stealing IS stealing and its to me that simple. People may try to justify it as an "entitlement" or a "right" but its neither of which.

It's a service provided for entertainment in exchange for money.
 
johnsmith said:
The time and effort involved in jailbreaking my iphone and searching for downloads isn't worth saving 99 cents. I'd rather pay a buck and support the dev. If you pirate a 99 cent app, you're scum, end of story.

The thing is now, you only need to go to a website to jailbreak your iPhone...
 
I hate the pirates that act like they hacked the pentagon to get an episode of Dexter. And get confused when you said you pay for it, like you don't have the mental ability to hack it for free! It's the easiest thing ever now indays. I think tween girls are the #1 stealers of music even. Some of us just choose to support the industry...
 
I have jailbroken my iPhone in the past (but now have beta of ios 5 on it, so no longer) and never pirated a thing. One of the main values I think this gives me is instant updates as soon as a new version of an app is pushed out. I dunno, maybe the pirating community already has that too.
 
BigNastyCurve said:
I have jailbroken my iPhone in the past (but now have beta of ios 5 on it, so no longer) and never pirated a thing. One of the main values I think this gives me is instant updates as soon as a new version of an app is pushed out. I dunno, maybe the pirating community already has that too.
Do you still have to pay $100 for it? i want the Beta -_-
 
watership said:
People flock to Android phones because other people tell them "You never have to buy another app again".

Want sell your app? Avoid Android.

It's clear you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Just sayin...
 
It's easy to hack all 3 major smartphone platforms. Most cases you plug it into a computer, run a program and BAM! Hacked. Android you just have to enable and click a box. It's much easier.

You have a lot of kids and a lot of people barely coasting by on part time or minimum wage jobs. WP7, ios and Android have hacked markets where you can get almost everything free, making it as easy or easier than the official market.

And this is why you will never see many good games on iOS and Android, so these "Smartphones killing handhelds" should cease.
 
Apple should make purchased iOS games tied to your Gamecenter handle via some kind of serial code. Then subtly DRM check it when you run a game.

People who pirate games are either poor people or just plain idiots.

"Don't you realise that if everyone did what you do, there would be no games?"

"Herp derp duuuuurrrrrrrp hurp"
 
Barberetti said:
The argument is that "if companies lowered game prices, piracy would be reduced".

I'm not really sure, people who pirate on $60 game probably won't see the need to stop pirate on a $40 game. better argument is probably that it will used game sales or renting. people who are used to the piracy is still going to pirate it.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
You have no idea how hard I would pirate pizzas

I would set up a server specifically downloading pizzas 24/7

No, I wouldn't because if there was some way to digitally distribute pizzas I'd gladly pay for that shit.
 
Piracy has been rampant on cell phones for quite some time. More often than not a game's been pirated more than it's been sold.
 
Callibretto said:
I'm not really sure, people who pirate on $60 game probably won't see the need to stop pirate on a $40 game. better argument is probably that it will used game sales or renting. people who are used to the piracy is still going to pirate it.

There are plenty of people who both pirate and buy depending on the price, quality of the product and the money they can spend of course.

In fact according to Valve's stats 1/3 of gamers on Steam have a popular torrent client installed..
 
angular graphics said:
There are plenty of people who both pirate and buy depending on the price, quality of the product and the money they can spend of course.

In fact according to Valve's stats 1/3 of gamers on Steam have a popular torrent client installed..

how can they know their steam user have torrent client?
 
Zefah said:
Ever since iPhone jailbreaking first happened, people have been pirating smartphone games.

When I made my first game, a phone one, i goggled it checking for reviews, and all the first google page was russian phone games piracy forums. At least (checked after using a russian-english translator) they liked the game.
 
Not everybody has an US credit card, and also a lot of people buy Apple devices just for the great number and variety of apps and games, so they jailbreak their device and download whatever they want.

ShockingAlberto said:
You have no idea how hard I would pirate pizzas

I would set up a server specifically downloading pizzas 24/7

I've made homemade pizzas :( so i'm a pirate
 
Callibretto said:
how can they know their steam user have torrent client?
The Steam Hardware & Software Survey

a little ot:
I've always thought that it was really ignorant/unfair to assume people with torrent clients on their computer are pirating games.

Sure I "pirate" television shows in order to catch up, but do I consider myself a pirate? no. I have the total hd television/cable/phone package that costs $150 per month, but goddamn is that shitty motorola cable dvr such ass, or that on demand service fucking stupid because they release new episodes 8 days later preventing me from catching up.

I think if cable/broadcasters were would get their head out of their ass and make television watching convenient, (prepare for a figure out of my ass) you would see the prevalence of torrent clients on steam users' computers dwindle below 10%.
 
Top Bottom