They should.
And Persona 5. And Disgaea 5. And the many more games they won't be getting over the next years as sales remain low (not only in Japan, but elsewhere), it's PS2-era all over again, where one system gets the majority of exclusives and as a result will continue to outsell the other systems exponentially, resulting in even more exclusives for said system.
That's a ripple effect you should never want.
Having such a good time with the Xbox so far. Decided to upgrade my TV today as well.
Having such a good time with the Xbox so far. Decided to upgrade my TV today as well.
I wouldn't be so quick to assume those games aren't making their way to Xbone.
Transparent umbrellas, yo that's Japan alright!Everything I know about Japan is from Persona
Enjoy your console, my friend!
I wouldn't be so quick to assume those games aren't making their way to Xbone.
We all thought a major third party going (timed) exclusive was an impossibility given how far behind they are but MS opened the chequebook (TR). If anything, I'd argue Japanese devs are more susceptible to this sort of practice but whether MS thinks it's worth it who knows.
Maybe they should. Otherwise why should a fan of Japanese games buy their system when only a small few are on it? IDK, I thought it was odd they basically gave up at the drop of a hat after 2009.
Was at a big Aeon mall in Kyoto earlier this week, went into a large random electronic store there and there was a fair bit of Xbox products actually, I thought it would be far less:
Of course they gave up in 2009. Technically, they really gave up in 2008 honestly. I would go as far as to say they have a better chance in this climate than they did last gen.
Was at a big Aeon mall in Kyoto earlier this week, went into a large random electronic store there and there was a fair bit of Xbox products actually, I thought it would be far less:
I wouldn't be so quick to assume those games aren't making their way to Xbone.
We all thought a major third party going (timed) exclusive was an impossibility given how far behind they are but MS opened the chequebook (TR). If anything, I'd argue Japanese devs are more susceptible to this sort of practice but whether MS thinks it's worth it who knows.
I think that MS could become much more succesfull in Asia, if they got some asian 1st party studios focusing on making games for that market. Instead of only relying on the asian third parties there. :-/
It would probably take a few years for new eventual new asian MS-studios to become profitable, but they'd get a much better/varied game-portofolio.
They could also put out the game on PC a month or two later. :-/
I think Sony would probably have alot less attractive console-platform for us western customers, aswell, if they didn't have the SCEA- and SCEE-studios in the west, making games targeted towards us.
If they only had the SCEJ-games, and one or two bought AAA-exclusives each year, I think we would be much colder towards the platform.
The likelihood that Disgaea is coming to Xbox One is zero.
30 pages. Yikes. So. I wonder if it sold a dozen. Maybe even two dozen. I don't want to get too optimistic, though.
Playstation has such a huge presence there. And I've heard so little about this Japan launch. Admittedly, they're probably just advertising in... you know... Japan... but still.
Practically nothing good came out of any partnerships/timed-exclusivity with Xbox when it came to the 3rd-party devs. Star Ocean bombed with such negative reception that even the PS3 version bombed. Tales bombed. SE's partnerships here and there bombed. Mistwalker deals bombed.
They don't have a better chance this climate because frankly, no one has any opportunity at all. The Japanese console gaming scene is practically living on tethers. No one's willing to take any major risk unless it's on 3DS/mobile, and we're seeing devs capitalise further and further on established IPs in the console space. Just look at Sony's pre-E3 announcement. While it was a good show, it was also a predictable show. The same kind of games we saw on the PS3/Vita, coming from the usual batch of devs, and the same names and IPs in the industry.
Which was why I laughed whenever Mistwalker is brought up as a conversation point when it came to consoles. ( prior to Tera Battle announcement )
There is no more chance. Devs are consolidated, very few independent studios in Japan are left with the ability and resources to scale up into full-blown console development. Not unless MS is willing to invest 10x more than what they invested for the 360, and open up multiple studios in Japan itself with the best talents.
Huh? Isn't the PS4 struggling and the Wii U in first place? Gotta say launching early in that country was the smartest move Nintendo did so far this gen.
Does that mean they will win? Maybe, maybe not, but they have a better chance of keeping up at least. I can see wii U and Ps4 falling to the 1k easily around 2016 at the current pacing. It could be a sales comparison such as: Xbox One: 2 million, PS4: 4.5 Million, Wii U: 7 million. The fact those numbers are not to crazy just shows how bad it currently is over there and how no consoles are moving. When everything is static, that's probably the best chance.
It's pretty crazy that shelf space for the Wii U was dropped so fast in the West (or even barely created in the first place), but in Japan the 360, after so many years, still have that much shelf space. I'm sure it differs per store, but it's still amazing to see so much space given to a dead console in Japan.
PS4 is struggling because it has no games. WiiU is doing less than satisfactory for a console that has already launched several system seller class games. (3D World, Mario Kart) but it should do better in coming months, etc as Smash and the 2015 games come rolling.
In the end, it's all about the games. Some would argue that PS4 would had been better served if it launched in 2015, ( since all the key Japanese titles only start appearing from 2015 onwards ), but that's just one perspective, because it's debatable that by launching early, Sony establishes an early 600k+ install base without any real effort at all, at the cost of poor weekly sales for the rest of the year.
I can't formulate a proper sentence to respond to you about what I think about your prediction...
Let's just talk about this again in 2-3 weeks, once XB1 numbers come in, and we'll revisit your 2 million estimation.
There is no possible chance that your estimate is based in reality.Xbox One: 2 million
It could be a sales comparison such as: Xbox One: 2 million, PS4: 4.5 Million, Wii U: 7 million. The fact those numbers are not to crazy just shows how bad it currently is over there and how no consoles are moving.
Remember when the 360 numbers came in and were less than the Xbox 1 numbers? Didn't stop 360 from selling more. Plus, as I said. regardless, I think all 3 will be relatively close together due to neither actually moving much. That was my point of sayign it has a better chance than last time.
As for your PS3 debate, an early 600k install bases does not really matter if it takes 2 years to make it to 750k. Like I said Nintendos head start was probably the one smart thing they did.
Transparent umbrellas, yo that's Japan alright!Everything I know about Japan is from Persona
Enjoy your console, my friend!
There is no possible chance that your estimate is based in reality.
They have a better chance because there are no competition and Microsoft is not just grabbing niche games, and rushed next gen games that bomb, or spending money for partner ships with no marketing, with the competition, even early PS3, kicking their butts with more highy received (japanese) games, the Wii pulling in pretty much the rest of whatever audience was left.
Does that mean they will win? Maybe, maybe not, but they have a better chance of keeping up at least. I can see wii U and Ps4 falling to the 1k easily around 2016 at the current pacing. It could be a sales comparison such as: Xbox One: 2 million, PS4: 4.5 Million, Wii U: 7 million. The fact those numbers are not to crazy just shows how bad it currently is over there and how no consoles are moving. When everything is static, that's probably the best chance.
Does that mean they will win? Maybe, maybe not, but they have a better chance of keeping up at least. I can see wii U and Ps4 falling to the 1k easily around 2016 at the current pacing. It could be a sales comparison such as: Xbox One: 2 million, PS4: 4.5 Million, Wii U: 7 million.
They have a better chance because there are no competition and Microsoft is not just grabbing niche games, and rushed next gen games that bomb, or spending money for partner ships with no marketing, with the competition, even early PS3, kicking their butts with more highy received (japanese) games, the Wii pulling in pretty much the rest of whatever audience was left.
Does that mean they will win? Maybe, maybe not, but they have a better chance of keeping up at least. I can see wii U and Ps4 falling to the 1k easily around 2016 at the current pacing. It could be a sales comparison such as: Xbox One: 2 million, PS4: 4.5 Million, Wii U: 7 million. The fact those numbers are not to crazy just shows how bad it currently is over there and how no consoles are moving. When everything is static, that's probably the best chance.
There is no possible chance that your estimate is based in reality.
Like I said, we'll talk later. As far as I'm concerned right now, I don't feel like I'm talking to someone with their head on the ground when it comes to Japan.
Sorry if that sounds rude.
So do we have a day 1 number yet?
Does that mean they will win? Maybe, maybe not, but they have a better chance of keeping up at least. I can see wii U and Ps4 falling to the 1k easily around 2016 at the current pacing. It could be a sales comparison such as: Xbox One: 2 million, PS4: 4.5 Million, Wii U: 7 million. The fact those numbers are not to crazy just shows how bad it currently is over there and how no consoles are moving. When everything is static, that's probably the best chance.
Or you can view those numbers I listed above as examples instead of serious estimates. The whole point was that all the consoles are going to be moving slowly.
I don't think they'll even release numbers or make a PR statement.
I'm going to guess day one numbers are in the ballpark of 5k-9k.
You believe that Wii U and PS4 numbers will fall to 1K/week "easily" around 2016 (assuming same for XB1), and yet XB1/PS4/WiiU will break 2M/4.5M/7M by the end of this gen?
Your projection would need some ridiculous sales in 2015.
Not to mention that even if we don't account for your ridiculous sales projection, Wii U will still need to more than double its weekly sales to even hit 7M in the next 3 or so years.
The whole point was consoles were selling slow and I used those low numbers as an example. Even if one would say those numbers are too high, if they were reality they would still be abysmally low. What you are saying is basically proving my point, they may even sell less!
Honestly this may be the last stand for consoles over there unless there is a big change. After this gen at most they might get a 400,000 niche or something.
First of all, your "example" is poor.
If your "whole point was consoles were selling slow", then stating Wii U will hit 7M only undermines the entire purpose of your example and confuses the reader.
Second, you haven't actually given an "example" as to how consoles were actually selling low or how sales are going to be close. What you did was that you made an "assumption" that competition will be lacking and that the sales difference between each console is going to be close. You then gave an example based on that assumption being correct.
This is a classic case of "let's assume my assumption is correct."
I suspect all of this was done so that you can argue for your earlier assumption that "xbox may have a better chance this time." However, you just undermined that by saying "if they were reality they would still be abysmally low"
Congrats on both the console and the TV. I must say that a console could not wish for a better airflow, air from all sides even though there's no intake on the bottom of the console.Having such a good time with the Xbox so far. Decided to upgrade my TV today as well.
I was also given this small fan while strolling through Akiba earlier.