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[18-Volt]

3DS has failed to continue what it had in its first year: Big budget software like Kingdom Hearts, Metal Gear Solid, Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Dead or Alive or Kid Icarus. Nowadays 3DS get either niche stuff (Stella Glow, Popolocrois, Senran Kagura), kiddie stuff (Yokai Watch, Fossil Fighters) or filler software (Chibi Robo Ziplash, AC Happy Home Designer, Federation Force).

There is still hope at the end of the tunnel though; Capcom has MHX and MH Stories, Square has Dragon Quest XI and Atlus has SMT4 Final. Perfect swan song lineup for any handheld fan but people coming from home consoles and PC still won't find what they're looking for.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

post and run, classic op.

 

[MaxwellGT2000]

If only 3DS was a legacy system like Vita.

I know the definition of legacy system is an old outdated system, but why would you hope the 3DS was that?

I'm utterly confused by this thread given how many quality games have come so far just this year and two within a month (Yokai Watch and Triforce Heroes).

 

[finch]

Huh. I'm always afraid i'll get in trouble if i make threads about whatever the hell i'm thinking.

 

[Orniletter]

Boy that New 3DS really did have an epic run.

I have 2 (XL and non-XL). Zero regrets.

Best handhelds ever made.

This is one of those threads where "it doesn't interest me"="it doesn't exist" . Well. To bad for those...I guess.

 

[Gleethor]

So OP just left the thread to die?

 

[Red Devil]

Personally I'm looking forward Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam and Bravely Second stuff the most, there's other interesting stuff but need to see more before deciding, like Final Fantasy Explorers.

I understand what the OP is saying. Yes, there are lots of JRPGs coming out and a Metroid game that no one wants, but what about Mario, StarFox, Advance Wars, Rhythm Heaven (in the west), and any other games other than JRPGs?

Mario already had two games on this console, it's unlikely he'll get another, Star Fox got a remake of the best entry in the series and it won't get another since they're trying to bring it back to consoles, Rhythm Heaven might get localized but it might take a while, Advance Wars is dead and IS is focused on other stuff.

Why do people always start a thread and then disappear? I've always wondered =D

What else gives? OP was wrong but other people(intentionally or not) jumped to echo his mistaken thought.

 

[redcrayon]

I know the definition of legacy system is an old outdated system, but why would you hope the 3DS was that?
.

It's a running joke that the Vita was misquoted as being a legacy console despite having hundreds of upcoming games (Kinda supported by Sony themselves having abandoned major games development for it though).

I think the poster you replied to was implying that they'd like as much to be in development for 3DS, which is very much alive but doesn't have anywhere near as many games being made.

 

[jahasaja]

Nobody is denying that more games are coming out. However, if you are not interested in RPG:s the pickings are quite slim.

 

[Japanmanx3]

So OP just left the thread to die?

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[Darius]

I disagree with OPs premise and there have been listed many good quality games for the upcoming year in this thread with a quite lot variety. As DQ11 and Dragon Quest Monsters J 3 aren´t remakes of previous entries maybe there is even a little possibility to get these in 2017.

It's a running joke that the Vita was misquoted as being a legacy console despite having hundreds of upcoming games (Kinda supported by Sony themselves having abandoned major games development for it though).

I think the poster you replied to was implying that they'd like as much to be in development for 3DS, which is very much alive but doesn't have anywhere near as many games being made.

It wasn´t misquoted, there was just the usual damage control by PR-folks afterwards. It really is an afterthought, financially unimportant to them and sourly missing at all their latest conferences.

 

[TheRealJakoozie]

I agree with the OP. Haven't used my 3DS all year. Feel like an idiot for upgrading to the New 3DS. Why did Nintendo even release it if the console wasn't getting any more support? And all the talk about N3DS-exclusives, and we barely get any games from Nintendo. I feel like I've been tricked.

 

[Zalman]

I agree with the OP. Haven't used my 3DS all year. Feel like an idiot for upgrading to the New 3DS. Why did Nintendo even release it if the console wasn't getting any more support? And all the talk about N3DS-exclusives, and we barely get any games from Nintendo. I feel like I've been tricked.

There was never meant to be a bunch of N3DS exclusives. They never said there was. Why would they split their user base like that? The system was always meant to be a stop-gap.

 

[Delio]

I agree with the OP. Haven't used my 3DS all year. Feel like an idiot for upgrading to the New 3DS. Why did Nintendo even release it if the console wasn't getting any more support? And all the talk about N3DS-exclusives, and we barely get any games from Nintendo. I feel like I've been tricked.

Seriously the N3DS was always just a stepping stone to the next handheld. I knew that and avoided it.

 

[jahasaja]

Looking at it from the bright side, this could mean that the NX will have a legendary first year in terms of first party games.

 

[Darius]

n3DS was presented as a more efficient revision of the original hardware and the biggest highlighted feature was the headtracking 3D. Xenoblade was always presented as a bonus since it wasn´t possible on the original hardware. You really must have been really naive to say the least to expect it to basically get its own substantial library of exclusives instead of enhancing 3DS software and interface, like Smashs shorter loading times and MH4Us better texture quality and so on, advanteges besides better battery-life that are more than good enough in my books for a revision. Kind of silly to basically expect an actual new platform based on a single game that was presented at the reveal. Something that was clear in the reveal and made clear by many people in subsequent discussions in forums.

 

[autoduelist]

It wasn´t misquoted, there was just the usual damage control by PR-folks afterwards. It really is an afterthought, financially unimportant to them and sourly missing at all their latest conferences.

Yes it was a misquote. The business meeting and accompanying slideshow are available online for viewing. It's clear from both context and the slides that he is talking about writing off specific parts, like the oled screen.

 

[Darius]

Yes it was a misquote. The business meeting and accompanying slideshow are available online for viewing. It's clear from both context and the slides that he is talking about writing off specific parts, like the oled screen.

Actions speak louder than words, I give no credit to the subsequent damage control by the PR-folks after the shitstorm Andrew House created. But like it actually matters, even in Japan it´s selling quite badly and declining from an already pitiful level of sales.

 

[DSix]

NX.

 

[RpgN]

There are things to be legitimately disappointed about:

1. The handling of New 3DS: it was promised that it would have exclusive games which did not turn out to be the case.
2. The second half of this year has been fine in terms of quantity but the quality is questionable with certain games, especially ones that are published by Nintendo.
3. Next year's line-up is very uncertain. We have some games we know that are coming in the first few months. But after that we don't know anything. Next year is either going to a bad one or amazing depending on games being localized. If games like Dragon Quest VII, XI, MHX, MHRPG and SMIV Final get announced, then we have nothing to worry about. I really wonder whether we are getting any of the Dragon Quest games that are locked in Japan or whether the train has passed and we should give up on them.

Having said all that, I am very satisfied with the 3DS. We've had many fantastic games throughout its life and we had a decent amount of them. If we are in a period where the 3DS is on its way out, then I can accept that. I'm even incredibly happy with my New 3DS XL. Coming from the first 3DS model to this...bigger screens, more comfortable, better 3D, faster, longer battery etc. I fully understand others who don't feel this way though. Especially the ones who upgraded to other 3DSs before.

I would only feel bad about games that are exclusive in Japan. Those big games need to come over here. It feels so wrong if we don't get them.

 

[autoduelist]

Actions speak louder than words, I give no credit to the subsequent damage control by the PR-folks after the shitstorm Andrew House created. But like it actually matters, even in Japan it´s selling quite badly and declining from an already pitiful level of sales.

What are you talking about? The -actual- quote and slideshow are available online. I'm not talking about damage control, I'm talking about the actual things he said. He was not talking about the Vita itself.

 

[Darius]

What are you talking about? The -actual- quote and slideshow are available online. I'm not talking about damage control, I'm talking about the actual things he said. He was not talking about the Vita itself.

I´m talking about how PSV has been dead for quite some time now when it comes to 1st party support. It´s missing in almost all of their western conferences and has almost no retail releases going forward in US. If you don´t want to see the elephant in the room, fine.

 

[autoduelist]

I´m talking about how PSV has been dead for quite some time now when it comes to 1st party support. It´s missing in almost all of their western conferences and has almost no retail releases in US. If you don´t want to see the elephant in the room, fine.

We aren't discussing how it is doing. We are discussing what House said during an investors meeting. You claimed "It wasn´t misquoted, there was just the usual damage control by PR-folks afterwards".

You are factually wrong, independent of how the Vita is doing. He was not calling the Vita a legacy system. Switching the conversation to how the Vita is doing is just goal post moving. I'm not arguing it's doing well. You can't suddenly claim you're just "talking about how PSV has been dead for quite some time now" when that's not what you were talking about - you specifically said he wasn't misquoted, and he was. Acting as if me correcting you is somehow being blind to the state of the Vita is ridiculous, as it has nothing to do with what we are actually talking about.

 

[Benzychenz]

A lot of people in this thread who think the 3DS is be killed off seem to like to ignore games just because they don't want them. Just because you're not interested in them or their not for you doesn't mean they aren't there and that people won't buy them.

The fact that it's getting mainly low key spinoffs is likely because the mainline entries are being developed for the next platform.

 

[Oregano]

For the people wanting N3DS exclusives the first Unity games are supposed to be launching (relatively) soon and it's likely they will be N3DS only.

 

[ArtHands]

If only 3DS was a legacy system like Vita.

Wouldn't want the 3DS to be a legacy system like the vita

Yes it was a misquote. The business meeting and accompanying slideshow are available online for viewing. It's clear from both context and the slides that he is talking about writing off specific parts, like the oled screen.

The specific quote from Andrew House was "We took a write off, again, of some of our legacy platforms". I don't think its a misquote in any way.

 

[Darius]

Yes it was a misquote. The business meeting and accompanying slideshow are available online for viewing. It's clear from both context and the slides that he is talking about writing off specific parts, like the oled screen.

Speaking about context but disregarding actual market realities, brilliant. Anyway regardless of any damage control, PSV fullfills every checkpoint of a "legacy" platform (euphemism for dying, insignificant) from a hardware manufacturers standpoint. It´s declining everywhere from an already low level to begin with.

 

[Illucio]

I'm sure they're going to announce some new games in that upcoming direct.

But yeah Nintendo is moving a ton of focus onto NX, you can just feel it.

Next years releases:
Zelda U (Because Delayed) - Wii U and possibly NX?
Star Fox Zero (Because Delayed) - Wii U
Twilight Princess HD???? - Wii U
Pokken Tournament (Because GameFreak wanted to make as much money as possible from arcades first.) - Wii U
Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei (Also known as... "#FE") - Wii U

Probably Pokemon Z or XY&Z - 3DS
Probably Dragon Quest 8 3D - 3DS
Bravery Second - 3DS
Monster Hunter X -3DS
Yokai Watch 2??? (If the series ever picks up in America and it's timed/ready for the sequel to be released) - 3DS
Fire Emblem Fates - 3DS
Metroid Prime Shitty Force - 3DS
Zero Escape 3 - 3DS
Sonic Boom Fire and Ice (sigh) - 3DS
Final Fantasy Explorers - 3DS
Mario and Luigi Paper Jam -3DS
Project X Zone 2 - 3DS

Just what I can think of/recall. I'm sure I'm missing some. Still a decent list of games on the 3DS side, half these games are pretty much already out in Japan right now or will be out earlier then 2016. Still it's a decent year already set up, but still a little disappointing considering half of these games should had been released already/this year.

 

[Refreshment.01]

This a good occasion to talk about an important issue.

We see many people opening up a thread with a certain doubt, argument or general statement. The participants take the time to participate explaining or correcting the topic creator. Either the topic creator gets unbelievable stubborn or doesn't bring a closing post in regads to the issue.

This conduct is just downright disrespectful and impolite. Think the message board should have some sort of penalty for evident cases such as this.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Software releases slowing down after 4 years on a system that will be replaced next year...yes shocking.

I know, it is a Nintendo trend to stop supporting your existing console strongly once you have the successor in the pipeline. For all the strengths their systems and software have (SNES, GC, Wii, Wii U, GBA, DS, and 3DS have been enjoyable systems for me overall), this is one of the things that I like least about them and how they treat their customers (not that it matters to some of them as long as they get Nintendo games one way or the other ), but conversely it is a reason why I am most likely to preorder a Sony game console without a second thought more than I would for other manufacturers and what pisses me off about their competition. Sony, with the only notable exception of PS Vita really, has pushed their consoles hard throughout their entire lifecycle. From PS1, to PS2, to PS3, to hopefully PS4... the console was really well supported even after the successor was in the pipeline or even out and sold to consumers.

 

[Refreshment.01]

I know, it is a Nintendo trend to stop supporting your existing console strongly once you have the successor in the pipeline. For all the strengths their systems and software have (SNES, GC, Wii, Wii U, GBA, DS, and 3DS have been enjoyable systems for me overall), this is one of the things that I like least about them and how they treat their customers (not that it matters to some of them as long as they get Nintendo games one way or the other ), but conversely it is a reason why I am most likely to preorder a Sony game console without a second thought more than I would for other manufacturers and what pisses me off about their competition. Sony, with the only notable exception of PS Vita really, has pushed their consoles hard throughout their entire lifecycle. From PS1, to PS2, to PS3, to hopefully PS4... the console was really well supported even after the successor was in the pipeline or even out and sold to consumers.

This is of course true.

But you do know why this is. Right?

You have proven yourself to be super smart (really like reading your posts), so of course the reason isn't eluding you in this case i assume XD

 

[Waveset]

Tri Force Heroes is kind of a joke of a Zelda game, though.

Call it Barbie Abortion Heroes for all I care, its still a good game.

 

[Orniletter]

I also wanted to add that, MH4U invalidates this thread's existence.

Seriously.

Best action game of 2015. Bloodborne can suck it .

 

[TheRealJakoozie]

n3DS was presented as a more efficient revision of the original hardware and the biggest highlighted feature was the headtracking 3D. Xenoblade was always presented as a bonus since it wasn´t possible on the original hardware. You really must have been really naive to say the least to expect it to basically get its own substantial library of exclusives instead of enhancing 3DS software and interface, like Smashs shorter loading times and MH4Us better texture quality and so on, advanteges besides better battery-life that are more than good enough in my books for a revision. Kind of silly to basically expect an actual new platform based on a single game that was presented at the reveal. Something that was clear in the reveal and made clear by many people in subsequent discussions in forums.

I didn't expect many exclusives. I just didn't think that the 3DS would be abandoned by Nintendo so suddenly after releasing new hardware.

I thought that they released a better version of the hardware so that they could give the platform longer legs and postpone the inevitable successor. I expected Nintendo to continue releasing their top tier games, like Metroid , Mario, Zelda for at least another couple of years. The situation now I'd that there isn't a single game I'm looking forward to, and I haven't used my n3ds more than a few hours to test out the new 3D. I really regret buying the console.

I'm quite frankly pissed off. This, combined with the colossal disappointment that was Wii U means that I might never buy any more Nintendo consoles. I sincerely hope that the NX fails miserably and they become a pure software developer. If they don't do that it's fine as well, I'll make do without Nintendo in my life.

This is coming from someone who's owned every Nintendo console since n64.

 

[Dr. Buni]

3DS had a lot of underwhelming games, but its library is really strong. We are still getting a most likely fun and solid Mario & Luigi game, Pokémon Z, Zero Escape 3 and Shin Megami Tensei IV Final; These games are good enough until they release the NX, if it's the next handheld. I think the 3DS had a good run.

Sadly I can't say the same about the Wii U. It neither has that great of a library nor it had a good run

 

[ss-hikaru]

There are so many recently released/upcoming/not yet announced for localization 3ds titles that I'm interested in that I don't think I will have enough money to buy them all, let alone time to play :/ and I'm pretty fussy when it comes to games!

 

[kswiston]

I have seen it mentioned a few times, but no one in the west is going to be playing Dragon Quest XI on a 3ds unless they have a import system and speak Japanese.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

3DS has failed to continue what it had in its first year: Big budget software like Kingdom Hearts, Metal Gear Solid, Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Dead or Alive or Kid Icarus. Nowadays 3DS get either niche stuff (Stella Glow, Popolocrois, Senran Kagura), kiddie stuff (Yokai Watch, Fossil Fighters) or filler software (Chibi Robo Ziplash, AC Happy Home Designer, Federation Force).

There is still hope at the end of the tunnel though; Capcom has MHX and MH Stories, Square has Dragon Quest XI and Atlus has SMT4 Final. Perfect swan song lineup for any handheld fan but people coming from home consoles and PC still won't find what they're looking for.

Thats because KH, MGS, RE, SF and DoA are now back on consoles.

 

[Dragon1893]

SMTIV Final is all need.

 

[Firemind]

3DS had a lot of underwhelming games, but its library is really strong. We are still getting a most likely fun and solid Mario & Luigi game, Pokémon Z, Zero Escape 3 and Shin Megami Tensei IV Final; These games are good enough until they release the NX, if it's the next handheld. I think the 3DS had a good run.

Sadly I can't say the same about the Wii U. It neither has that great of a library nor it had a good run

I disagree. The majority of the 3DS library is run of the mill mediocrity. It's precisely like you said: they're good enough. At least the Wii U has had outstanding games even if you could count them with one hand. I'd rather have the latter than the former.

 

[Greddleok]

Yup the 3DS has a few really stand out games, but most are mediocre at best.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

All you people saying the 3DS is dead need to play 999 and VLR. Guarantee you you would want to hold onto a 3DS for ZE3. Or play it on Vita if you have one.

YES! Preach it! Y'all should be honoured that the GOAT 3DS game is gracing us very soon.

 

[Darius]

I didn't expect many exclusives. I just didn't think that the 3DS would be abandoned by Nintendo so suddenly after releasing new hardware.

I thought that they released a better version of the hardware so that they could give the platform longer legs and postpone the inevitable successor. I expected Nintendo to continue releasing their top tier games, like Metroid , Mario, Zelda for at least another couple of years. The situation now I'd that there isn't a single game I'm looking forward to, and I haven't used my n3ds more than a few hours to test out the new 3D. I really regret buying the console.

I'm quite frankly pissed off. This, combined with the colossal disappointment that was Wii U means that I might never buy any more Nintendo consoles. I sincerely hope that the NX fails miserably and they become a pure software developer. If they don't do that it's fine as well, I'll make do without Nintendo in my life.

This is coming from someone who's owned every Nintendo console since n64.

That´s as ridiculous as complaining about the fact that there was a PS3 super slim revision with PS4 around the corner. At the very least unlike the super slim revision Nintendo didn´t gimp their current gen system even further and chose instead to add value, considering it´s launching years after the original hardware.

Also we have no idea when the successor is supposed to launch, let´s assume late 2016/early 2017, that´s ca. 2years of shelf-life. And in general the message was quite clear from the very beginning that the headtracking 3D was the main reason for this revision.

n3DS was presented in August 2014 with Xenoblade and there has been no announcements for other exclusive retail games. Quite a lot of time to understand that it´s just a revision before its western release in February 2015. Quite frankly I doubt you even own one.

 

[Exterminieren]

The notion that the 3DS is not the stellar success that the DS was, and thus it could end its life a bit early is totally reasonable. I have no issues with that. The part I find odd is the release of the New 3DS revision seemingly so close to end of the 3DS platform's life. The N3DS is more powerful and has all these new features. How many games are we going to see that take advantage of them?

Not many, and certainly not at retail beyond a few games using the C-stick.

Maybe well see significant new releases at E3 though. It's a bit early to say. If we don't see some significant Nintendo announcements and a firm DQ11 localization announcement I'll be very disappointed.

If they announce New 3DS exclusives at next year's E3, that will mark nearly two years since the last retail exclusive they announced for the platform. I'd prepare to be disappointed, honestly.

Frankly, caveat emptor in this case. Right up to launch, the emphasis was on the increased specs and speed of the New 3DS, not its exclusive software. Its closest comparison is probably the Game Boy Micro honestly. I almost wish Xenoblade 3D didn't exist, to take away expectations of exclusive software.

 

[Marz]

n3DS was presented as a more efficient revision of the original hardware and the biggest highlighted feature was the headtracking 3D. Xenoblade was always presented as a bonus since it wasn´t possible on the original hardware. You really must have been really naive to say the least to expect it to basically get its own substantial library of exclusives instead of enhancing 3DS software and interface, like Smashs shorter loading times and MH4Us better texture quality and so on, advanteges besides better battery-life that are more than good enough in my books for a revision. Kind of silly to basically expect an actual new platform based on a single game that was presented at the reveal. Something that was clear in the reveal and made clear by many people in subsequent discussions in forums.

Yea people are just dumb bruh there's not much you can do about that.

 

[Ruud_Luiten]

DSi had hundreds of exclusive games.....

 

[squadr0n]

I still get a ton of use out of my 3DS. Playing Bravely Default and Persona Q now plus have Soul Hackers and both Devil Survivor remasteres waiting in my backlog.

Can't wait for Fire Emblem Fates and Bravley Second. Was never a big fan of the Fire Emblem games but Fates has a really intriguing story that makes me want to check it out. Then we have the awesome looking SMT IV Final! This system has the best lineup of games coming soon for me personally in awhile.

The N3DS was basically the same thing they did with the DSi which had even less of a retail game lineup with just the one shitty AR game. So I wasn't really expecting much out of it in the first place.

 

[finalflame]

Yea people are just dumb bruh there's not much you can do about that.

It's not dumb to expect Nintendo to release more than 1 game that fully takes advantage of , and 2 that partially take advantage of, the n3DS' vastly improved hardware. I don't think it's reasonable to assume they greatly increased processing power and memory just to support Xenoblade, slightly better textures in MH4, and a faster loading time in Smash. I would be happy with at least 2-3 more titles that make use of n3DS' improvements. Otherwise, seems like a waste.

 

[120v]

n3DS was probably supposed to be like GB Color in the way of exclusives. it just didn't play out that way

 

[GloriousBagel]

The 3DS has been a really disappointing piece of hardware, I was expecting a god tier software library like the DS. That was to be expected I guess, the DS was on a different level.

My 3DS is a Atlus machine and will probably remain that way, unless the DQ remake gets localized.

The 3Ds has a fairly disappointing 2016 lineup, having sold much more than the Vita, one would think it would still have a good amount of games that would be underway.

Between the 3DS and the Vita, I love my Vita so much more. Despite the Vita having a pretty shitty image of being an otaku handheld, the Vita has an extremely diverse library. It has its 1st party games such as Gravity Rush, Tearaway and Killzone. It has a good VN selection, from horror, mystery and even Otome. A good amount DRPG's and of course Persona 4 Golden.