KingOfF00LS
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Swat said:
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So what is stopping you from gettinga 360?
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grats..?
Instead of saying no good games yet, which is not true, why not just speak your mind and say "there are no games out that fit my taste" ? This is very understandable.
Or not enough money at the moment, or fanboyism strikes again, or money appropriated for PC upgrades, other consoles or whatever in life you need the money for more than a 360, but there are plenty of good games at this early point.
Or not enough money at the moment, or fanboyism strikes again, or money appropriated for PC upgrades, other consoles or whatever in life you need the money for more than a 360, but there are plenty of good games at this early point.
Simply put, "Xbox 1.5" syndrome. The games don't look compelling enough to tear me away from all the great stuff I'm still playing on my "last-gen" consoles and PC.
Frankly, PS3 looks set to satisfy my next-generation gaming needs with the best technology and developer support. In the interest of keeping things simple, it's a one-console future for me, and WHICH console is a very easy answer.
Frankly, PS3 looks set to satisfy my next-generation gaming needs with the best technology and developer support. In the interest of keeping things simple, it's a one-console future for me, and WHICH console is a very easy answer.
I've owned damn near every console released at some point. Failure or success it used to not matter to me. I usually wait until late into the generation to buy the failing consoles. This generation I bought a PS2 first day, and stole my little brother's Gamecube when he stopped using it. I was going to buy an Xbox a few months after Halo 2 came out but ultimately decided to wait for the Xbox 360 because I was hearing things about it already and I honestly just assumed Microsoft would make it backwards compatible. I mean they would have to be fools not to add that kind of value. It would make the transition for current Xbox owners more smooth and publishers working on Xbox software would feel comfortable that any Xbox console owner would be able to buy their game. Plus new Xbox owners would have plenty of software to play during the post console release draught that every console seems to have.
As more and more information about the 360 released I didn't know what to think. Microsoft made it really unclear about whether or not the console would be backwards compatible with their "Top selling games will work." bullshit. We began to see pictures of games like Perfect Dark that just looked like utter shit. Then we were introduced to the whole retard pack/premium pack madness which was pretty hilarious to watch on here. But the important point being that Microsoft had sacrificed utilizing the consoles hard drive to its full potential by offering 2 different packs. At the same time we were also given accessory and game pricing which was like a rape. We were warned about this though, and we knew it was coming. By the time launch came around there were only 2 games out that I would've considered buying which were PGR3, and Condemned. But at the same time there was excellent shit being released for PS2 like DQ8 that just made anything the Xbox 360 had to offer really unappealing at the time. I'm a sucker for console launches too.
Now I see some potential in the 360 but I'm still pretty fucking far away from considering purchasing one. I have a PC, which isn't the greatest but has an ATI X1600 or whatever and it can play Oblivion pretty good with high details. What's important here is that I'm playing the 360's best game on my PC. I honestly have a hard time seeing as how anyone can pimp their 360 at this point. It's just not realized yet.
As more and more information about the 360 released I didn't know what to think. Microsoft made it really unclear about whether or not the console would be backwards compatible with their "Top selling games will work." bullshit. We began to see pictures of games like Perfect Dark that just looked like utter shit. Then we were introduced to the whole retard pack/premium pack madness which was pretty hilarious to watch on here. But the important point being that Microsoft had sacrificed utilizing the consoles hard drive to its full potential by offering 2 different packs. At the same time we were also given accessory and game pricing which was like a rape. We were warned about this though, and we knew it was coming. By the time launch came around there were only 2 games out that I would've considered buying which were PGR3, and Condemned. But at the same time there was excellent shit being released for PS2 like DQ8 that just made anything the Xbox 360 had to offer really unappealing at the time. I'm a sucker for console launches too.
Now I see some potential in the 360 but I'm still pretty fucking far away from considering purchasing one. I have a PC, which isn't the greatest but has an ATI X1600 or whatever and it can play Oblivion pretty good with high details. What's important here is that I'm playing the 360's best game on my PC. I honestly have a hard time seeing as how anyone can pimp their 360 at this point. It's just not realized yet.
Ethical reasons.
But even without that:
- Too expensive for what it offers
- I have no HDTV yet
- Not too many interesting games yet
- Current-gen backlog
- Fears about instable hardware
- Possibility of online updates may lead to half-baked software
- I'm more inclined to asian developers
- I'm not that interested in online gaming, takes away too much time
- I'd need WLAN for online anyway, I haven't looked into this stuff, yet.
That's all I think.
But even without that:
- Too expensive for what it offers
- I have no HDTV yet
- Not too many interesting games yet
- Current-gen backlog
- Fears about instable hardware
- Possibility of online updates may lead to half-baked software
- I'm more inclined to asian developers
- I'm not that interested in online gaming, takes away too much time
- I'd need WLAN for online anyway, I haven't looked into this stuff, yet.
That's all I think.
mmlemay said:
I'm actually feeling kinda talky today so bear with me in this long drawn out explanation...
Let me back up a bit and explain myself a bit more. I think I've mentioned it from time to time in various game threads, but the biggest appeal in videogaming for me is storyline and actual endings. Not that the "storyline" has to be this giant epic, but if its something that I'm enjoying and when all is said and done there is an ending. That's generally what I look for... so of course that means for me there is an immediately in RPGS, and your action games your DMC's, your Ninja Gaiden's etc also hold that appeal there is a story being told that you advance through and get to a definitive ending.
Racing games are a slightly different animal. Most racing games over the years have been variations on a similar theme, race to advance. You either advance through ranking, through purchasing, etc.... and once you've made it to the final race congrats your the champion, now play again to try to beat your time. As much as I've loved racing games over the years, I've never been a time trial lover. I've never personally enjoyed the idea of racing again to improve my race time. I understand why it holds an appeal to other folks but it just doesn't for me. Racing games for the most part have been at that level... its only in the last few generations that you've started to see racing games with stories, justification if you will, for doing the racing. Now don't get me wrong just because a racing games has a story doesn't mean I'm going to stick with it... Test Drive for the PS2 was horrendous, as is the latest Rush game and they both feature "stories" per se. Let me say that before the whole storyline addition to racing games I enjoyed many racers... I've always been a fan of the NFS series, LOVED Test Drive Le Mans, even liked MSR on the DC. But the advent of stories(yes you can hate on the whole Fast & Furious stuff if you like) has really renewed my interest in racing games. Heck even Pro Race Driver's story with only a few cutscenes of a guy moving up the ranks was enough to keep me interested in the game. In that respect the two NFS Undergrounds and Most Wanted really did it for me. Yes when you eliminate the trimings you're still really just racing to advance, but the addition of the cutscenes the "rivalry" as it were with other competitors (even if it was nothing more than just some on screen text or trash talking that didn't mean much) just really appealed to me. I loved Burnout Revenge initially... but even it wore on me... because it's just racing to unlock another race and another car, and nothing more. Sure you can rerace to get a better medal which will unlock an extra car etc... but in the end when the game is over(for me), that's not the sense of closure that I look for in my gaming tastes.
Like I said I fully blame the last few Need for Speeds for this shift in my focus of what I'm looking for in racing games elements, I really enjoyed them because of the added storyline elements.
But that's just me, I know that everyone looks for different things in their gaming.
With all that being said I STILL almost recently bought a 360 just to play Most Wanted again which I hear looks pretty damn good on the 360. As the system progresses however I'm sure a game will come out that will appeal to me, and then I'll just go pick it up. That RPG Enchant Arm... I really like the early trailers we saw for it... if it gets at least average reviews that'll probably be a must purchase for me.
EmCeeGramr
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because Im a retarded nintendo fanboy
GitarooMan
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DarienA said:
Interesting perspective on racing games, I just started NFS:MW on 360 and I'm liking it a lot (Outside of some framerate fluctuations, it looks great and I've always liked the control of the NFS series). Should be a good pickup for you when you get around to getting a 360. I like the fact that you can roam the city and the addition of the pursuit segments makes it worthwhile and interesting to scope out parts of the city.
I'm not even going to lie when I do pick up an X360 I'll probably still pick up MW again (used of course).truffleshuffle83
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Probationsmack said:
AT LEAST YOUR TRUTHFUL..
1. I much prefer a keyboard and mouse for games like Oblivion and Call of Duty 2. I would not enjoy the game on a gamepad. Other than those games, none of the games interest me.
2. I'm not spending $600.
3. I don't have an HDTV or a monitor that will display 720p properly.
2. I'm not spending $600.
3. I don't have an HDTV or a monitor that will display 720p properly.
dammitmattt
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DarienA said:
Nice response. I understand completely. NFS:MW was a lot of fun on the 360, although the last few guys on the black list were more of a pain than they were worth. I was surprised how much I enjoyed it after the NFSU2 debacle.
dammitmattt
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teh_pwn said:
$400, maybe? I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure that's the price...
truffleshuffle83
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you have to get live, its so integral to the whole system that it would feel bland without it
truffleshuffle83 said:
That's a big negative good buddy... I've mentioned it in the past a few times, but I don't expect folks to remember. I don't do online gaming anymore... period. It takes away from the small amt of time I have for gaming as it is, and I like to spend THAT amt of time that I have on games that (like I said above) have a story and a definitive ending. Getting msg'd to come online and play so and so is gonna eat up too much of my gaming time.
Midnight Club (PS2 and then Xbox) and Midtown Madness (Xbox) crushed my gaming time when we all use to get together to play them.
siege said:
I remember buying a PS2, a Multitap, 4 Controllers, a Mem Card, another Mem Card, S-Video Cables, Component Cables, a Network Adapter.
PERIPHERAL COST IS A HIDDEN COST FOR EVERY SYSTEM
That's why I'm saving around$800 for the PS3 and $500 for the Rev launches. Hell, after a couple of games and a 512MB memory stick, I seem to recall my PSP in the neighborhood of $700 CDN at launch.
dammitmattt
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DarienA said:
No problem. You'll still be Xbox Live Silver and can take advantage of a lot of the cool stuff on Live!
IAmtheFMan
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Probationsmack said:
So am I. Didn't stop me.
truffleshuffle83
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Emiru said:
STFU....if youd bother reading youd see that some of the posters have valid reasons
Swat said:
:lol Its little quips like this that makes me wish we had signatures at NeoGAF.
I don't have one because of price. I'm not to hot on the whole "macrotransactions" thing, and while I'd love to play through Condemned and Oblivion, I still have over 30 games for the PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox to go through. Hell, I just finished Riddick and Shadow of the Colossus recently. I haven't finished any of the Jak and Daxters, Metal Gear Solid 3, Devil May Cry 3, Psychonauts, Prince of Persia: TTT, Stranger's Wrath, Ninja Gaiden, Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime Echos.... and those are just the ones that I can think of.
This will be the same answer when we get threads popping up that ask "What is stopping you from getting a PS3?"
(I'm not really interested in the Rev. That wand just.... it doesn't appeal to me at all...)
dammitmattt
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mr jones said:
At some point you have to give up on your backlog....
scooby_dooby
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_leech_ said:
You realize there's 8% duty on all electronics shipped to Canada?
According to OANDA-com retail exhange rate for $400 USD is: $459
$459 x 1.08 (duty) = $495.72
So...we're getting overcharged a whopping $4.28
Azure Dream
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Launch issues. They rushed it too hard to get to market with a product they can't significantly change for the next four or five years, when they could have realistically postponed launching another six months and still beat Sony and Nintendo to the market (Sony pulled the exact same bluff they did with the Dreamcast, "Oh, it's coming, wait for that, wait for that, whoops, we had to delay it, but it'll be awesome, wait for it..."), and had a more unified release structure (the Core Pack was a hackeyed marketing fix for the high price, splintering the console base and creating issues for developers in supporting things like the hard drive, and removing elements from the package Microsoft had previously spoken of as standard for EVERY Xbox 360, like the wireless controller and HD cables), not to mention a better and more reliable stock allocation, with more of the QC issues resolved like the power supply (apparently it wasn't supposed to be external, or as big as it currently is or something, they just had to rush it out like that, and the fact that it has to be elevated to keep from overheating and screwing up the 360?). Reliability issues stemming from a rushed launch are the biggest holdback right now, and it's bothering me how many complaints there still are, and comments about EA Demos trashing things and people on their second or third box, still running into issues. These things happen, and maybe people are being more vocal about it than they have in previous times, but the rate of "Now _MY_ 360's died!" posts have gotten unnerving for a product that's been on the market for quite some time now.
$60 common price for games that aren't true next-gen efforts. MGS4 (different console, but same gen) would easily warrant a $60 tag because you know how hard they'd be pushing every ounce of power and exploring new ways to simulate complex things, R&D for that sort of thing costs some serious cash. But a prettier version of Tomb Raider? It IS prettier, make no mistake, but while it does take more to developer higher-poly models, new lighting schemes and reflection effects, higher quality textures and so forth, a flat $10 price jump isn't quite right.
E3 is coming up, and 360's performed OK (but they really shot themselves in the foot by not having nearly enough stock back when the buzz was huge, it's one thing when a console is hard to find, it's another when finding it becomes a joke), but it's likely they're going to do something at or around that time (they might try to bluff people expecting something by not announcing any repackaging or repricing at E3, wait a little while, then announce something). So the CAG in me's making me wait, too. And yes, several consoles have price dropped or been repackaged with extra items within their first year.
I'll eventually get one. I just think they panicked far too much about Sony when they were on the way to delivering a really solid product, and stumbled at that last 10%.
$60 common price for games that aren't true next-gen efforts. MGS4 (different console, but same gen) would easily warrant a $60 tag because you know how hard they'd be pushing every ounce of power and exploring new ways to simulate complex things, R&D for that sort of thing costs some serious cash. But a prettier version of Tomb Raider? It IS prettier, make no mistake, but while it does take more to developer higher-poly models, new lighting schemes and reflection effects, higher quality textures and so forth, a flat $10 price jump isn't quite right.
E3 is coming up, and 360's performed OK (but they really shot themselves in the foot by not having nearly enough stock back when the buzz was huge, it's one thing when a console is hard to find, it's another when finding it becomes a joke), but it's likely they're going to do something at or around that time (they might try to bluff people expecting something by not announcing any repackaging or repricing at E3, wait a little while, then announce something). So the CAG in me's making me wait, too. And yes, several consoles have price dropped or been repackaged with extra items within their first year.
I'll eventually get one. I just think they panicked far too much about Sony when they were on the way to delivering a really solid product, and stumbled at that last 10%.
distantmantra
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I actually thought about buying one yesterday, but then I realized that there really aren't any must have titles for me at the moment. I registered for one at Target for our wedding, so if some kind soul buys us one, then that's great, but I think I'll wait until next fall/winter before I buy one.
Cold-Steel
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I'm still a student so I'm still waiting for....
-This year's HDTV lines to come out from different manufacturers (in particular, Sony 42" LCD Rear-Projection sets) in the hopes that the upconversion is much better (particularly for 480i / 480p gaming and older)
-GST drop (for those of us who live in Canada know what I'm talking about, save a good $100 minimum)
-Xbox 360 pricedrop (plus buying one now without an HDTV would just not be good enough)
I've got an SNES, N64, DC, Xbox, GCN, and PS2. I would prefer as little lag as possible and the best image possible.
I've already got my audio setup, just waiting on the TV side a little longer. Perfection has its price and mine is time.
-This year's HDTV lines to come out from different manufacturers (in particular, Sony 42" LCD Rear-Projection sets) in the hopes that the upconversion is much better (particularly for 480i / 480p gaming and older)
-GST drop (for those of us who live in Canada know what I'm talking about, save a good $100 minimum)
-Xbox 360 pricedrop (plus buying one now without an HDTV would just not be good enough)
I've got an SNES, N64, DC, Xbox, GCN, and PS2. I would prefer as little lag as possible and the best image possible.
I've already got my audio setup, just waiting on the TV side a little longer. Perfection has its price and mine is time.
