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Someguy named Reeves: OH MIGHTY SALMON, PROTECT ME FROM BEAR, WHO WISHES TO HARM ME
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McBradders
NeoGAF: my new HOME
DCharlie said:
>> Did i ever tell you about how Mirror's Edge might be PS3 exclusive, except it's probably not?
> I heard that rumour!
>> I know , i started it !
> Do you know that all PS2 games will be backwards compatible through firmware by the end of the year?
>> You lying get!
> YOU lying get!
:lol
Awesome. You rule.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
I hope we will be day and date with US and I hope that well get the same quantities as US as well, said Reeves. I don't think well be disadvantaged. In fact I believe the first PS3s being manufactured are being made for Europe which is a first." - David Reeves (pre-launch)
McBradders
NeoGAF: my new HOME
DCharlie said:
I need to pick that stuff up on DVD at some point.
DCharlie said:
I don't think it is really. Maybe it's people's perception, particularly in Europe. And to a certain degree in Europe it might be true (i.e. pricing hasn't been as good on the euro stores vs other regions, perhaps..although relative to their competition it's probably not bad!)
But overall, SCE has been..to use someone elses words.."run like a charity" so far this generation.
DCharlie
Banned
i would go with peoples perceptions on the current situation. but yeah i'd find it difficult to believe that a global head of any company could get on stage and deliver a message that differed from the stategic direction of Sony - espeically after Kutaragi's exploits, i'd have thought Stringer laid down the law.
the PSP gaff was probably as bad as he could go - i don't think he'll be going anywhere in a hurry.
DCharlie said:
I would say the Leipzig presser was carefully planned with input from the other regions.
I'm just not sure I agree it carries a message of "let's rip the consumer". I'll have to admit to not actually watching the whole thing, I'm just going by the product announcements etc.
Reeves also does pretty much say whatever the heck he likes anyway. He's quite frank on the business side of things, maybe too frank for some people. But his division has handled SCE's most challenging product (i.e. PS3) better from a market performance POV than any of the others so I doubt anyone in Tokyo will be complaining.
The only people he raises eyebrows with with comments like these are probably the relative small proportion of industry observers (be it on boards like here or elsewhere).
maniac-kun
Member
when it comes to final fantasy (main games) he is right: the european versions have added things and some subsystems are realy more ironed out and the euro version usualy comes some time later as special edition in japan
Infernal Monkey
Member
maniac-kun said:
I dunno, I remember the ten billion year-long delayed FFX having the worst PAL conversion I'd seen since Street Fighter II on SNES.
"People say, Well, why do we always get things last? Why cant we say things? Well, Ive said this many times before: sometimes its an advantage to be last in Europe, you know, when everythings ironed out."
Reeves, there's a job at NOE waiting just for you.
Anyway, last time I checked, some games that have had long localisations have had bugs introduced, like SPM, and most games come through unchanged anyway, so that excuse is moot.
Note to Reeves: I am European, I don't like game delays, or paying more for the privilege, Shut up a your face.
Reeves, there's a job at NOE waiting just for you.
Anyway, last time I checked, some games that have had long localisations have had bugs introduced, like SPM, and most games come through unchanged anyway, so that excuse is moot.
Note to Reeves: I am European, I don't like game delays, or paying more for the privilege, Shut up a your face.
This is getting beyond silly.
Does ANYONE think that EU would suddenly get things first if Reeves was fired? That somehow its his decision to delay stuff in Europe? That before Reeves, Europe was showered in games that were released in EU before the rest of the world? Isnt it true that EU thisgen gets stuff a LOT sooner than lastgen? (This is probably more thanks to MS, but still)
Of course he is trying his best to point out the benefits of a situation he can do fuck all about, its sort of his job.
Does ANYONE think that EU would suddenly get things first if Reeves was fired? That somehow its his decision to delay stuff in Europe? That before Reeves, Europe was showered in games that were released in EU before the rest of the world? Isnt it true that EU thisgen gets stuff a LOT sooner than lastgen? (This is probably more thanks to MS, but still)
Of course he is trying his best to point out the benefits of a situation he can do fuck all about, its sort of his job.
Phife Dawg
Member
How would you know? That's just an assumption. Heise explicitly stated he said ME would be a PS3 exclusive this year with PC and X360 to follow later. The article was a mixture of direct quotes and indirect speech, just because they didn't give a direct quote for this doesn't mean that Reeves didn't say such a thing.Dabanton said:
Unless we see a transcript we will never know for sure what Reeves said, but considering the things he did say in the past this would be one of the less grave mistakes.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Reeves, You're Fired!!
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
<angry yelling against Reeves>
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...Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
DCharlie said:
I know that there is some truth, but
how would you like it if you were always the last guy served in the restaurant, got the food cold, paid more than the other customers, were treated like the stupid kid, and the pathetic (and false as the other customers were treated nicely) excuse of the restaurant owner night after night was "hey, but at least the cook can practice on other customers first!"?
EU is not treated fairly by SCE and common courtesy would be to either not speaking about the situation or do something and tell us what you are doing to improve on things, not trying to show us the silver lining in all of this.
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Souldriver
Member
Didn't this Reeves spew Europe-related bullshit more than once? Like saying Europe would get the first PS3 made? :lol
In other words: shut the fuck up, Reeves.
In other words: shut the fuck up, Reeves.
travisbickle
Member
DCharlie said:
You just wouldn't let it lie, would you?
SecretSphere
Member
I like this avatar/post combo.diss said:
macksplack
Member
Holy shit
It's a advantage now? Really? Is this the best you could say Reeves?
It's a advantage now? Really? Is this the best you could say Reeves?
Getting stuff last in Europe is understandable. There are issues surrounding legal issues, localization and pricing that take more time in Europe. I'm pretty certain that some games were held up because (a lack) of localization e.g. Everyday Shooter.
Even so it doesn't make it acceptable. Video or music downloads (for example) could be rolled out by country. The UK & Ireland speak English so roll them out. If Apple managed it then surely Sony can. Okay, so each country poses its own challenges, but thats a good reason in itself to do incremental rollouts rather than a big bang.
Even so it doesn't make it acceptable. Video or music downloads (for example) could be rolled out by country. The UK & Ireland speak English so roll them out. If Apple managed it then surely Sony can. Okay, so each country poses its own challenges, but thats a good reason in itself to do incremental rollouts rather than a big bang.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Nolan. said:
So, I am sure Europeans won't mind waiting 6 months or so for any issues with LBP to be ironed out right?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Dear Reeves
The least you can do, is shut the fuck up.
Regards, your first market.
The least you can do, is shut the fuck up.
Regards, your first market.
cartoon_soldier
Member
jorma said:
Did you read the context in which I made the said statement?