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That maybe true for the latest games, but most older games don't have native support for DLSS 3.5 or FSR 4. Even then, I choose to run as close to native 4k if I can get a stable frame rate above 80fps.
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Th nvidia driver can upgrade all games to DLSS4.
There is also Optiscaler, that allows to inject DLSS4 and FSR4 into any game that supports any temporal upscaler from nvidia, AMD and Intel.
 

AMD to bring back Ryzen 7 5800X3D as AM4 10th Anniversary Edition


Leaker HXL has shared what appears to be a promo image for an AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D "10 YRS AMD AM4 Anniversary Edition." The slide points to a Q2 2026 launch and lists 8 cores, 16 threads, up to 4.5 GHz boost, 100 MB cache, and a 105W TDP. Those numbers line up with AMD's official Ryzen 7 5800X3D specifications from the original product listing.

This does not look like a new AM4 refresh with higher clocks or a changed cache layout. It looks more like a straight reissue of the original 5800X3D, a chip AMD launched globally on April 20, 2022, with a $449 SEP.
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It's good news, at a time when DDR5 costs an arm and a leg, and a kidney. But that $449 price is highway robbery for what is a 4 year old CPU.
 
Bojji said:
I bought it for ~413$ (with VAT) in 2023.
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I bought mine in September 2022 for the full 449€. At the time I had reservations about this being a good purchase or not.
Today, almost 4 years after, I think it's one of the best hardware purchases I have ever made. The way the market is, it will probably last me another 2 or 3 years.
 
I recently built a new AM4 rig with a 5700X and while I'm interested in the 5800X3D, it feels like a pain to have to take the PC apart so soon. Plus I really like the temps of my 5700X after undervolting it. I get a max of 56.5°C while running CP2077 while using a a 10 year-old NH-U12S air cooler (though I did change the fan). The 5800X3D is sure to run a lot hotter. With 7nm being so mature now, a -30 in the curve optimizer might be possible on the new 5800X3D though. I'll wait to see the reviews and such.
 
Boss Mog said:
I recently built a new AM4 rig with a 5700X and while I'm interested in the 5800X3D, it feels like a pain to have to take the PC apart so soon. Plus I really like the temps of my 5700X after undervolting it. I get a max of 56.5°C while running CP2077 while using a a 10 year-old NH-U12S air cooler (though I did change the fan). The 5800X3D is sure to run a lot hotter. With 7nm being so mature now, a -30 in the curve optimizer might be possible on the new 5800X3D though. I'll wait to see the reviews and such.
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I changed 5600x to 5800x3d, and yeah - it requires more juice and better cooling.
 
Boss Mog said:
I recently built a new AM4 rig with a 5700X and while I'm interested in the 5800X3D, it feels like a pain to have to take the PC apart so soon. Plus I really like the temps of my 5700X after undervolting it. I get a max of 56.5°C while running CP2077 while using a a 10 year-old NH-U12S air cooler (though I did change the fan). The 5800X3D is sure to run a lot hotter. With 7nm being so mature now, a -30 in the curve optimizer might be possible on the new 5800X3D though. I'll wait to see the reviews and such.
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I run my 5800X3D with a -30 CO. In games, power usage should be similar to your 5700X. But temperatures will be higher, because of the L3 cache being stacked on top on the CPU. Maybe 5-10Cº higher. But still very safe temperatures.
The 5800X3D by default, has higher ppt tdc edc. This means under full load, it is allowed to use more power. But you can set the same values for it as with the 5700X.
 
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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 10th anniversary edition appears in India for around $310


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winjer said:

AMD to bring back Ryzen 7 5800X3D as AM4 10th Anniversary Edition






It's good news, at a time when DDR5 costs an arm and a leg, and a kidney. But that $449 price is highway robbery for what is a 4 year old CPU.
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This is the stuck between a rock and a hard place type scenario. I really want to champion PC gaming and I still do, but it's looking like our past time is under attack from almost every angle you can think of.
From software supply chain being under attack(Linux, Github, ETC)
To OS/ID Mandate/Laws stripping us of basic privacy
Pricing Out of SSD, RAM and GPU

Doesn't it seem like a perfect storm?
 
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winjer said:
Depends on resolution and your GPU, but could be 25-30%.
If it's for the 310$ that the Indian stores are saying, it might be well worth it.
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1440p on a 5070ti

I've toyed with the idea of getting the 3D before, but even the used market is a mess. And since I actually plan to keep my computer for the next few years, a €300 upgrade for new hardware might still be an option without having to replace the mainboard & RAM
 
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Kupfer said:
1440p on a 5070ti

I've toyed with the idea of getting the 3D before, but even the used market is a mess. And since I actually plan to keep my computer for the next few years, a €300 upgrade for new hardware might still be an option without having to replace the mainboard & RAM
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Then it's probably be a worthwhile upgrade for 300$.
Let's hope this is the real price.
 
flying_sq said:
I have a 5900x, been hoping AMD does more 5800X3D runs, used prices are crazy.
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There are a lot of people on AM4 that have only purchased 5600 and 5700 tier CPU's, hopefully this is more than just a paper launch. I would assume that AMD has a large warehouse somewhere full of binned 5800X3D's that are just sitting around that they decided to re brand and launch. Given that RAM prices still haven't unfucked themselves for DDR5, this is a really good upgrade still in 2026 for many people.
 
Snagged a 5900XT last month. If I can upgrade from 16GB to at least 32GB I should be set for another 3+ years.
 
shit news. this means the industry has colluded to halt tech progress and reselling users old hardware at current "budget" prices. $349 for a 5800X3D that is slower than 9700X in many games now.

9700X launched in Aug 2024 at $359.
 
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The main packaging change is the inclusion of a Carbice thermal pad. This pad is intended as an alternative to thermal paste and should be easier to apply while avoiding the drying behavior associated with conventional thermal compound.
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winjer said:
And a new 3DV cache CPU.

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Yeah I don't know if I should take that completely positively but I'm not going to choose the negative angle as some channels have already referred to it as serving as leftovers but if it extends those platforms slightly and maintains prices at a decent rate, it's hard to complain.

I get the whole thing about not talking that much about new stuff as it isn't going to launch till probably earlier next year or late this year but it would have been nice to have a little bone thrown at you but that's just our own internet enthusiast wishful thinking as really it doesn't make sense to announce it this early.
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
Yeah I don't know if I should take that completely positively but I'm not going to choose the negative angle as some channels have already referred to it as serving as leftovers but if it extends those platforms slightly and maintains prices at a decent rate, it's hard to complain.

I get the whole thing about not talking that much about new stuff as it isn't going to launch till probably earlier next year or late this year but it would have been nice to have a little bone thrown at you but that's just our own internet enthusiast wishful thinking as really it doesn't make sense to announce it this early.
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There is no negative side. It's an underclocked 7800X3D for people that want to save some money.
It's not like it's replacing anything else. It's just one more option.
 
winjer said:
There is no negative side. It's an underclocked 7800X3D for people that want to save some money.
It's not like it's replacing anything else. It's just one more option.
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I choose to look at it like that as well as it's giving players another option.

I'm not normally one to root for something out of China but if they pick up the competition and are allowed to bring memory here or at least be able to sell their dies to bigger manufacturers than we really need some kind of stabilization in the memory as I'm sure some companies like that but it's not really good for global stability of consumer electronics. So in that regard I am rooting for more competition as it has been getting out of hand for a while.
 
www.tomshardware.com

AMD ‘had to re-engineer’ the Ryzen 7 5800X3D for a re-release — 10th Anniversary Edition chip had ‘a whole body of engineering work’ put into it

It’s possible AMD planned to bring the Ryzen 7 5800X3D back sooner, but a lot of development work was going on behind the scenes.
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"It's not as simple as just bringing back the 5800X3D," McAfee said. "The original stacking process that was used at TSMC changed when we went from first-gen to second-gen cache, so we had to re-engineer that product, and there actually was a fair amount of development that went into bringing back the 5800X3D."
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The Ryzen 7 5800X3D used TSMC's SoIC or System-on-Integrated-Chips hybrid bonding technology. It uses a combination of "hot" and "cold" bonding to marry two pieces of silicon together, which then share power with through-silicon vias (TSV). Fundamentally, this connection hasn't changed over the course of 3D V-Cache's existence, but it has evolved. With the move to Ryzen 7000, AMD had to make some changes to the 3D V-Cache design, which it then carried forward with Ryzen 9000.
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To avoid any confusion, when we talk about second-gen 3D V-Cache here, we're not talking about AMD's new packaging available on Zen 5 CPUs, where SRAM is placed under the CCD rather than on top, as is the case with Zen 4 and 3 X3D chips. We're talking about the bonding process that AMD used at TSMC, which changed from first-gen X3D chips to second-gen X3D chips.
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"It completely changed the characteristics of how those two pieces of silicon are bonded together and how they were stacked together, and so when that first-gen facility really kind of went offline, then it meant there was a whole, you know, body of engineering work that had to be done to understand if we could even migrate the 5800X3D to the new, second-generation stacking process," McAfee said.

It's possible that AMD intended to bring back the Ryzen 7 5800X3D sooner, though McAfee stopped short of saying that outright. The shift in packaging helps explain the Ryzen 7 5800X3D's (and eventually the 5700X3D's) absence from the market. The chip has seen spotty availability over the past two years, and it's been completely sold out over the past year, with resellers demanding as much as $800 on the secondhand market.

"That's been a lot of the work that's kind of been going on in the background to get us to where we are today, is redoing the qualification of that stacking process, building samples, testing to make sure that the reliability is top notch for consumers who might want to buy this product, and then, you know, kind of rolling it out and ramping it into production again in a new process of stacking those dies together," McAfee told Tom's Hardware.
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StereoVsn said:
That basically shows they want to extend AM4 by at least another 2-3 years. So yeah, things aren't getting better any time soon :(.
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Which is weird since it suggests they were working on this before RAM prices spiked.

Even now, for new builds it probably doesn't make sense. So it's almost entirely people who have an AM4 board but didn't buy the 5800X3D or 5700X3D when it was available.
 
asdasdasdbb said:
Which is weird since it suggests they were working on this before RAM prices spiked.

Even now, for new builds it probably doesn't make sense. So it's almost entirely people who have an AM4 board but didn't buy the 5800X3D or 5700X3D when it was available.
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My suspicion is they know RAM prices are f-d for a long while so they want to sell some upgrades for 5600 / 5700 crowd.

Edit: And potentially have lower cost first time PC buyer options.
 
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AMD is aware enough to see that the PC market is in an absolute state of dogshit right now. They wouldn't have spent the time and money on this otherwise.
 
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