Whitecrow
Banned
I was not trying to convince you of anything. Im glad that theres a gamw tthat Sonic fans can actually love so much.
As everyone here, i was just adding here my point of view, nothing more.
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Sonic Mania Dev Headcannon Says He's Broke, Recent Kickstarter a "Spectacular Failure"
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As everyone here, i was just adding here my point of view, nothing more.
At the moment he is working (with others contracted to his company) on the Sonic 3 remaster for Origins, that's pretty much all we know, nothing on a personal level.
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Jim Ryan other Clone
Banned
What about to go and find a job like every other person (in his expertise) and when he is financially stable then to try this Kickstarter bullshit instead of crying on a video?
Edit, Fuck the necrophilia... Got baited.
Edit, Fuck the necrophilia... Got baited.
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RAIDEN1
Member
Instead of Origins there should have been a Sonic Mania 2
Unknown?
Member
Mania was essentially a cut down Origins. It was mostly OLD levels anyway. Unless it would be all original it wouldn't even matter.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
If he worked in the IT field he wouldn’t have had a lot of issues making money. I guess that’s the sucky part about it all. Either you’re incredibly wealthy from your video game accomplishments or you’re living off someone’s couch. I’ve met IT guys making six figures and this man seems like he has a good set of computer skills.
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Fake
Member
Sonic Team.
Mufausa The 3rd
Member
I'm too lazy to search for it. But apparently, there's a ton of drama surrounding the development of Sonic Mania 2 (it got canceled)
I think Sonic Team didn't like that SM essentially overshadowed Sonic Forces or something along those lines and there were communication issues between both the devs and Sega.
ReBurn
Gold Member
His issue may not be making money. It could be how he manages the money he makes. Being your own boss is hard and expensive and many people who work for themselves can't pay themselves because they fund their business first.
Calling 911 Melts Beams
Banned
his work in the sonic fandom is no sonichu tier masterpiece but he at least deserved to make some money
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
Wow, card games are the shit, then.Just letting aspiring developers know what they’re in for if they intend to sell a mostly standard 2D platformer:
Ristifer
Member
I don't see how it's a cut down Origins when it actually shook up the old zones and added new ones. Origins is just the classics in widescreen with easy modes for casuals.
Fake
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Sonic Mania 2 Is Said to Have Been Scrapped Internally at Sega
Sonic Mania originally launched back in 2017, and by all accounts, was a massive success for Sega [...]
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Synless
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So instead of being humbled and trying to learn from someone else’s success with a franchise they have fucked for years they got bitter and got the sequel shut down.Sonic Mania 2 Is Said to Have Been Scrapped Internally at Sega
Sonic Mania originally launched back in 2017, and by all accounts, was a massive success for Sega [...]comicbook.com
MykonosFan And Zippo Presents: Why Skipping Sonic Mania 2 Is A Huge Mistake.
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fran.fernandez
Member
Well he tried , pretty sure was his choice to be an indie and not working at game dev companies.
So… even broke he must have fulfilled his dreams.
I prefer stable money though
So… even broke he must have fulfilled his dreams.
I prefer stable money though
Mufausa The 3rd
Member
Exactly... Fuck Sonic Team tbh.
That's how Sega of Japan rolls. Just ask Tom Kalinske.
Ristifer
Member
Pretty much. I'm sure Frontiers will finally be Sonic Team's crowning achievement, though... /s
Kssio_Aug
Member
I will really not judge the guy, because I don't have details of his private life. But simply knowing that a) he worked on Sonic Mania, and b) he is broken; is not nearly enough data to assume his contract was that bad.
He says in the video that he was already indebted before working on Sonic, and that what he was paid for actually helped him to buy another car and pay some of his debts. We don't know how he and his family handles income, and how much he was owing before working on Sonic to begin with. As others have said, he worked with a team which apparently some other devs are doing fine today.
Things are not easy, I know this for a fact. But if he's not already doing it, he really should send his resume to work on a more stable job. Working on Sonic Mania really might help him a lot finding a good one.
Wish the guy the best though.
Kiddo Cabbusses
Member
What's with what insulting? Never have I insulted this guy
As someone that comes from a country with pretty high unemployment country I can tell you this. If you want job, meaning that you'll take even a sh**ty jobs and use the time to search restlessly a couple of months, you'll find work. I send over 80 applications only to had 6 intervues and got 1 job offer to find a work a couple of years ago. That's why I can sleep in my own appartment.
Um, I'm sorry but, if that's really the expected ratio of applications to interviews, then to job offers, is it really any wonder that a lot of people give up?
I thought I was having it bad when I got a job offer (Not a good job, mind, but an offer!) after 10 applications and 3 interviews.
daffyduck
Member
FTFY. IT is saturated.
It's in the OP, I know reading is really hard especially when you've already formulated your answer from reading the thread title without reading any of the OP.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
A sort of... Headcanon if you will.
Stefan.North
Member
That was one of my first jobs, mind you. I didn't have a lot of things in my CV.
remember_spinal
Banned
I thought this said Santa Monica
Captain Toad
Banned
That's not necessarily true. We see people winning the lottery or professional athletes who make millions, only to be broke a few years later.
I'm not saying that's the case for this guy, but him having had money issues, doesn't mean Sega ripped him off. It's more likely he felt above getting a "regular" programming job, as I have little doubt he could have been hired, as game developers are currently highly sought after.
This is more evident now, by the fact he has chosen to work with Sega again on a Sonic remaster.
Kokoloko85
Member
Kokoloko85
Member
How little did Sega pay him?
Dude should of got paid at least 100-200k?
Dude should of got paid at least 100-200k?
Kiddo Cabbusses
Member
That arguably makes it even worse. It's one thing if you got fired/blacklisted but it shouldn't be so ridiculously hard to get the kind of jobs they used to give out to highschoolers in the 1980's.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Depends on the job.
When I was starting my career 20+ years ago, job offers were easy the first 10+ years changing companies every so often. My batting average was literally about 1/3. Every 3 interviews by companies, one of them would offer me a job.
But at my current job, it gets tougher as you move up as the job is literally one high level job available. Some of those other jobs back then might had had two available so I'd get one of them.
Interviews come and go, but no offers even when I made it to the end with 5+ interviews at the same company. Social media made applications easy to apply. Most jobs I apply to publicly posted have at least 50 people applying in Linkedin alone. And that excludes all other applications they get from other websites, their own career site, recruiters finding people and internal workers going after the job. There actually might be 100 people applying.
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Gambit2483
Member
No idea why he didn't push to be put on the SEGA payroll.
SEGA probably made out like bandits on that ROI and profit they made off of this guy
Kokoloko85
Member
Yeah that sucks. Best sonic game in decades and the guy deserves some dosh
EDMIX
Member
Yup. I think this is a sober thing to look at to remind people that you need to go off of facts vs assumptions. If someone is making a business, they need this hard objective information to tell if their product REALLY makes sense and is really popular. For example, I didn't know Battle Royale stuff made up such a small number compared to all those. So shit, for all I know some Card Game idea is not only sound, but is trending, people are looking for the next best one etc.
Business is what you make of it and for all we know someone can move massive numbers on the simplest card game with some social concept.
