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Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - Wii/PS3/360; downloadable episodic release - [Update: $15?]

Epic Tier 3 Engineer said:
Sonic Rush Adventure is terrible. The traditional stages are fantastic, I agree, but the filler is unbearable. Why couldn't they just make it like Rush?

The filler wasn't really that big of a deal, really. About the time the game said "Well, you need materials from previous levels" you had just opened up Blaze the Cat and her moveset was different enough that it provided a unique experience, I felt.
 
cicero said:
You have a Sonic love pillow, don't you...

At the least, I think this calls for a new tramp stamp for you, something featuring Sonic sporting a bulge and a now proven to be official smile. You can find proof for the "bulge" later.

What the fuck? Did I suddenly step in to a highschool lunch room? What the shit is this post doing here?
 
Sega1991 said:
The filler wasn't really that big of a deal, really. About the time the game said "Well, you need materials from previous levels" you had just opened up Blaze the Cat and her moveset was different enough that it provided a unique experience, I felt.

Yes, but then there was the shitty "Elite Beat Agents with no good music meets the worst aspect of Phantom Hourglass" part, though.
 
Alphahawk said:
Um this is that...
I'm being sarcastic. The last page could have fooled me.

There is no Sonic the Hedgehog board on GAF. Sonic titles are fairly subject to ridicule to this point. Some of the more "dedicated' fans here (such as Huelen) are fine but are getting a tad to over protective and wacky. This thread is going contain the same Sonic cycles and nonsense until the game comes out and we are blown away. Then one month later the criticism will begin once again regardless.

I still remember back in the Unleashed thread people telling me that the glitches in the game were due to my faulty 360...I mean...goddam.
 
Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
I'm being sarcastic. The last page could have fooled me.

There is no Sonic the Hedgehog board on GAF. Sonic titles are fairly subject to ridicule to this point. Some of the more "dedicated' fans here (such as Huelen) are fine but are getting a tad to over protective and wacky. This thread is going contain the same Sonic cycles and nonsense until the game comes out and we are blown away. Then one month later the criticism will begin once again regardless.

I still remember back in the Unleashed thread people telling me that the glitches in the game were due to my faulty 360...I mean...goddam.


Thats more of a GAF cycle than a Sonic one :P
 
Ten-Song said:
Yes, but then there was the shitty "Elite Beat Agents with no good music meets the worst aspect of Phantom Hourglass" part, though.

That is literally used once, only to access the last level, though, isn't it?
 
Sega1991 said:
That is literally used once, only to access the last level, though, isn't it?

The Elite Beat Agents one, possibly, but either way, to access any new area, there was always the annoyance of having to farm stuff, build a ship, and then USE that ship to get to the area. None of the mini games they ever introduced during this part were fun, and only detracted from the main experience. Rush 1 had way smoother pacing, in that it's just level after level.

Not a problem once you beat the game and can just use level select, but during an initial playthrough, it was annoying.
 
Ten-Song said:
The Elite Beat Agents one, possibly, but either way, to access any new area, there was always the annoyance of having to farm stuff, build a ship, and then USE that ship to get to the area. None of the mini games they ever introduced during this part were fun, and only detracted from the main experience. Rush 1 had way smoother pacing, in that it's just level after level.

Not a problem once you beat the game and can just use level select, but during an initial playthrough, it was annoying.

The only one I didn't like was the one where you had to tap the screen to shoot and switch between different ammo types. The Jet Ski was actually pretty fun. The EBA one was kind of dumb, but again, you saw it only once.
 
Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
I'm being sarcastic. The last page could have fooled me.

There is no Sonic the Hedgehog board on GAF. Sonic titles are fairly subject to ridicule to this point. Some of the more "dedicated' fans here (such as Huelen) are fine but are getting a tad to over protective and wacky. This thread is going contain the same Sonic cycles and nonsense until the game comes out and we are blown away. Then one month later the criticism will begin once again regardless.

I still remember back in the Unleashed thread people telling me that the glitches in the game were due to my faulty 360...I mean...goddam.

True but when the OP specifically states not to do so, and even goes through the trouble to write up a list of specifics, some people could show a little restraint huh?

Not saying that people have to be 100% positive about the game or its possibilities...but some of the posts are uncalled for.
 
Teknoman said:
True but when the OP specifically states not to do so, and even goes through the trouble to write up a list of specifics, some people could show a little restraint huh?
Quite honestly, I'd rather laugh at stupid nonsense fanart and the bizarre subsets of the Sonic fandom than read pages upon pages of posts analyzing the pixels of a sprite frame-by-frame of a poorly-encoded flash trailer to find some deeper meaning or thing we're missing. It's not like you can't do both at the same time, especially when there's no new information to glom onto for the next couple days aside from more posts about how we hope this game doesn't suck
when it probably will because Backbone is most assuredly making it.
 
I AM JOHN! said:
Quite honestly, I'd rather laugh at stupid nonsense fanart and the bizarre subsets of the Sonic fandom than read pages upon pages of posts analyzing the pixels of a sprite frame-by-frame of a poorly-encoded flash trailer to find some deeper meaning or thing we're missing.

I just liked it better when people were posting actual news/ things that popped up in the trailer (like the whole image overlay thing). I guess the whole smile thing was a little overboard though.

EDIT: Well funny fan art is one thing...but when it starts to turn towards the more off stuff, it just snowballs downhill from there. If backbone is developing the game though, this place is going to turn into a mine field.
 
I AM JOHN! said:
It's not like you can't do both at the same time, especially when there's no new information to glom onto for the next couple days aside from more posts about how we hope this game doesn't suck
when it probably will because Backbone is most assuredly making it.

I would love to find out that Backbone is in charge of development, as my tempered and piqued interest marred with high levels of skepticism and pessimism, would devolve into ceaseless manic and crazed laughter.

I doubt they are in charge though, as if that were the case, they would have just taken the tools from that "build your own Sonic levels" thing that Play Sega has, built levels with it, slapped a god awful filter on it, and called that Sonic 4.
 
I AM JOHN! said:
Quite honestly, I'd rather laugh at stupid nonsense fanart and the bizarre subsets of the Sonic fandom than read pages upon pages of posts analyzing the pixels of a sprite frame-by-frame of a poorly-encoded flash trailer to find some deeper meaning or thing we're missing. It's not like you can't do both at the same time, especially when there's no new information to glom onto for the next couple days aside from more posts about how we hope this game doesn't suck
when it probably will because Backbone is most assuredly making it.

Well, I mean, there's a virtually uncompressed, HD version of the trailer on Sega's Public Relations FTP...

What bothers me is that idiots like to stink up Sonic threads with awful fandom bullshit when that kind of stuff infests nearly every single other fandom as well. But for some reason the only time anybody ever decides to bring it up is with Sonic.

It may shock you, but some of us don't want to sift through images of Sonic and Tails kissing any more than we want to see images of Mega Man X and Zero kissing (or Mario and Luigi or...).

If you want to laugh at internet depravity, there are much better (dedicated) outlets for that sort of thing.
 
Would it kill Sega to hire a proofreader?
tory thus far:

It began as Sonic's animal friends begin disappearing from South Island. Soon Sonic discovers that evil scientist Dr. Eggman has been kidnapping them and turning them into robots to collect the legendary treasure - The Chaos Emeralds. Sonic decides it's up to him to save them and embarks on a quest to free his animal friends. Sonic battles Eggman through many different zones. Sonic eventually pursues Eggman to Final Zone where the first in many epic battles between them begins. In the end Sonic is victorious and Eggman's Mecha fly's away badly damaged. Sonic returns to Green Hill Zone and re-unites with his friends.

heir reunion is short lived however, as Eggman resurfaces and begins kidnapping Sonic friends again, in an effort to create more workers to finish his ultimate Weapon - The Death Egg! Teaming up with the newly met, Miles 'Tails' Prower, Sonic embarks on a new mission through West Side Island in an effort to free his friends and ensure Eggman does not obtain the 7 Chaos emeralds to fuel the Death Egg.

nce the West Side Island is freed, Sonic and Tails eventually board the Tornado and assault the Death Egg itself. After destroying Mecha Sonic, Eggman flees and enters his new Eggman Robot attacking Sonic! After a heated battle Sonic destroys the Eggman Robot and the Death Egg begins to explode.

onic and Tails fly down and come across mysterious island called Angel Island. This island is floating by the power of the precious stone called Master Emerald, but now this mysterious island are dropping down to the ocean surface because the Death Egg had been falling on this island. Sonic and Tails are attacked by a Red Echidna named Knuckles the guardian of the island.

Knuckles steals the Chaos emeralds from Sonic, being tricked by Eggman that he is an enemy come to take the Master Emerald.While Sonic and Tails are entangled by Knuckles, Eggman repairs the Death Egg and preps it for launch.

Sonic manages to jump on Death Egg just as it's flying off. After confronting Eggman on the Death Egg, Sonic defeats Eggman once more and the Death Egg plummets back to Angel Island.

Back on the ground Dr. Eggman begins the repairing Death Egg again. Feeling Knuckles has served his purpose, he sends EggRobo to eliminate this potential threat. EggRobo finds Knuckles relaxing in Mushroom Zone and drops a bomb on him but Knuckles manages to survive. Enraged, the Wild Echidna sets off to defeat EggRobo. Meanwhile Sonic and Tails explore the island to find traces of the Death Egg and find out Eggman's fate. After and Epic showdown between Sonic and Knuckles, Eggman uses the opportunity to finally steal the Master Emerald and re-launches the Death Egg. With the power of the emeralds, Sonic goes after Eggman, who has taken the Master Emerald into space.

onic and Tails secure the Master Emerald and return it to Knuckles on Angel Island. With it's power restored, the Angel Island lifts off into the sky as Sonic and Tails fly off into the sunset.

But this humiliating defeat only serves to further Eggman's rage, and he has determined once and for all to rid himself of Sonic. Eggman revisits - and improves - the very best of his creations to defeat our spiked hero.

And so a new Adventure begins...

That's exactly how it reads on the site, missing letters and all.
 
AniHawk said:
Would it kill Sega to hire a proofreader?


That's exactly how it reads on the site, missing letters and all.

I don't think it was always like that. When people mentioned they could access the "intro" section previously (by tabbing to it in the flash window before it was officially accessible), it looked fine to me.
 
Sega1991 said:
I don't think it was always like that. When people mentioned they could access the "intro" section previously (by tabbing to it in the flash window before it was officially accessible), it looked fine to me.

Well aside from that, they keep shifting tenses and use the wrong "its/it's" and probably more. I don't think "relaunch" and "reunite" are words that need hyphens either. It's kinda like the Sonic 06 site that said Silver came from light years in the future.
 
Ten-Song said:
I doubt they are in charge though, as if that were the case, they would have just taken the tools from that "build your own Sonic levels" thing that Play Sega has, built levels with it, slapped a god awful filter on it, and called that Sonic 4.
Hahahahahaha.

The worst part about this is it's true.
 
DeathbyVolcano said:
jesus this thread is creepy
Its all because of HUELEN.

HUELEN <3

Anyway, the reason I don't want any grinding because it wouldn't be a welcome feature, necessary or even demanded. I was OK with it in the advance titles because those were basically 2D representations of the modern Sonic. But do I want it in Sonic 4? Fuck the shits NO!!!!!

The story segments will be in the style of rush adventure more than S3&K, which will suck for everyone. And the game will be more about speed still, but a little more platformy than the last few 2D Sonics.

Is this a sure thing? No. Do I expect it" yeas. Do I want it? Fuck no!

Also, EmCeeGramr is on a roll :lol
 
AniHawk said:
Well aside from that, they keep shifting tenses and use the wrong "its/it's" and probably more. I don't think "relaunch" and "reunite" are words that need hyphens either. It's kinda like the Sonic 06 site that said Silver came from light years in the future.
Blaze wears a cape because she was teased because she can control fire, but she'll throw it off in an instant to help a friend.
 
Look. We keep demanding higher and higher quality everywhere we go. Better proof reading this. Tighter graphics on level 2 that.

There are only so many smart and talented people to spread around... just accept that we're not going to pull ourselves out of an economic recession if we don't hire the less talented to work on some stuff, including generally glossed over and useless story synopsis for some kiddy game that happens to have a core fanbase of grown up manbabies still pining over it.
 
Ericsc said:
I'm more disappointed they left out Sonic CD's story

While Sonic CD is my favorite of all Sonic games, I'm kind of okay with this... because the idea of Amy Rose being introduced into Sonic 4 scares the shit out of me.
 
Ten-Song said:
While Sonic CD is my favorite of all Sonic games, I'm kind of okay with this... because the idea of Amy Rose being introduced into Sonic 4 scares the shit out of me.

Good point.
 
HUELEN10 said:
I honestly thought that people might want to know about the whole sprites/model thing. As for the little findings such as the smile and stuff, it's not that unlike some of the stuff that gets posted in the "Facts" thread, so I don't know what the fuss is about.

I don't have one, and I am not an alt of anyone, the moderation and administration can confirm this. I've done no wrong, this is hardly basis for being labeled as an act of "retardation" as someone put it. All I wanted was to share that I was trying to clear a doubt that some in the community have been wondering about. If you have a beef with me, that's what the PM box is for. I don't troll, I don't flame, and I don't put up with bullshit for too long. Good night.

I contest this point on the basis that you claim to have actually liked Sonic Unleashed.
 
Ericsc said:
I'm more disappointed they left out Sonic CD's story

I thought about this, but Sonic's CD story is so balls to the wall strange (Robotnik chains an orbiting moon to the earth that Sonic must free, oh BTW said moon also can manipulate time) that I don't really see how they could fit it in there.
 
Brashnir said:
I contest this point on the basis that you claim to have actually liked Sonic Unleashed.

I like Sonic Unleashed and I'd like to think that's hardly a sign of insanity. I'll admit the game isn't perfect and not everybody will enjoy it, but that does not mean it is completely devoid of all merit. It's the best 3D Sonic game we've gotten since Sega was producing console hardware (oh but wait, "lololol even the best smelling turd is still a turd", right?).

Point is, I had fun with it. I didn't have fun with it all the time, but I had enough fun with it that I am willing to say I enjoyed the game. Not everything is in black and white "best game ever vs. worst game ever", after all.

Why are so many people in this thread suddenly out for blood?
 
Sega1991 said:
Why are so many people in this thread suddenly out for blood?

Cuz there is a good portion of them that are cynical dicks that like to tear down and nitpick anything that isn't perfect. Attacking goofy, yet cheerful people like HUELEN just because he's a Sonic fan. All he did was notice Sonic still has his smirk on when he's in motion and people act like he's some kinda psycho.

HUELEN, you're the one crazy beam of optimism in a large, dark cloud of pessimism.:D
 
Zaptruder said:
Look. We keep demanding higher and higher quality everywhere we go. Better proof reading this. Tighter graphics on level 2 that.

There are only so many smart and talented people to spread around... just accept that we're not going to pull ourselves out of an economic recession if we don't hire the less talented to work on some stuff, including generally glossed over and useless story synopsis for some kiddy game that happens to have a core fanbase of grown up manbabies still pining over it.

That is a very harsh analysis of the situation. There has got to be a good reason for being a frothing adult Sonic fan that you simply haven't been exposed to yet.
 
Sega1991 said:
I like Sonic Unleashed and I'd like to think that's hardly a sign of insanity. I'll admit the game isn't perfect and not everybody will enjoy it, but that does not mean it is completely devoid of all merit. It's the best 3D Sonic game we've gotten since Sega was producing console hardware (oh but wait, "lololol even the best smelling turd is still a turd", right?).

Point is, I had fun with it. I didn't have fun with it all the time, but I had enough fun with it that I am willing to say I enjoyed the game. Not everything is in black and white "best game ever vs. worst game ever", after all.

Why are so many people in this thread suddenly out for blood?

I didn't say it was a sign of insanity. I said it was a sign that he can, in fact, put up with bullshit for a long time.
 
HUELEN10 said:
So wait, let me get this straight, poking through a website is awesome, but analyzing footage is crazy?

I'm gonna be as succinct and polite as I can:

Nobody gives a shit Sonic is smiling. Or not. Or smirking or whatever.

Well, except you.
 
Regulus Tera said:
I'm gonna be as succinct and polite as I can:

Nobody gives a shit Sonic is smiling. Or not. Or smirking or whatever.

Well, except you.

You say that, but it was brought up several times earlier by people who were not Huelen, regarding Sonic's facial expression in the logo...
 
Id say caring about the eye color is much worse than worrying about his facial expression in game.

But the lesson is, if youre worrying about that then its a good cue to chill the fuck out.
 
Sega1991 said:
I like Sonic Unleashed and I'd like to think that's hardly a sign of insanity. I'll admit the game isn't perfect and not everybody will enjoy it, but that does not mean it is completely devoid of all merit. It's the best 3D Sonic game we've gotten since Sega was producing console hardware (oh but wait, "lololol even the best smelling turd is still a turd", right?).

Point is, I had fun with it. I didn't have fun with it all the time, but I had enough fun with it that I am willing to say I enjoyed the game. Not everything is in black and white "best game ever vs. worst game ever", after all.

Why are so many people in this thread suddenly out for blood?

Because when Sonic fans are finally given what they want, we descend into chaos and begin to tear each other apart.

We're like the ancient Israelites, in a way.
 
So yeah, I just listened to the title screen music, and that thing is absolutely horrid. Well...maybe not horrid but it's definatly not suited for the Sonic series. It seems too MDI for my liking. The Rock version fits much better with the tone of the series IMHO
 
I'm late to the party here, GAF, but I just checked out the new teaser, and I must say, in my opinion, I see S O M E potential.

What did I miss though? I'm too afraid to check the past pages. :lol
 
Alphahawk said:
So yeah, I just listened to the title screen music, and that thing is absolutely horrid. Well...maybe not horrid but it's definatly not suited for the Sonic series. It seems too MDI for my liking. The Rock version fits much better with the tone of the series IMHO

No version fits, because it's just a lame and soulless jingle. Instead of trying to be catchy and cool sounding, it wants to emulate what already exists, and it does so poorly.
 
Alphahawk said:
So yeah, I just listened to the title screen music, and that thing is absolutely horrid. Well...maybe not horrid but it's definatly not suited for the Sonic series. It seems too MDI for my liking. The Rock version fits much better with the tone of the series IMHO
I don't know, I think it definitely fits with the tone of the series to the point that it's using the exact same drum beats as the classic Sonic title music. It just isn't very good. It feels like it's missing something. EDIT: Ten-Song put it best - it feels soulless.

I'll never understand the whole "SONIC SHOULD NOT ROCK" movement. Part of what has always been great about the series is that it's been so musically varied. Sonic has always been a series, I feel, where you could juxtapose something with a disco tinge with something funky with balls out effin' rocking with dancey house music with something more orchestral and it all works. It's part of why I think Sonic Adventure 2's soundtrack is so great - it has plenty of lows (any Knuckles song, for example), but it's so incredibly varied and out there and every single character has their own unique sound that it's something really special. If anything, I'd love to see a new Sonic game take all these disparate elements of Sonic music and bring them all together to create the most insanely varied soundtrack of all time. Also because I want Sega to release Naganuma from whatever closet they have him locked in. :(
 
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