Shadow Hog
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As it should be.
Seriously, they did a bang-up job of emulating that aspect of older Sonic titles. Actually started with Unleashed, but they nailed it there, and it carried over to Generations (and Colors, I think).
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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread: Green Hills and Laughing Iizukas
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Seriously, they did a bang-up job of emulating that aspect of older Sonic titles. Actually started with Unleashed, but they nailed it there, and it carried over to Generations (and Colors, I think).
ColtraineGF
Member
It was deliberate after all the natter over his Adventure mouth. Interesting thing is, the mouth changes position depending on which side is close to the camera - when people were ripping the animations from the 360 ver. way back, both mouths could be seen at the same time.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Oh gosh, I remember when I thought some of the early friends' challenges were stupid as hell.
And then I got to Vector's.
So that's what turning Omochao on is like! Those subtitle boxes really get in the way, and I thought they were somewhat irritating in the final boss fight.
Part of me feels bad that you're going to waste your reading week on Sonic 2006 of all things. At the very least, waste your Family Day on it.
And part of me really wants to know your reaction when you get to the physics-based gameplay that's better than Half-Life 2's. You did say you were going to complete it all when you started this anyway.
I'll be wasting my reading week by finishing up my concurrent playthroughs of Unleashed Wii and Unleashed HD, and probably starting that new Suikoden game if it gets to me during that week. (And also, a few dates since we're not going out for Valentine's Day tomorrow; it's needlessly expensive, imo. :3)
Azure Dream
Member
The most annoying thing, and this is something Pokecapn complains about in that video, is that there's literally no time between when you're presented with a situation, and when Omochao pops up to tell you what to do next. It takes a lot of the reward out of it because you're never given a moment to work out things for yourself.
BlazeHedgehog
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I foolishly spent $60 on Sonic 2006. It was the first and only game I had for my Xbox 360. Even though it was Oblivion and Gears of War that really solidified my decision to get an Xbox, I technically bought the system for Sonic. That same 360 red ringed two weeks after I got it and was at Microsoft's repair center for over three months because they actually lost my console. I got Xbox 360 games for Christmas that I couldn't play until it was nearly March. It was a dark time.
That video acts as a little bit of absolution, in a way. If somebody wants to take that away from me, be it by claiming I'm lying (or hacking), or otherwise making excuses for the game... well, I can't let that stand without saying something.
Maybe that makes me a little bit crazy.
Don't get me wrong, though. I do laugh at a lot of the comments I get. Especially the ones from what are probably little kids who seem to be blind with rage that I dare hate on their favorite game ever.
Why yes, yes it is.
Haha saw this picture on tumblr today. Spoils the end of Sonic Generations so fair warning.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Every night.
Seems forced with the pics next to him, but lol
What should have happened is
Sonic comes back--and it's 06 Sonic, ending up further in the future than he was suppose to be. Upon seeing "Modern" Sonic he attacks him, yelling "YOU LIED TO ME!!"
I saw that troll face in my head as I was watching the ending. I think we all did.
I was hoping Sonic would commit suicide at the end after he said that. Your future is so bleak, Classic Sonic ;_;
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Feeling down on Valentine's Day, Sonic-GAF. I didn't even get a card or a dollar plushie. I usually get one even though we usually do something the week after (I think he forgot). 
In Green Hill, it made sense for Omochao to tell you what to do in a tutorial sense, but I didn't expect it to tell you what to do for everything. That takes so much out of figuring things out for yourself and the satisfaction you feel thereafter. It makes traversal a little boring, I guess.
I can't believe they're claiming that you're lying and hacking to make the game look bad even though that's the way it is by default.
I like this recent comment:
And this one:
I noticed that too. Omochao should give you hints when you're having trouble during the level or fighting the boss.
In Green Hill, it made sense for Omochao to tell you what to do in a tutorial sense, but I didn't expect it to tell you what to do for everything. That takes so much out of figuring things out for yourself and the satisfaction you feel thereafter. It makes traversal a little boring, I guess.
Yeouch. That's pretty bad. Nice to know that the video was made as a 'theraputic' kind of thing, though.
I can't believe they're claiming that you're lying and hacking to make the game look bad even though that's the way it is by default.
I like this recent comment:
Why do people constantly spout this story when it's unfounded?
And this one:
I played the PS3 version where the framerate was poor, glitching was all over the place, and for some reason, it seems even worse than the 360 version in terms of load times. It was awful, and the narrative is garbage and cannot be salvaged. How people think Sonic 2006 actually has a passable narrative is beyond me.
I don't even know what this means.
Professor Beef
Banned
You didn't get anything? Well then, from me to you, Schala:
Get it? It says "bee," and it has a picture of a bee on it!
Get it? It says "bee," and it has a picture of a bee on it!
Feeling down on Valentine's Day, Sonic-GAF. I didn't even get a card or a dollar plushie. I usually get one even though we usually do something the week after (I think he forgot).
D:
Here, apparently these were a thing:
Hot Coldman
Banned
Make him play 06 as punishment.
Shadow Hog
Member
Make him play Sonic Genesis as a punishment.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
You didn't get anything, Schala? Here's a Sonic teddy bear for you
Professor Beef
Banned
...the fuck
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Well, look around at GAF. There's more than a few people who roam these boards who fight tooth and nail for their favorite videogame company, sometimes beyond the point of reason. Some people do not want to believe that blame could be laid at Sega's feet; so when somebody suggests a theory that maybe it wasn't Sega's fault, well, they latch on to that.
My understanding is, the idea that Microsoft and Sony rushed Sega to finish Sonic 2006 was born out of a statement made by Yojiro Ogawa (the man originally responsible for the Wii port of Sonic 2006 and who decided to instead make Secret Rings) where he refers to the fact that the team "felt pressured" to get the game out.
He never specifies the source of this "pressure".
Yojiro Ogawa on Sonic 2006 said:
http://info.sonicretro.org/Game_Development:Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(2006_game)
They extrapolated from his phrasing that this meant Sega was completely innocent and it was Microsoft and Sony pushing for the game to be released before it was finished. In defense of this crazy theory, Sonic 2006 is featured on first-run 360 game console boxes in the "enjoy many great titles like..." section.
But given the game was not really an exclusive for either platform and Microsoft was likely too busy actually pushing Epic to get Gears of War out, I sincerely doubt they gave a shit about Sonic 2006 beyond the notion that "this will probably sell at lot for Sega and we need a kids game to put on the back of our box so we seem diverse".
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Awww... thanks, guys. You're all really sweet. <3
I plan on giving him an earful later because I actually baked stuff. Making him play Sonic games he probably won't like sounds fitting because he doesn't care for recent Sonic games much.
It sounds a lot like the 'pressure' comes out of meeting fiscal year/holiday sales or something like that. Not from either console company at all.
But I guess you're right re: the company loyalty thing. That mentality never really made a lot of sense to me, but I understand why it exists.
I plan on giving him an earful later because I actually baked stuff. Making him play Sonic games he probably won't like sounds fitting because he doesn't care for recent Sonic games much.
These are so adorable. :3D:
Here, apparently these were a thing:
This is the best thing I've seen all day. I mean that. :lol
That sounds like it was on Sega's side, not MS's or Sony's at all. I doubt either Sony or Microsoft would even care about a Sonic game being on their platforms because it isn't exactly a major game that either company would promote heavily (outside of Microsoft showing the diversity of the system's library).
It sounds a lot like the 'pressure' comes out of meeting fiscal year/holiday sales or something like that. Not from either console company at all.
But I guess you're right re: the company loyalty thing. That mentality never really made a lot of sense to me, but I understand why it exists.
Seven Force
Banned
The internet never ceases to amaze.
Azure Dream
Member
It's just a regular emulation of the game with one of the layers turned off, isn't it?
I do this a bunch when I'm grabbing sprites. It's also fun to do this at the end of Sonic 2, because you take out the ship and just battle the Death Egg Robot in space.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Yeah, pokecapn just turned the foreground layer off I think
Still, so silly
Still, so silly
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
That makes two of us. And it's my birthday too!Feeling down on Valentine's Day, Sonic-GAF. I didn't even get a card or a dollar plushie. I usually get one even though we usually do something the week after (I think he forgot).
/hugs
Professor Beef
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SpikedGunner
Member
D:
Here, apparently these were a thing:
I still have the upper right one, good times.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
D:
Here, apparently these were a thing:
I like how they use Sega art for the Sonic cards but use the TV show art for Tails and Robotnik.
Shadow Hog
Member
Reminds me of when Sonic the Comic took a more or less game-accurate depiction of Robotnik and then turned him into AoStH's Robotnik for no apparent reason (executive meddling, I presume)... despite the Robotnik in question being more like SatAM's Robotnik in pure villainy. Made for an interesting contrast, I suppose, but it started to get silly around Sonic Adventure where they didn't re-redesign him, but just tossed AoStH Robotnik into Adventure Eggman's outfit...
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Replaying Eggmanland HD to prepare for the Wii version of Eggmanland. A few questions:
1) The idea of a hybrid level that combines Werehog and Hedgehog is a clever idea, but who came up with the level design? It's awful. :|
2) How does Robotnik even get funding for his tacky schemes? Eggmanland is a fashion disaster.
1) The idea of a hybrid level that combines Werehog and Hedgehog is a clever idea, but who came up with the level design? It's awful. :|
2) How does Robotnik even get funding for his tacky schemes? Eggmanland is a fashion disaster.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Since I played Sonic 2 as a kid I've wondered that too. How does Robotnik finance all his schemes, giant robots, eggmobile gadgetry, Sonic robots, badniks and Death Eggs? Isn't he on, like, Death Egg number 3 by now? Building a massive planet-sized space hideout like that can't be cheap, especially when all banks know it'll inevitably be blown up by Sonic, so they'll refuse Robotnik loans. Maybe the financial burden of debt will be what finally defeats Robotnik.
Azure Dream
Member
Think about all the previous levels set in mines and caves. He stockpiled the resources and has been working off them or selling them ever since.
Not to mention Oil Ocean Zone!
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Yeah, but could his involvment in the oil drilling industry, mining industry, gambling industry and chemical manufacturing industry really finance all those Death Stars and massive air bases? Maybe he builds medical equipment and industrial robots on the side to finance his shit.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I imagine that the mines and industrial bits in Sonic CD went bust if you went through and got the good future versions of each level.
Maybe he gets some of his money from his mom.
Why would he do something which benefits humanity when he's out to do things like break the world apart? That seems pretty counterproductive.Combichristoffersen said:
I wonder how much money he lost in the time period between Colours and Generations, then, lol.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Why would he do something which benefits humanity when he's out to do things like break the world apart? That seems pretty counterproductive.
It's his dirty little secret that he can never let Sonic know; that he has to resort to building equipment that benefits humanity in order to finance his schemes. And the license costs for the software used to control and monitor his empire would be enormous, unless he's using open-source software exclusively, or he pirated it all, that scoundrel.
Can't see it due to blocked content, and trying to watch it via a web proxy was slow as shit ._. What is it?
Azure Dream
Member
Just a clip from Sonic X where Eggman was in prison, having to fix appliances. (Which he of course embedded special chips inside for later.)
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I see. Maybe he could build all those robots Foxconn were planning to use in their factories?
BlazeHedgehog
Member
A clip from Sonic X. Eggman and his two lackeys are in jailhouse uniforms and Eggman is rapid-fire repairing appliances within seconds. Refrigerators, washing machines, vacuums, air purifiers, etc.
"Dr. Eggman! You're going way too fast! Can't you slow down?"
Eggman explains that the reason the prison's repair factory is so flooded with busted electronics is because everybody is adopting Sonic's carefree life-style. Nobody is taking care of their stuff anymore, so it breaks from misuse, and instead of stamping license plates or working the chain-gang, at this prison, you repair electronics.
"But, if Sonic's the one responsible for all of this, why don't you just stop fixing them?"
Eggman reveals that he's implanting a special microchip in all of the things he's repairing, and he'll use it to take down Sonic once and for all.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I'm wondering, were these images censored in the 4kids version?
Probably, because I know they'd edit out cleavage in Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh.
They also censored Rouge.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Speaking of laughing at comments I get on my Sonic 2006 video:
Sometimes I think I should start a tumblr to post these, but it's a running joke among my friends that I will never, ever, ever get a tumblr.
Sometimes I think I should start a tumblr to post these, but it's a running joke among my friends that I will never, ever, ever get a tumblr.
Azure Dream
Member
There's a scene where Amy points out that they used a bad picture on an official ID she got, at the start of Season 2 I think. 4Kids actually went through and scrubbed off the information that was originally written on the ID. That was all in English.
So... yeah.
To their credit, the unedited (to my knowledge, even down to Sonic yelling "SHIT!" at one point) episodes are available now on I think their official Youtube channel, Hulu and stuff, but they might be subbed-only.
Edit: In fact, they did this a lot more than I realized. Although I guess I don't blame them for taking out "LOVE POO!" (1:44) and some of the more Engrishy writing.
Look out, you can READ HIS NAME.
...Maybe it was a copyrighted image? ...Maybe they were scared it would give a kid a seizure?
Never heard of Mondriaan? He was a Dutch painter who made paintings like that.
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