Bryank75
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1.83T , it's a crazy market cap.
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Sony Corporation (SNE) hits 138.8 Billion market value
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Captain Toad
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Nintendo and Sony both have highly successful gaming divisions and both make great games and hardware.
Bryank75
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I guess this is what I remembered
Nintendo Is Reportedly Japan's Richest Company Of 2020
With billions in the bankwww.nintendolife.com
Yeah, that's a bit skewed against companies like Toyota and Sony as they are in manufacturing. So all inventory and everything else become liabilities and actually make them seem way less valuable. Whereas a company like Nintendo has no real manufacturing operations. It means they are a very nimble company and can adapt very quickly in some ways.
pasterpl
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it is even crazier when you realise that they are mainly service company that doesn’t manufacture anything and physical goods sales are small fraction of their business (but that’s most of the big tech companies (excluding Apple))
TKOFromTokyo
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I think that there are so many more options for buying TVs now and Sony’s market share has decreased while Samsung and LG have ballooned. According to this article, Sony last had the lead in global market share in 2005. It’s pretty impressive to see that the Korean companies have been able to disrupt the market so much. It will be interesting to see how Chinese company sales grow over the next decade. I’m not sure that Sony can or should try to compete for more market share. I don’t think they would want to water down their brand value to compete more on a volume basis.
[Graphic News] Samsung tops global TV market for 14th year
Samsung Electronics topped the global TV market for the 14th consecutive year in 2019, industry data showed Wednesday, on the back of robust sales of its QLED TVs. The South Korean tech giant took up 30.9 percent of the global TV market last year in terms of sales revenue, up 1.9 percentage...
www.koreaherald.com
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TKOFromTokyo
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I guess this is what I remembered
Nintendo Is Reportedly Japan's Richest Company Of 2020
With billions in the bank
Ah, that’s cash on hand rather than their overall value. One might argue they should be putting that cash into use for growing the company rather than sitting on it. I know that I wish Nintendo would.
Genx3
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When did I state that Sony doesn't produce great TV's?
I stated that in the past Sony TV's were the clear cut best but that is no longer true. The competition is on par or better now.
I would like Sony to get back to delivering the clear cut best TV's on the market because we know they are capable of it.
That is all.
lukilladog
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They always hire people, but these companies are getting rich during the pandemic, so I´d like them to give something in return.
Athena~
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Yeah much bigger. They were worth about $200 billion back in the early 2000. Stocks still about 35% below their all time high.
Still 3rd place. under SoftBank too. They have been 3rd or 4th place for a long time now.Just to add...... Sony is now Japans 2nd most valuable company. Toyota is still number 1.
Japan Top Companies in 2024
Japan Top Companies by Market Cap in 2024, Japan Largest Companies in 2024, Japan Biggest Companies by Market Cap in 2024.www.value.today
As an investor I worry most about Sony is that too much debt, too low profits, and Apple/Amazon getting into the game. Selling some shares soon thanks for the pump!
Bryank75
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They have barely any debt.
You might have missed the last few days news about Google shutting down all their first party studios and Amazon studios being a complete disaster too....
They can buy a 3rd party but they are just dragging them down to die.
hybrid_birth
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Im glad they scrapped that idea for a donation button on ps homescreen.
Killer Sakoman
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They were overvalued like all US tech now. The US tech bubble will eventually burst too.
Sony is currently very healthy. They have potential to grow. I would invest if I had enough money to put aside for few years.
Bryank75
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Yeah, they are really great value right now. If you got in earlier, you still have a fair amount of growth ahead.
mejin
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what about the Nintendo from B Bodomism ?Just to add...... Sony is now Japans 2nd most valuable company. Toyota is still number 1.
Japan Top Companies in 2024
Japan Top Companies by Market Cap in 2024, Japan Largest Companies in 2024, Japan Biggest Companies by Market Cap in 2024.
NewYork214
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Glad I purchased more stock before their call today 
So they are not the most valuable comapny then?... I hate the play on words with those. NBA is the most popular sport in the world, only behind FIFA... so just sayits its the second most valuable and leave it at that.
Great Hair
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Sonya 4Life!
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Time to Microsoft buy them
Virt McPolygon
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Now can they bring back the Sony stores in the US?
Negotiator101
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Microsoft make more in a quarter than Sony makes all year, just no point.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Point is to eliminate useless "twin" console of the market.
Fake
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Impossible. Just one of them can have profit. The other is dommed.
mckmas8808
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Nice to have an insider and not an Otaku running the company. Sony has done well.
Great Hair
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Armgunar has an in depth detail thread of Sony´s recent revenue. He claims that PS4+PS5 Q32020 were more profitable than any/all PS1 fiscal years and a few during the PS2 and PS3 generation.
But if we adjust the values (inflation), that´s not the case. Comparing consoles without ps+, digital downloads, indies etc. with modern ones is kinda "unfair".
But if we adjust the values (inflation), that´s not the case. Comparing consoles without ps+, digital downloads, indies etc. with modern ones is kinda "unfair".
bitbydeath
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No. You don’t buy with market cap. They could buy Sony once and dry up all their available cash flow which in turn could kill Microsoft. Now wouldn’t that be a sight to behold?
megreotsugua
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If I have to guess what's the motivation for most people to buy in, it's the Sony Vision S. Many are speculating that this is a real car that Sony will commercialize. Right now it's under public road testing. While it may be a risk for Sony, it gives a lot of potential for future growth.
www.sony.net
Sony Group Portal - VISION-S | GALLERY
In pursuit of the next generation of mobility, Sony's VISION-S project is now advancing to the real world. Sony will leverage the power of creativity and technology to contribute to the further evolution of mobility, for a safer and more prosperous society.
thelastword
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I remember when Sony was selling buildings and trimming the fat, some people were meming, some even furious......Even when EVO was shutdown, we've given them lots of flak, but in truth EVO was burning lots of money and they were not profitable for a while. Business is business, you have to make the tough decisions or you can sink. Sony is taking no chances anymore after the company's tough times in the PS3 era, just keeping things afloat just for namesake is not happening again......Things could have been so different had Kaz not stepped in and made the tough and right decisions.....Kudos to Kaz for turning things around....
Tbh, when I think of the most important and and tide turning CEO's in recent memory......The achievement has to go to Kaz Hirai and Lisa Su......What a team these two would make....
Tbh, when I think of the most important and and tide turning CEO's in recent memory......The achievement has to go to Kaz Hirai and Lisa Su......What a team these two would make....
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