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[Three]

1.You are misinformed, there are no nude scenes in Super Seducer games, the only sex scene happens off-screen. What is crude about it? And what is innapropriate about it?

2.So a heterosexual dating simulator where the protagonist has off-screen sex is crude, but a homosexual dating simulator where a post-teen has sex with 'daddies' is not crude?

3.I could say that most PS4 exclusives are shit, that does not make my opinion reality, and Rape Day is the definition of a game that had a lot of bad agents against it, most of them SJWs and moral busy-body senators. And it is still not citation, it is just, your opinion! You understand the term 'citation'?

4.Citation that they got in a lot of shit for it, besides Schreier that cuck, soyboy no one gave a shit that Sorceress has big boobs.

A.So you saying that Sony is afraid that they will get a lot of shit if they show women with big boobs and a lot of cleavage from the gaming "journalists" so they are happy to censor theirs and others games to please them, yet they are creating a heavily homosexual game with the intention of taking a lot of BIGGER shit (we are talking fines in the 6 digits here) of one of the strongest governments in the world? Is this what you are saying?

B.So, 2 14-year-olds kissing in the mouth is OK with you? Just asking it here to be sure.

Who said full nudity. There are people in bras with hanging tits in the game though and it is kind of crude in style with what they say and do. Like my dick being inside you and things like that. I am not uninformed.

What citation do you need other than the fact that there is a lot of shit that gets passed on steam? The fact that their curation is a lot more lax is self evident in the crap that gets released there. Opinion or not what does it matter to the argument that steam is lax?

No I am saying that what they might deem 'perverted' stuff may be something they want to avoid and a lesbian kiss is not something that is deemed perverted to them in comparison to the video I showed you of tit fondeling. Like HBO may not want to associate with porn (and they removed their porn) but may show Game of thrones. The government of China is again irrelevant and if the game is censored for that region for them to avoid that shit I'm sure you will be in this thread again complaining.

 

[Three]

Not putting the game on the Xbox does not imply that Microsoft bans it, though. I can't even begin to discuss that since I have no idea if Super Seducer was ever considered for the platform.

It really doesn't matter why some issues are present on the PS4 but not other platforms. The end result is my experience is worse on the PS4 with these games so I'm moving away from Sony when I can. The issues with Sony are quite unpredictable so I've lost confidence.

I really want the ability to buy the DOA6 costumes I want which I can on my XB1. I would need to spend more money to buy bundles on the PS4. That's a tangible issue. Sony has confirmed a censorship policy but can't actually detail it. That is a huge concern for me but it's not the only issue Sony has that's driving me to other platforms.

Super seducer 2 was considered and it hasn't shown up. It likely never will.

The DOA issue I don't see how that is related to censorship. It's more one selling you it piecemeal which you like and the other selling you it in a bundle. It's your choice in the end though.

 

[CatCouch]

Super seducer 2 was considered and it hasn't shown up. It likely never will.

The DOA issue I don't see how that is related to censorship. It's more one selling you it piecemeal which you like and the other selling you it in a bundle. It's your choice in the end though.

Can I see a citation for Super Seducer 2 being considered for the Xbox?

I have a choice to buy individual costumes or bundles of the costumes on the Xbox One. I can only buy bundles on the PS4 (in NA, I think you can buy individual costumes in Japan). The choice I have is to buy the game on another platform to avoid spending unnecessary money. It's not a censorship issue but it is another issue on top of issues that push me away from Sony.

I think a big problem with Sony is they do not know what their own policy is. If they truly believed Senran Kagura is damaging why would they not just ban the game? The censorship in Renewal is rather low. It still has content in it that similar games have had censored out. There seems to be very little consistency behind Sony censoring. Why is a bikini blocked in one game but DOA Xtreme 3 still allowed to release? Why is full nudity allowed in western games? Why are multiple "Teen" rated games being censored now?

I think Sony still wants my money, they still want to sell these games but they do not want to associate with them which is creating a weird tension that hurts the developers. It's astoundingly bad leadership to not have guidelines for what developer can and can't have in their games. I simply cannot trust games on a Sony platform now, that's the unfortunate reality.

 

[Enygger_Tzu]

Who said full nudity. There are people in bras with hanging tits in the game though and it is kind of crude in style with what they say and do. Like my dick being inside you and things like that. I am not uninformed.

What citation do you need other than the fact that there is a lot of shit that gets passed on steam? The fact that their curation is a lot more lax is self evident in the crap that gets released there. Opinion or not what does it matter to the argument that steam is lax?

No I am saying that what they might deem 'perverted' stuff may be something they want to avoid and a lesbian kiss is not something that is deemed perverted to them in comparison to the video I showed you of tit fondeling. Like HBO may not want to associate with porn (and they removed their porn) but may show Game of thrones. The government of China is again irrelevant and if the game is censored for that region for them to avoid that shit I'm sure you will be in this thread again complaining.

So, a heterosexual dating sim that features off-screen sex is banned and a homosexual sim that features off-screen sex but has the same ammount of humor to the point that the store curators had to write that made them uncomfortable is endorsed? Weird, don't you think?

I want something more than your opinion, because, from what I see, most of those are games are games in good standing, sorry if you don't like them, you can always go back to Cinecharter, I guess.

No I am saying that what they might deem 'perverted' stuff may be something they want to avoid and a lesbian kiss is not something that is deemed perverted to them in comparison to the video I showed you of tit fondeling. Like HBO may not want to associate with porn (and they removed their porn) but may show Game of thrones. The government of China is again irrelevant and if the game is censored for that region for them to avoid that shit I'm sure you will be in this thread again complaining.

Irrelevant, your words, you used the term "they got in a lot of shit" (citation still needed on that) for Dragon's Crown and GoW3 sex appeal and sex scenes, by..journalists. Yet, they won't censor their games or won't censor their old games (bot TloUs, to be specific) for China, even if the distribution of homosexual material is prohibited there? So Sony is afraid shit from journalists but not of one of the most powerful governments of the world? And no, they still have yet to edit the two 14-year old kissing scene from Left Behind.

 

[Three]

Can I see a citation for Super Seducer 2 being considered for the Xbox?

I have a choice to buy individual costumes or bundles of the costumes on the Xbox One. I can only buy bundles on the PS4 (in NA, I think you can buy individual costumes in Japan). The choice I have is to buy the game on another platform to avoid spending unnecessary money. It's not a censorship issue but it is another issue on top of issues that push me away from Sony.

I think a big problem with Sony is they do not know what their own policy is. If they truly believed Senran Kagura is damaging why would they not just ban the game? The censorship in Renewal is rather low. It still has content in it that similar games have had censored out. There seems to be very little consistency behind Sony censoring. Why is a bikini blocked in one game but DOA Xtreme 3 still allowed to release? Why is full nudity allowed in western games? Why are multiple "Teen" rated games being censored now?

I think Sony still wants my money, they still want to sell these games but they do not want to associate with them which is creating a weird tension that hurts the developers. It's astoundingly bad leadership to not have guidelines for what developer can and can't have in their games. I simply cannot trust games on a Sony platform now, that's the unfortunate reality.

The creator said so and did not even fancy his chances himself



Fair enough if it's just a feeling you have. As for it affecting Japanese games only that I've seen mentioned several times that's not the case. It's anything considered lewd and that same vague wording exists in all policies. You are right it may seem inconsistent based on what one person considers lewd but if some japanese game had a sex scene like say Deus Ex does it would not be considered lewd. Girls in school uniforms bouncing their knockers while you rip away at thier clothes likely will.

 

[CatCouch]

The creator said so and did not even fancy his chances himself



Fair enough if it's just a feeling you have. As for it affecting Japanese games only that I've seen mentioned several times that's not the case. It's anything considered lewd and that same vague wording exists in all policies. You are right it may seem inconsistent based on what one person considers lewd but if some japanese game had a sex scene like say Deus Ex does it would not be considered lewd. Girls in school uniforms bouncing their knockers while you rip away at thier clothes likely will.

Oh, really. That's interesting. I guess we'll see what happens with it! I'm very interested in seeing if Microsoft blocks it. If it has a ESRB rating then I can't see Nintendo blocking it as they already stated they don't interfere. Moero Chronicle H comes out on the Switch soon and it's uncensored. I imported that on the Vita and it's pretty sexy so Nintendo is fine on the anime titties front.

I can't think of any console Japanese games that have sex scenes so I'm not sure we will have examples to compare and contrast to. The rating board in Japan is pretty strict on nudity.

Just to point out, Sony is not blocking Senran Kagura from having girls in school uniforms bounce their knockers around while they lose their clothes. All of that is intact in SK Renewal. Almost everything is intact in DOA Xtreme 3, which kind of makes the censorship pointless. It does not get rid of anything that will cause media backlash.

I am actually baffled at what Sony considers unacceptable. I can't find any consistency. Not even on the Japanese front since, as you've pointed out, they actually banned Super Seducer. Just about every example of what Sony has censored in Japanese games can be countered with a similar example that was not censored.

Sony really should have stuck to the rating boards.

 

[Three]

Oh, really. That's interesting. I guess we'll see what happens with it! I'm very interested in seeing if Microsoft blocks it. If it has a ESRB rating then I can't see Nintendo blocking it as they already stated they don't interfere. Moero Chronicle H comes out on the Switch soon and it's uncensored. I imported that on the Vita and it's pretty sexy so Nintendo is fine on the anime titties front.

I can't think of any console Japanese games that have sex scenes so I'm not sure we will have examples to compare and contrast to. The rating board in Japan is pretty strict on nudity.

Just to point out, Sony is not blocking Senran Kagura from having girls in school uniforms bounce their knockers around while they lose their clothes. All of that is intact in SK Renewal. Almost everything is intact in DOA Xtreme 3, which kind of makes the censorship pointless. It does not get rid of anything that will cause media backlash.

I am actually baffled at what Sony considers unacceptable. I can't find any consistency. Not even on the Japanese front since, as you've pointed out, they actually banned Super Seducer. Just about every example of what Sony has censored in Japanese games can be countered with a similar example that was not censored.

Sony really should have stuck to the rating boards.

Yeah the part that isn't intact and why somebody listed it here is because you can't fondle their breasts anymore.

 

[CatCouch]

Yeah the part that isn't intact and why somebody listed it here is because you can't fondle their breasts anymore.

I believe you can interact with/touch the characters in Nekopara vol.1 even after it was censored on the PS4. I did not buy it on the PS4, though, so I don't have first hand (ha) knowledge. It just seems that Sony censors games in such an inconsistent manner no one can get a grasp on it.

It's not just the censorship that sucks, though. Senran Kagura had to be delayed for a few months because of it. I'm sure that cost Marvelous and probably lost them a number of sales, too. The future of the series seems bleak. At least the lewdest games are on the Switch in NA for me to buy!

 

[Three]

I believe you can interact with/touch the characters in Nekopara vol.1 even after it was censored on the PS4. I did not buy it on the PS4, though, so I don't have first hand (ha) knowledge. It just seems that Sony censors games in such an inconsistent manner no one can get a grasp on it.

It's not just the censorship that sucks, though. Senran Kagura had to be delayed for a few months because of it. I'm sure that cost Marvelous and probably lost them a number of sales, too. The future of the series seems bleak. At least the lewdest games are on the Switch in NA for me to buy!

which is nice for the switch.
Because they are stuck behind a rock and a hard place. They stick to the ratings board but still try to curate in some manner without blocking release. Meanwhile somebody doesn't even touch these games with a ten foot pole and avoids all criticism which is the throwing out the baby with the bath water people seem to be asking for.

The petting mode in Nekopara is not quite the same as the intimacy mode in SK

 

[Pimpbaa]

It's not just the censorship that sucks, though. Senran Kagura had to be delayed for a few months because of it. I'm sure that cost Marvelous and probably lost them a number of sales, too. The future of the series seems bleak. At least the lewdest games are on the Switch in NA for me to buy!

I don't know why they didn't just move the series to the Switch. I mean for the longest while the only place you could play them was on the 3DS and Vita and thus they seemed fine with working on mobile hardware.

 

[Mod of War]

Lol, Sony is so pussy whipped. It was always the beta console anyways. I mean, look at prententious trash like Journey and Flower.

Raise your level of discussion please.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

I don't know why they didn't just move the series to the Switch. I mean for the longest while the only place you could play them was on the 3DS and Vita and thus they seemed fine with working on mobile hardware.

I would guess it's because the PS4's userbase is really big and the jury was out on how the Switch would perform leading up to launch. Now we are more than 2 years into the Switch's lifecycle and have a good idea of its sales performance (it's very very good).

 

[ambientmystic]

Finally they came out and admitted it. Looks like the bigwigs in California are dictating how their world wide affiliates are running things now.

Never thought they'd revert to this after the trashing they took in the PS3 era, they've come a long way from their humble promises at the beginning of the PS4 era.

 

[Pimpbaa]

I would guess it's because the PS4's userbase is really big and the jury was out on how the Switch would perform leading up to launch. Now we are more than 2 years into the Switch's lifecycle and have a good idea of its sales performance (it's very very good).

This is true, but I thought the ps4 userbase is considerably lower than the Switch in Japan. Why would the creator of the series up and leave just because of censorship issues on a console? Particularly in a country where gamers prefer mobile hardware over consoles.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

This is true, but I thought the ps4 userbase is considerably lower than the Switch in Japan. Why would the creator of the series up and leave just because of censorship issues on a console? Particularly in a country where gamers prefer mobile hardware over consoles.

The PS4 userbase is still bigger than the Switch userbase in Japan, but the Switch is about to surpass it. It's the PS4's sales rate that is considerably lower.

 

[thelastword]

This is 22 years old female in Japan

And this is teenager in US

Of course uneducated western "journalist" and SJW will find it look underage without care to understand the context.

Being petite does not mean you're a child, no one said this or believes this, perhaps some people can be fooled if they're not paying attention....Age is depicted more in the eyes, under the eyes, the skin, youthful expression and exuberance, more or less the wear and tear of their countenance and many other features......I looked at this asian female and saw right away that she is an adult......The Western girl looks much younger, more youthful and innocent in years....

 

[The Mad Draklor]

YongYea, who's one of the more neutral voices, has weighed in. You can tell that the fanservicey anime games are not his thing, but at the same time, he's not calling people who like that type of content pedophiles which is common from the censorship apologists.

He also finds Sony's reference to the #MeToo movement to be like linking school shootings to violent video games. And like many have said here, including me, it is up to the parents to teach their children what games are okay or not okay for them to play.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Being petite does not mean you're a child, no one said this or believes this, perhaps some people can be fooled if they're not paying attention....Age is depicted more in the eyes, under the eyes, the skin, youthful expression and exuberance, more or less the wear and tear of their countenance and many other features......I looked at this asian female and saw right away that she is an adult......The Western girl looks much younger, more youthful and innocent in years....

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

Being petite does not mean you're a child, no one said this or believes this, perhaps some people can be fooled if they're not paying attention....Age is depicted more in the eyes, under the eyes, the skin, youthful expression and exuberance, more or less the wear and tear of their countenance and many other features......I looked at this asian female and saw right away that she is an adult......The Western girl looks much younger, more youthful and innocent in years....

Its called sun exposure. Some individuals even above 30 years can be asked for ID if theyve protected themselves from the sun.

 

[MagnesG]

Being petite does not mean you're a child, no one said this or believes this, perhaps some people can be fooled if they're not paying attention....Age is depicted more in the eyes, under the eyes, the skin, youthful expression and exuberance, more or less the wear and tear of their countenance and many other features......I looked at this asian female and saw right away that she is an adult......The Western girl looks much younger, more youthful and innocent in years....

I have more examples coming... but I'm not gonna post it. I will say I've been fooled more than once though. There's a candid group photo of Japaneses in their classroom, more or less 10 of them. I suspect at least one or two are underages - girl group idols can have their trainees included, turns out all of them are 20 years above.

I believe you, knowing the age of the girls first helps making your judgment.

 

[MagnesG]

Lol, Sony is so pussy whipped. It was always the beta console anyways. I mean, look at prententious trash like Journey and Flower.

Sorry dp.

 

[The Chairman]

Sony just want to follow the american way and sexualize real minors instead of anime girls.

 

[TheDuskwalker]

Its called sun exposure. Some individuals even above 30 years can be asked for ID if theyve protected themselves from the sun.

I'm 32 yet still get ID'd nearly everytime I buy a M rated game.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

I'm still not understanding the rational argument against giving people choices in what's supposed to be a free country.

Are you a feminist and you absolutely fucking despise a game like Senran Kagura? Hey, that's your prerogative, but you don't get to then dictate that others can't play it because you personally don't like, the world does not revolve around you.

 

[Three]

I'm still not understanding the rational argument against giving people choices in what's supposed to be a free country.

Are you a feminist and you absolutely fucking despise a game like Senran Kagura? Hey, that's your prerogative, but you don't get to then dictate that others can't play it because you personally don't like, the world does not revolve around you.

It's not about freedom but the image of the type of thing a company or person wants to promote or sell. This is true of any company and directly influences who would be your customers.

You can't go into a magazine store or library and say why don't you sell or lend porn mags too because it's a free country and people can decide. The same with shovelware. As you said the world doesn't revolve around individuals. The people who might find that stuff unpleasant (which I assume may actually be the majority) will be less likely to shop there with confidence.

I completely understand that those who like that type of thing would be alienated but there are other places to find that sort of thing (just don't believe some with an agenda who are leading you to something where you will find none of that).

 

[Enygger_Tzu]

The people who might find that stuff unpleasant (which I assume may actually be the majority) will be less likely to shop there with confidence.

The majority are people who get offended by pixels?

 

[Gafmau5]

I just don’t get why Sony would choose to become so strict. I imagine hiring a team to censor games would cost more than just allowing them to be released as long as they follow the rating guidelines of the country it releases in. That’s the point of the ESRB and CERO. So big companies like Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft don’t have to worry about it.

 

[GreenAlien]

You can't go into a magazine store or library and say why don't you sell or lend porn mags too because it's a free country and people can decide. The same with shovelware. As you said the world doesn't revolve around individuals. The people who might find that stuff unpleasant (which I assume may actually be the majority) will be less likely to shop there with confidence.

But it's not about "porn". It's about sexual elements in games, not porn games. The kind you can find in every general magazine/book store and library in the west (well.. at least in europe... maybe the US are even stranger than I already think they are).

 

[MagnesG]

It's not about freedom but the image of the type of thing a company or person wants to promote or sell. This is true of any company and directly influences who would be your customers.

You can't go into a magazine store or library and say why don't you sell or lend porn mags too because it's a free country and people can decide. The same with shovelware. As you said the world doesn't revolve around individuals. The people who might find that stuff unpleasant (which I assume may actually be the majority) will be less likely to shop there with confidence.

I completely understand that those who like that type of thing would be alienated but there are other places to find that sort of thing (just don't believe some with an agenda who are leading you to something where you will find none of that).

Thing is, when that kind of games had been there since ages, you would question the company's straw policy when they suddenly start limiting purely based on ratings. Developers become anxious and beware, when their policy is so vague, as anything can become offensive at this point. Really shows what kind of confidence customers would get to invest in their store.

 

[Three]

The majority are people who get offended by pixels?

Advetising company in Enygger's neighbourhood:
Let's put up a billboard of 2 men having sex with their cocks out and a Gay pride flag on top. We know Enygger would love that considering he loves SJWs and homosexuality so much he can't stop talking about it being bad.

Most of the neighbourhood complains

Advertising company: why are you offended by it, it's just ink.

Get serious, 'it's just pixels'? Your arguments are all flawed.

 

[Three]

But it's not about "porn". It's about sexual elements in games, not porn games. The kind you can find in every general magazine/book store and library in the west (well.. at least in europe... maybe the US are even stranger than I already think they are).

It's about anything deemed inappropriate. Not any sexual element at all. There are still games with sex and nudity. Just ones where they think it seems inappropriate they have the right to reject selling.

The game mode in question is this that was not available in the west but was in Japan:

 

[TheDuskwalker]

It's about anything deemed inappropriate. Not any sexual element at all. There are still games with sex and nudity. Just ones where they think it seems inappropriate they have the right to reject selling.

The game mode in question is this that was not available in the west but was in Japan:

Fun Fact: That mode was actually in the Western version of the previous Senran Kagura on PS4 by the way. Also they turned it into a full game that was released on the Switch, even in the West.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

It's about anything deemed inappropriate.

By who and by what standard? Why should we take stock in this person and/or standard?

 

[majestix1988]

Fun Fact: That mode was actually in the Western version of the previous Senran Kagura on PS4 by the way. Also they turned it into a full game that was released on the Switch, even in the West.

+ has Producer left Marvelous "the Fanservice is part game itself without it the game its just ninja game"

 

[Hecaton117]

It's not about freedom but the image of the type of thing a company or person wants to promote or sell. This is true of any company and directly influences who would be your customers.

You can't go into a magazine store or library and say why don't you sell or lend porn mags too because it's a free country and people can decide. The same with shovelware. As you said the world doesn't revolve around individuals. The people who might find that stuff unpleasant (which I assume may actually be the majority) will be less likely to shop there with confidence.

I completely understand that those who like that type of thing would be alienated but there are other places to find that sort of thing (just don't believe some with an agenda who are leading you to something where you will find none of that).

I don't think this is a very good argument.

Has there ever been an example of someone or a large group of people who stopped buying PS4 games because fanservicey games exist? I don't think I've ever seen any before. Sony IIRC is the market leader amongst the 3 and has yet to suffer any kind of actual backlash that would threaten that position.

In the case there exists a person who would stop buying PS4 games because fanservicey games exist, do you honestly think their position would be changed by any of the examples that have been shown so far? From what we've seen so far, I have a hard time believing that the kind of person who would become so angry that they would stop buying Sony products would perceive any difference between the before and after comparisons of the games that have been affected.

I also don't think your comparison is valid here. A single magazine store is vastly different from a company that sells games in different countries. Your average consumer that purchases whatever AAA title is available that week does not know of or care about things like Senran Kagura.

We're talking about a vocal minority of people complaining on video game forums. The majority does not care about these games.

 

[majestix1988]

we accept it if the game itself has alteration on other versions but the game has changes only on PS4...this movement or Sony's Censorship mostly not good to use due it will lose more users or fans of the games who gonna play on PS4......

think of it this is our future on PS4 or their next damn console the PS5...we have censorship then the our version of this game on other consoles has not? can you accept it? its just SONY think of us as lowly imbecile or mostly likely doesnt know how to control "Children" but this excuse its just a DAMN EXCUSE to control our games to play on their console...

Dont forget they put a motto " This Is For The Players." on this current console.....now they trying to control their own space or own rules via this dumb censorship........yeah there is crossplay issues but the important one is the GAMES itself not morality or damn excuse "the children"

SO use damn brain not this talking about age of characters or this sexual acts but not actual sexual acts.....this issue is just Fanservice or Entice players to get their favorite character via physical means + adding their expressions or emotions

This is why nintendo control themselves after they destroyed SMT X FE(its not sell well due too much alteration) while its Xenoblade X Boob slider its just simple remove but still the game itself playable) sell okay than SMT X FE

 

[joe_zazen]

Hey, that's your prerogative, but you don't get to then dictate that others can't play it because you personally don't like, the world does not revolve around you.

You do if you are an American Sony Exec. Americans, and rich powerful Americans in particular, love commanding other, lesser people.

The only thing about this that gives me pause wrt Sony is how unprofessional SIE is now (no guidelines, no warnings, expecting JPN devs to converse in english in the middle of the night via skype), and how much disregard they have for the financial health of their partners. I thought the crossplay thing was overblown, but it does look like they are run by amateurs.

Pre ps4, Shuhei talked about a meeting they had where they discussed how a failure could mean the end of the division. It seems ludicrous now, but coming off the ps3 and the years of losses of Sony Corp., it was a real possibility. Given their attitudes and actions of late, I am thinking the argument that arrogant sony is back might not be wrong.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Sony's biggest market is the US, and HQ is now in California. Sony gamers in Japan has dropped off like a cliff compared to the PS1 and PS2 days. And aside from Gran Turismo, I don't think there are any big first party games from Japan anymore.

So it's a 100% USA focused company.

And what you get with US focus, is the US view of sex + kids = bad. So that stuff gets cracked down. In Japan they don't care. People tolerate kiddie sim games, panty sniffing vending machines, and anime dating simulators. And like that game above, grab some kiddie tits and ass with double hand icons. Honk honk!

It would be a lot different if Japanese studios churned out more influencial games, and a lot more gamers in Japan play consoles. Whereas console sales are still strong in other countries, some reason Japanese gamers all shifted to mobile. Japan influence drops like a rock, so HQ moves to west coast USA.

So what you get now is west coast USA thinking.

 

[ph33rknot]

I've never seen a minor (your word, not mine) being so developed, have you?

i have

 

[Sqorin Hammerfarf]

So what you get now is west coast USA thinking.

The word "thinking" may be giving them more credit than they deserve.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

My God.

Please atlus Say that Catherine full body will come to Nintendo Switch to cancel the Limited edition of PS4 and choose the Switch Version.

 

[Link1110]

The most interesting part is that Sony always cultivated the image of freedom from Nintendo's censorship. Bringing over all the games Nintendo would've never taken a second look at was such a huge part of their strategy in the PS1 days. I guess they're the ones on top now so they don't need that.

 

[Three]

Fun Fact: That mode was actually in the Western version of the previous Senran Kagura on PS4 by the way. Also they turned it into a full game that was released on the Switch, even in the West.

Fully aware of that.

I don't think this is a very good argument.

Has there ever been an example of someone or a large group of people who stopped buying PS4 games because fanservicey games exist? I don't think I've ever seen any before. Sony IIRC is the market leader amongst the 3 and has yet to suffer any kind of actual backlash that would threaten that position.

In the case there exists a person who would stop buying PS4 games because fanservicey games exist, do you honestly think their position would be changed by any of the examples that have been shown so far? From what we've seen so far, I have a hard time believing that the kind of person who would become so angry that they would stop buying Sony products would perceive any difference between the before and after comparisons of the games that have been affected.

I also don't think your comparison is valid here. A single magazine store is vastly different from a company that sells games in different countries. Your average consumer that purchases whatever AAA title is available that week does not know of or care about things like Senran Kagura.

We're talking about a vocal minority of people complaining on video game forums. The majority does not care about these games.

Not documented, only complaints data would show that. It's not so much stop buying PS4 games because fanservices games exist but some mom being exposed to this or articles and deciding I'm not buying that brand or product now/again. The cultural differences don't help either. The idea of a cartoon with boobs with women in school uniforms you can play with is hard to explain to the general population outside Japan even though it may make perfect sense to you and I. To the general public it will be why does this cartoon game I bought have these disgusting things in it and they can't say why didn't you do your research and be a better parent.

By who and by what standard? Why should we take stock in this person and/or standard?

By the company and their research as to what the general public deems comfortable. Just like what is aired, for better or worse you have to take stock. This isn't something new. The same is true for Apple, MS, Google, and almost every big retailer in existence.

 

[TheDuskwalker]

The most interesting part is that Sony always cultivated the image of freedom from Nintendo's censorship. Bringing over all the games Nintendo would've never taken a second look at was such a huge part of their strategy in the PS1 days. I guess they're the ones on top now so they don't need that.

Actually they've regularly had someone who was pushing anti-developer/publisher policies as well. Already posted twice in this thread, but here's a history lesson of this stuff.


He forgot the Mega Man 8 stuff in his there anti-2D talk, that was extra dickish too.

 

[Barakov]

The most interesting part is that Sony always cultivated the image of freedom from Nintendo's censorship. Bringing over all the games Nintendo would've never taken a second look at was such a huge part of their strategy in the PS1 days. I guess they're the ones on top now so they don't need that.

It's kinda crazy how big of a role reversal there's been between Sony and Nintendo. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see Dragon Quest XII and FF XVI come out exclusively on Switch.

 

[Hecaton117]

Not documented, only complaints data would show that. It's not so much stop buying PS4 games because fanservices games exist but some mom being exposed to this or articles and deciding I'm not buying that brand or product now/again. The cultural differences don't help either. The idea of a cartoon with boobs with women in school uniforms you can play with is hard to explain to the general population outside Japan even though it may make perfect sense to you and I. To the general public it will be why does this cartoon game I bought have these disgusting things in it and they can't say why didn't you do your research and be a better parent.

My point is that anyone who would object in such a way to any game that's been affected by this policy isn't going to react any differently between the before/after versions.

If anything this whole situation has given these games more exposure than they would have had otherwise. A bunch of these games (other than DMC5) were unknown to me until I started hearing about them whenever this issue was brought up.

 

[Senhua]

It's about anything deemed inappropriate. Not any sexual element at all. There are still games with sex and nudity. Just ones where they think it seems inappropriate they have the right to reject selling.

The game mode in question is this that was not available in the west but was in Japan:

Then maybe Sony need to quit being a hypocrite because I don't find the same treatment been done to western games. Metro exodus, RDR2, Yakuza series all have sex and nudity inside it , why not they too? not Anime enough?

 

[Enygger_Tzu]

Advetising company in Enygger's neighbourhood:
Let's put up a billboard of 2 men having sex with their cocks out and a Gay pride flag on top. We know Enygger would love that considering he loves SJWs and homosexuality so much he can't stop talking about it being bad.

Most of the neighbourhood complains

Advertising company: why are you offended by it, it's just ink.

Get serious, 'it's just pixels'? Your arguments are all flawed.

So which game of what Sony censors has porn in it?

Also will Sony censor their own pornographic 14-year old girls kissing from their own franchise or not?

 

[spandexmonkey]

I'm glad Sony is removing sexual content, keep my pearls from being clutched. It's about presenting a mature and respectful set of core values.

Also, don't miss the final season of Game of Thrones!

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[Three]

So which game of what Sony censors has porn in it?

Also will Sony censor their own pornographic 14-year old girls kissing from their own franchise or not?

Softcore, yeah I actually do think some are. Even if we were to assume none, you are being obtuse and missing the point as usual. It was about those who may find particular types of content unpleasant and you trying to pass them of as just pixels. Actual porn is also just pixels or ink. Now you've moved on to some other shit.