megreotsugua
Banned
You can bet UE5 will be more optimized on PS5 especially considering Sony also invested in Epic.
Exciting times ahead for PS5 players.
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Sony cross-play documents with Epic/Dev's
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You can bet UE5 will be more optimized on PS5 especially considering Sony also invested in Epic.
Exciting times ahead for PS5 players.
Derktron
Banned
Yeah I don’t understand why anyone would give a fuck about this.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Thats either a Sony thing, or perhaps a digital platform thing if Steam, MS, Apple do it too but we dont know about it.
Does anyone know if other digital marketplaces try to force counter payment subsidies if they think other platforms are gaining ground?
Kilau
Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Console or brand of choice > publisher > developer > retailer > principals > breath
Such a dumb take. Imagine if iOS games/apps couldn't play/communicate with Android games/apps.
Azurro
Banned
Wow lmao
‘Epic goes out of its way to make Sony look like heroes’
and
‘not a single one can explain how cross-console play improves the PlayStation business’
are the two highlights for methe ‘for the payers’ meme based on Sony’s apparent attitude to their own consumer base seem pretty accurate.
It's true though, it's not like PS users don't have a big enough userbase to play with, this is mostly a benefit for Xbox gamers that have a much smaller pool of players.
why do consumers care so much about multibillion dollar companies whom make alot of profit?
listening to tim sweeney at the moment, i don't think i can justify staying up all night for this case.
yazenov
Member
Jim should be fired if Sony left money on the table just to be labeled good guy Jimbo on the internet for the players.
I mean no shit Sony should charge others to have access to the huge Playstation user base. They are running a business after all. It's not a charity.
Cross play benefits the completion more than it benefits Sony given the huge disparity in user base. I mean, most of the people calling for cross play were non ps owners anyways, the vocal minority.
I mean no shit Sony should charge others to have access to the huge Playstation user base. They are running a business after all. It's not a charity.
Cross play benefits the completion more than it benefits Sony given the huge disparity in user base. I mean, most of the people calling for cross play were non ps owners anyways, the vocal minority.
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Azurro
Banned
Of those friends, most of them are much more likely to have a PS rather than an Xbox. If the one that got an Xbox wants to play with his friends that own Playstations, then this person should get a PS, simple.
Zombie9ers
Member
Every time Tom Warren speaks I imaging the aroma of Phil Spencer's balls permeate from his mouth.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Nice search barPathetic keep crying tho
yazenov
Member
Im a Playstation owner with access to the largest and most populated user base. Why should I care for non ps users? Om having no trouble playing any game online and find lots of players to play with. Reminder me why should I care?
This is such a reductive and simplistic POV that especially doesn't make sense when every other platform at the time (wrt Fortnite) was allowing cross play.
If a group of friends had PC and Xbox and Nintendo all playing together, I'd imagine the PS player would want Sony to let them play. Not being like "hey sorry, PlayStation is too big. How about all of you just buy a PlayStation. Simple."
Putonahappyface
Member
you have to pay to chill with us
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reinking
Gold Member
In that case...
F'k Phil, Jim, Tim, Tim, Micro$oft ($ because f'em), Sony, Apple, Epic, Game$top, Best Buy, Walmart, money-hatting, dev buying, deal making, exclusivity.... ...breath... ..and mostly fuck Tom Warren and all of the other "news" media that constantly stir the pot.
..also Nintendo because I know I am going to end up buying yet another Switch because of their stupid "upgrade" in the fall.
..also, if anyone takes this serious. F you too.
now I feel better.
Umbasaborne
Banned
Lmao i guess scumbag sony is back in full swing, hopefully they will get some humbleness knocked back into them like microsoft did after their bullshit
Sony if you care about the consumer, Tim Sweeney if you're a corporate fanboy who likes arguing against your own self interest.
It's called empathy, I played cyberpunk on pc with no problems but I still care about console players whom had a shit experience. There is no factual reason why you have to care about anyone other than yourself.
Azurro
Banned
That situation is very unlikely and iirc, this was about cross play with Xbox and Nintendo, while most of the userbase is on PS and PC (which were already cross play, although my memory is not the best).
It's not reductionist, it's the truth, the only ones that benefit are the smaller platforms with the smallest userbases. So yeah, get a PlayStation.
Jaysen
Banned
This is a horrible take.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
to play with friends on other platforms? guessing thats not a problem for you tho since you would need friends for that.
Azurro
Banned
Mmmm...you do know this is what companies do, right? Compete? You think they all hold hands and sing cumbaya? MS bought Bethesda which is a way bigger scumbag move than this, and yet it seems you are completely fine with that.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Play has no limits unless 85%
The week has just started and it is already a shitshow
The week has just started and it is already a shitshow
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
sainraja
Member
Yeah, Sony should have allowed cross play but I can see why they would hesitate (still doesn't justify it), they had a larger player-base. People forget but Microsoft did the same during the X360 gen with cross play with the PC and I believe the PS3 (but MS had the advantage during that time.)If you’re good at something never do it for free.
That sums up Sony’s position here.
But Epic were right in the end - cross play is a thing. I don’t know if anyone can say if it hurt or helped the PlayStation business though.
But in the end of the end Sony ended up buying a stake of EpicWhere will that relationship end up?
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yazenov
Member
Im sorry I don't care for some unknown faceless dudes over the internet who whines about cross play instead of getting the system they want access to..
With regards to Cyberpunk, they should have read some reviews before getting the game. And they could always geta refund
sainraja
Member
A lot of them are playing console wars which is why they crave anything that allows them to continue to do that.
xiskza
Member
Crossplay Controversy Shifts to Sony Being Only Company to Enforce Clause
Interesting clause sheds light on Sony's approach
www.pushsquare.com
the cyberpunk is an example but you ignore the point if you want.
ethomaz
Banned
Yeap... it is a case if the cross-play revenue in Sony platform is lower than the people that play the games here they need to get more money.Crossplay Controversy Shifts to Sony Being Only Company to Enforce Clause
Interesting clause sheds light on Sony's approach
I told that before... cross-play opens a hell gate where you can have the userbase on your platform but you lose the 30% share from the goods sales.
I even point that no company at time have a clear vision how to fix that issue with Cross-play.
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Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
Sony and Epic in a tree K.I.S.S.I.N.G.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Why’s that?
Look at FIFA for example. In 2018, out of 13 million sales or so, 10 were on PlayStation. But according to you Sony should run a charity and help out Xbox. Hilarious.
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The Alien
Banned
Just like Epic said..."the longer it drags out"
ethomaz
Banned
Here I pointed that issue in 2017.
www.neogaf.com
Microsoft (Aaron Greenberg) confirms they're in talks with Sony about crossplay
Hold your ground, Sony Hahahaha.
Banjo64
cumsessed
No, it’s mostly a benefit to any customer who owns one system and has a friend who owns another. Or who wants to be able to play a game on the couch on their PS4 and then go to bed and play a few games on their Switch before bed.
And it’s hilarious to note that the people ITT screaming ‘console warriors’ are actually the biggest culprits themselves.
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ethomaz
Banned
If you buy the DLC or MTX in another platform and want to use it on Sony's platform... yeap Epic needs to share something with Sony.
The cross-play business is very very unfair.
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Thirty7ven
Banned
But if that user mostly plays on PlayStation and then spends his money on eshop, why should Sony be ok with this?
This is just more “Sony is bad because they are not a charity” BS
I see this differently, i will take a real example, i play every day with friends warzone, we have 2 on Xbox, 1 on PS and others on PC, it's about the game not userbase, machine or ecosystem are you playing on, i would love to see cross play on many others games like FIFA, PES ....
abel empire
Banned
As a gamer ive alwas wanted cross platform like i want to play fifa with my bro who owns a xbox, but i guess business will always make that impossible. You always have to chose a console depending on what exclusives it has and what your friends are playing on. But crossplay would have massively made gamers happy and crossplatform devs more money but could also make both sony and ms more money but theres a strong belief that one of them would lose more and thats sony because itll basically make people have less reasons to get a playstation if they can have xbox and still play with their playstation friends. Itll clearly boost xbox sales theoretically so unless sony is greedy and favours microsoft with crossplay, then the deal womt happen but its a nice try from epic i bet they where the middle man sent by ms to lure sony in signing that deal.
I have to say tencent's epic aquisition has made them more powerful.
I have to say tencent's epic aquisition has made them more powerful.
FranXico
Member
Truth
ethomaz
Banned
It is not about people not buying a console due Crossplay but about the user using his MTX, DLCs, etc but only one platform will receive the cut from the purchase.
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yazenov
Member
I mean, realistically speaking, how many people will actually benefit and fall into this scenario you just gave as an example ? Im guessing not many people.
It reminds me of backwards compatibility. Vocal minority wants it but not many people are use it.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. Sony exec was a 100% right. What's in it for them? MS and Nintendo with their shitty userbases get to benefit from crossplay the most. MS was actually charging XBL Gold to play F2P games like Fortnite until just last week. So they were making money off F2P games in ways Sony wasn't while Sony was sharing their userbase with them. Userbase they spent billions to cultivate.
Epic countered with a bunch of perks to sweeten the deal which makes sense. This is just business. Xbox has a very engaged userbase who play a lot games, and invest a lot of money into their eco system. I highly doubt a F2P game like Fortnite needed the PS userbase on xbox. But Nintendo? They needed the PS users to keep those servers filling up every few seconds. Shouldn't Sony get a cut of the profits from switch for making sure they have enough players to actually play this game without waiting in the lobby for 10-15 minute after every death?
I really dont see this as evil Sony. It's actually the one thing I agree with jimbo on. It's insane to think that a platform holder would spend and lose billions on building an eco system only to give free access to that userbase.
Epic countered with a bunch of perks to sweeten the deal which makes sense. This is just business. Xbox has a very engaged userbase who play a lot games, and invest a lot of money into their eco system. I highly doubt a F2P game like Fortnite needed the PS userbase on xbox. But Nintendo? They needed the PS users to keep those servers filling up every few seconds. Shouldn't Sony get a cut of the profits from switch for making sure they have enough players to actually play this game without waiting in the lobby for 10-15 minute after every death?
I really dont see this as evil Sony. It's actually the one thing I agree with jimbo on. It's insane to think that a platform holder would spend and lose billions on building an eco system only to give free access to that userbase.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Imagine if iOS games/apps couldn't use alternative payment methods.