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No way a multinational corporations did this. The fuck going to this world?Wtf. This can’t be real
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No way a multinational corporations did this. The fuck going to this world?Wtf. This can’t be real
That wasn't specifically for this scenario (crossplay). I was talking more in the general sense.How would the ability to choose what platform you can buy your vbucks, the ability to use all of your outfits across all platforms and play with your cousin who owns an Xbox/Switch/PC fuck you over as a customer?
Stop derailing the thread. It doesnt matter who posted the info. Its come from the court case.He deleted all the twitter about the 9TF if I'm not wrong. Anyway I moderate the tone of my post but people like him literally destroy my nerves. I'd like to know where are all those ps5 journalist who acts like him because the Xbox front seems infested of such childish people. Thanks to God Spencer hate fanboy I guess just when they are Sony fanboy
True.
I don't know why there is always an expectation from Sony to *uck over their own customers and business and profitability and act as a charitable organization to support other businesses, including its own competitors.
Already responded to BanjoExplain how crossplay means fuck their userbase.
Why you quote me then if you won't "derail" in such argument? Ok I stay in. I'm disgusted. Fuck Sony. They are the new reincarnation of the evil. Probably Jim Ryan is the antichrist. No way MS would do this.Stop derailing the thread. It doesnt matter who posted the info. Its come from the court case.
Congrats for becoming an attorneyLet me try looking at it.
OH MY GOD, IT WORKS. I CAN SEE IT.
How much you want for it?Thats it Im selling my PS5 in protest. I can't stomach this no more.
Theres something wrong when you see it as a platform winning, instead of the userbase on both places. Yes ps has the bigger networks of the two, but friends can have different platforms and we're not able to play together before.Why wouldn’t Sony ask for something in return, it’s their platform, their userbase. This would help Xbox mostly.
Theres something wrong when you see it as a platform winning, instead of the userbase on both places. Yes ps has the bigger networks of the two, but friends can have different platforms and we're not able to play together before.
And Sony wanted those two friends to not keeping to play together, unless one of them bought a PlayStation.
Lies about what exactly? What it has to do UE5 with this? Now I'm ready for the worst.Also sth else interesting for those that believed Sony’s/epic lies on unreal engine 5 and other stuff.
But why did they change their mind?Shits not a charity. Closed ecosystems. You can take your “it’s good for us” and put it in the same place where you can find “why aren’t there competing stores on Xbox/PlayStation? Why isn’t Gamepass on PlayStation and PSNow on Xbox” etc etc etc
Shits business. PlayStation garnered the biggest userbase, and by default has nothing to gain from helping other platforms prop up their numbers.
unless one of them bought a PlayStation.
But why did they change their mind?
I don't give a fuck about behind closed doors business deals.
I play games.
They are trying to convince the platform with the most Fornite players to allow Fornite to connect with the other tens of millions of Fornite players. The reason Epic wants that is so that players are more connected despite their platform and are able to play with their friends, get more into the game and in turn hopefully engage into more microtransactions, merchandise, etc. Sony has something to lose in this situation and Epic needs to make a deal/case so that Sony is wiling to change their mind. They even say it themselves in the first image that they haven't heard a good reason on how it helps them to open cross-play.I'd love to know the reason why Epic is so in bed with Sony.
The answer on the second image in the first thread is embarrassing from a business standpoint. I'd think that being a multiplatform company you'd want to be as neutral as possible but that email screams anything but that.
And about the revenue share, WTF.
The thing that we are getting with that Epic lawsuit is that we shouldn't root for any company at all. They only want their money and even when they say "4 the players" they don't want something as good for them as crossplay. It's really crazy
Who is this Tom and to who he works for? lol Sounds fishy as hell, since we can't compare this to anything else. How other companies do this, for instance? Is that standard practice? Anyone have documents showing how it works for MS or Nintendo? Really curious to know.
Smash it into pieces. Selling it isn't justice enoughThats it Im selling my PS5 in protest. I can't stomach this no more.
Sounds shady if true. But at the same time I can’t stand Tom Warren.
He’s like a collection of the top 5 usual suspect Xbox trolls on gaf rolled into one. Usually peddling lies and fud.
Can't tell who's more evil EPIC or Sony, Sweeney or Jim Ryan?!
In regards to wanting what's good for players. There's a limit. If Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo really wanted to just to do everything that was best for consumer they wouldn't be releasing game exclusively to their platforms. Restaurants would be giving away recipes because it'd be great if everyone could try such great tasting food. People would be giving away patents. They are businesses, who will only do what's good for consumers to a certain extent if it helps their business. It's not too crazy.
That’s such an audacious, and outrageous request, I can’t believe Epic or any other company would be willing to submit. They are not asking for a summary to be provided, they are asking to have access to the source data. Fucking weird man.OK Sony. lol.
Never knew Sony has a side business being KPMG or Deloitte.
Something tells me most bitching and moaning, are not the one's who care or own Sony (PS) products.The usual bitches are in here screaming already. Surprise corporations exist to sell you a product. They don’t exist out of good faith, and to give shit away for free.
They’ll do whatever it takes to get special deals and bonuses for their customers, especially if they are the top company in the space of entertainment that they reside in.
Now let’s see who will speak with their wallets and stop purchasing Sony products. So that they can “Stick it to them.” Or just continue to bitch and moan about how evil they are while buying Sony shit.
It's a request some retailers ask suppliers (us) to tell. And it's a ploy to get details so they can adjust their store brand prices or use it to compare against other suppliers. The higher costs you have and lower profits, it shows the retailer they have a position of strength to bully you because they know you're desperate for sales. And for gaming, a platform holder knowing your platform split can use it against you.That’s such an audacious, and outrageous request, I can’t believe Epic or any other company would be willing to submit. They are not asking for a summary to be provided, they are asking to have access to the source data. Fucking weird man.
Sounds like only one of us wants to bend over and take it like a bitch from a corporationThe usual bitches are in here screaming already. Surprise corporations exist to sell you a product. They don’t exist out of good faith, and to give shit away for free.
They’ll do whatever it takes to get special deals and bonuses for their customers, especially if they are the top company in the space of entertainment that they reside in.
Now let’s see who will speak with their wallets and stop purchasing Sony products. So that they can “Stick it to them.” Or just continue to bitch and moan about how evil they are while buying Sony shit.
I was trying to remember if there was another dev that accidentally turned on cross play. Only can see the war thunder devs complaining but think there was another.Think about the developers that dont have fortnite as leverage
They did that with UE4 and the PS4 and that pre-dates all this shit. So no, it doesn't.all the UE5 demo talk/hype makes more sense now.
Pathetic keep crying thoSounds like only one of us wants to bend over and take it like a bitch from a corporation
These clowns are gonna come on here and bitch, then go continue support other corporations that probably have similar agreements to this. That they have no knowledge about. There’s already a Hollerith dog hit by my precious post.Something tells me most bitching and moaning, are not the one's who care or own Sony (PS) products.