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Devices (the image sensor division) gone from -¥12B loss in FY13 to ¥93B profit in FY14.
Second most profitable division now. Dat iPhone 6 effect.
Devices (the image sensor division) gone from -¥12B loss in FY13 to ¥93B profit in FY14.
Not a great quarter for PS, to be honest, even if we consider the PS4s japanese launch was in the same quarter last year then that still doesn't make this YoY drop anything more than, kind of disappointing. I'm assuming The Order and the Vita can be blamed for the operating loss this quarter.
PS4 sales are expected to increase (interesting that no PS3 or handheld forecast is given) but revenue and operating profit are expected to be flat/slightly down, which the drop in PS3 sales and unfavourable exchange rates are blamed for. Now to be optimistic one could say that Sony adjusted last years PS forecast up a couple times and still beat it, so these results could end up a lot better, but for that to happen I'd say that a price cut and at least one software heavy hitter is needed. OI margin forecasts are still low, probably due to the Vita and just certain 1st party/Sony published titles bombing which unfortunately is par for the course for Sony, I'm sure everyone already has quite a few Sony titles that they expect to flop this year, I know I do.
Overall I think better results for the division are possible it's just a matter of Sony taking the opportunities.
Oh and that article that counted stronger than expected PS4 sales as a reason for the OI forecast revision seems to have been completely bullshitting.
I don't think it is that obvious, but anyway my point still remains.
Even if the gen is shorter. The PS4 would have to drop dead like the Wii to remotely stay in the vicinity of the PS3 sales, which is not going to happen.
I still don't understand how you say the Order was a driving factor for a loss in the division or Sony (which you have not specified). Sure it probably didn't sell amazingly well worldwide but to hang such a noose around it's neck is crazy.
The Vita is a much larger culprit at a $92m write off going by today's ExR.
For the FY2014 Q4 (Jan-Mar 2015) - One year after launch?
Yes
As usual, Dualshockers is the only site that goes into more details in regards to stuff that's brought up outside of the released reports, such as the Japanese conference calls.
The site's banned here (but not for inaccurate reporting, so the news-bits there are accurate), but you all can go have a look at some of the articles there for some broader context of the stuff here. Here's a quote from one of the articles.
Great to hear they're investing in the Vita.During Sony's financial conference call for Japanese investors and analysts, Chief Financial Officer Kenichiro Yoshida explained that the slightly lower operating income forecast for the Game & Network Services segment for fiscal year 2015 compared to fiscal year 2014 is partly due to the intention to “aggressively invest” in the business.
Is Saudi considered a developing nation? going by the price differential for the PS3/4 in India,China and Brazil I think it can still be pretty big
If it does a PS3 and drops off fast after a ps5 releases like ps3 did after ps4, then it'll be pretty close.
I can guarantee you the next console gen will happen sooner than you think, and won't be about 4K gaming (even if it'll obviously support 4K video playback). If next gen can't even do 1080p with a stable framerate, then what's the point?
As some said higher, however, it doesn't mean this gen won't still be supported and sell in some markets, like this happened with the previous gen.
I guess with PS.Now they feel this is viable.They have no forecast for PS3 next year, does that mean it's effectively discontinued already?
They have no forecast for PS3 next year, does that mean it's effectively discontinued already?
I can guarantee you the next console gen will happen sooner than you think, and won't be about 4K gaming (even if it'll obviously support 4K video playback). If next gen can't even do 1080p with a stable framerate, then what's the point?
As some said higher, however, it doesn't mean this gen won't still be supported and sell in some markets, like this happened with the previous gen.
Do you think we'll see PS4 Slims? Normally towards the end of each consoles lifecycle there are remodels usually for the sole purpose of being cheaper to produce while they work on and ship their next console.
Do they skip that step this time?
Don't yell at me, I've just copy/pasted their tweetBiggest revenue driver, not biggest earner.
I'll bite:Who knew the key to victory this generation basically came down to dissing Microsoft at E3 and re-releasing a bunch of old games.
I've owned a PS4 since launch.
They have no forecast for PS3 next year, does that mean it's effectively discontinued already?
Who knew the key to victory this generation basically came down to dissing Microsoft at E3 and re-releasing a bunch of old games.
I've owned a PS4 since launch.
As usual, Dualshockers is the only site that goes into more details in regards to stuff that's brought up outside of the released reports, such as the Japanese conference calls.
The site's banned here (but not for inaccurate reporting, so the news-bits there are accurate), but you all can go have a look at some of the articles there for some broader context of the stuff here. Here's a quote from one of the articles.
It will happen, question is when. Could see a 14/20nm version happening next year.
If the Order didn't profit then it definitely attributed to the loss, makes sense doesn't it? I mean it may have come off as if I meant that it was a huge driving factor, which was not my intention but it definitely attributed to it.
They don't have forecast for portables either.
Where is my BUZZ! game for the PS4? -_-
Source: Banned site for believing in the fake E3 list.Sony announced with a press release that the company is going to discontinue all operations at the Japanese Sony Semiconductor Oita Technology Center (A.K.A. Oita TEC), based in Kunisaki, Oita Prefecture.
Oita TEC, formerly a production site for memory packaging, recently focused on the production of advanced packaging (basically the external parts) for chips used on Sonys PlayStation Consoles. The plant was known to be involved in the production of the packaging of the Cell and RSX chips for the PS3.
...The closure of the plant is scheduled to be completed by the end of March 2016.
Luckily, the factorys 220 employees wont lose their jobs, but will be transfered to other plants producing image sensors or to other Sony Semiconductor Corporation sites that will take over some of Oita TECs operations.
depends on what xbox has exclusive wise, sony's have been few and far between and some of them just havent been good,Sony may lose this holidays npd sales again this year due to a weak line up again
meh maybe your right maybe your not it depends on who is buying the system and if they have been doing their homework on the hardware. However how does sony compete with a halo game during the holiday? It doesn't
A small criticism on my part is that DC last jump should be to 9.13M ;-)I have an old chart with other consoles if anyone wants to look, though: http://sites.google.com/site/japanltdrank//site/japanltdrank/blog/worldwideconsoleshipments
Devices (the image sensor division) gone from -¥12B loss in FY13 to ¥93B profit in FY14.
Second most profitable division now. Dat iPhone 6 effect.
The company plans to invest in expanding users figures by increasing the installed base of PS4 by as many units as possible, and then increasing the subscribers of PlayStation Plus further.
In addition to that, Sony will invest in first party software development, original entertainment content and PS Vue. Further investment will go into developing new hardware like Project Morpheus.
Later in the presentation, Yoshida-san explained that among the investment to increase the number of subscribers, to expand content and services and in new hardware there are some projects to be announced from now on.
No indication was provided about what those projects could be, but thats certainly intriguing.
I suppose you are referring to Road chart, well that's because Wii is currently the fastest selling console out of the gate.People always talk about Wii as this incomparable sales force but when its all said and done it was just "successful" console with "good" sales nothing exceptional at all. There was some factors that helped Wii initial success:
Wii sales dropped considerably after 2010.After people got sick of motion controls, Wii sales dropped like a fallen rock.
I'm being an armchair analyst right now, but I'm not sure if agressively investing in PlayStation is a good idea. It depends on what they'll do specifically, but it seems like it's mostly PlayStation network services like PS Now. Not sure about the potential for long-term commercial viability for that.
There have been multiple publishers and devs who stated they think this generation will be allot shorter than last gen.
How long do you think the cycle will be and what do you think the wow factor that sells the next gen consoles will be?
I can see Nintendo getting something else out by 2017 but I doubt it will be much more powerful than the PS4 so not really a game changer in that regard. I do not see VR being a big enough wow factor to sell a console and as I have stated the hardware required to do VR really well is similar to the hardware required to do 4k well so I really do not see it being that short.
If the 14nm to 10nm transition goes smoothly I can see 2019 happening but it really depends on the foundries getting on top of the node shrinks. If we have a nother 20nm fiasco it could be a lot later.
Do you think we'll see PS4 Slims? Normally towards the end of each consoles lifecycle there are remodels usually for the sole purpose of being cheaper to produce while they work on and ship their next console.
Do they skip that step this time?
I think it just means its so low that its not even worth mentioning.They have no forecast for PS3 next year, does that mean it's effectively discontinued already?
Sony didn't lose last holiday NPD due to "weak line-up". They lost due to aggressive Microsoft price cuts and bundles.depends on what xbox has exclusive wise, sony's have been few and far between and some of them just havent been good,Sony may lose this holidays npd sales again this year due to a weak line up again
meh maybe your right maybe your not it depends on who is buying the system and if they have been doing their homework on the hardware. However how does sony compete with a halo game during the holiday? It doesn't
I'm being an armchair analyst right now, but I'm not sure if agressively investing in PlayStation is a good idea. It depends on what they'll do specifically, but it seems like it's mostly PlayStation network services like PS Now. Not sure about the potential for long-term commercial viability for that.
Biggest revenue driver, not biggest earner.
That's is assuming Xbox One YOY was flat.Well, PS4 2.4 mil. vs. Xbone 1.2 mil. 2:1 ratio.
I never understand why people think the PS4 will end up selling worse than the PS3. If we look at the rate the PS4 is selling, there is no way the sold through numbers would be anything less than 100 million. I'm predicting 120 million at the end of 2020 myself.I have it pegged as:
PS4: ~80m -85m
XB1: ~40m
Wii U: ~10m
Vita: ~10m
3DS: ~60m
Lol - consider the shambles that implies MS were in if they couldn't handle a few re-masters and a bit of fun poking on game sharing.Who knew the key to victory this generation basically came down to dissing Microsoft at E3 and re-releasing a bunch of old games.
I've owned a PS4 since launch.
Yes, at the end of FY13, PS3 LTD was lower than 84M:
PS3: 84M *2 *5 (the actual LTD is lower since 80M include part of FY 13 Q3 shipment, see source *2)
*2:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...ach-80-million-units-worldwide-230771611.html
*5
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/hardware_sale_e.html
That would mean PS3 LTD as March 2015 is at most 87M.
That's is assuming Xbox One YOY was flat.
Maybe they read your post about how you didn't understand why they made anything but shooters.I don't like seeing the game division cash cowed. It's obvious that crazy experimental PS3 Sony has become Microsoft-ish in some ways. They've consolidated studios and are relying far more on tent pole releases. I guess I blame last gen where they got the shit kicked out of them financially. Still, they make some great games...but have to feel for things like Afrika and Tokyo Jungle that will probably never happen again.
It's a distant second place
Gran Turismo: 70M
Ratchet & Clank: 26M
God of War: 21M
SingStar: 20M
Uncharted: 17M
Everybody's Golf: 7,5M
Buzz !: 6M