plasmawave
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Nintendo is also about their bottom line like Sony.And?....
Nintendo is also about their bottom line like Sony.And?....
When we've dabbled with backwards compatibility, I can say it is one of those features that is much requested, but not actually used much. That, and I was at a Gran Turismo event recently where they had PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 games, and the PS1 and the PS2 games, they looked ancient, like why would anybody play this?
Sony doesn't care about consumers. They just want more profit.
That's why they're trying to make you pay again for games you already own.
When Japan was in control they cared about making Playstation run games from older generations.
Now that California is in charge all they care is about profit and their sjw agenda.
Did he really say that? Spoken like a true gamer..Why the PS5 doesn't via emulation play PS1-3 is beyond me.
It's really weird because when the PS2 came out and was backwards compatible we viewed that as a great strength of PlayStation. I was a Nintendo kid and wished I could play all the games on one system.
Jim Ryan did say this:
Sony are weird. Glad to be able to play my ps1 copy of Doom on my phone though.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the next PlayStation won’t let you play PS4 games. It seems they just wanna make big AAA movie games.
Why the PS5 doesn't via emulation play PS1-3 is beyond me.
It's really weird because when the PS2 came out and was backwards compatible we viewed that as a great strength of PlayStation. I was a Nintendo kid and wished I could play all the games on one system.
Then they got forced to cut B/C from PS3 in order to reduce costs and hardware sales went up, showing that it simply wasn't a sales driver of any significance, although that may have been affected substantially by them shifting millions of PS2's post PS3 launch.
With PS3 B/C on PS4 being a technical nightmare due to the complexity of its internals, Sony remastered pretty much all its top-selling self-owned IP on PS4, and of course these have essentially replaced the originals for consideration.
That’s all I ask, it’s not like they don’t have the software to do so, they just rather sell you PS NOW or resell the games on the PSN store even though you brought them on the PS3.I for one like the Sony of the PS1 and PS2 era much more and I think it's a shame there is no official way to play a lot of their classics.
PS5 with emulation would be GOAT, I don't care what anyone says. Just imagine something like Xbox enhanced BC on the PS5. Put in a classic like Legend of Dragon or Wipeout 3 and you can immediately download an enhanced emulated version of the game with HD resolution and upped framerate. I'd absolutely love that.
Yeah, I’m still pissed at how they handled Virtual Console from Wii U and forward. I had over 100 Wii VC games, it was awesome and I wanted to support it any way I could. Then they made them playable through Wii mode on WiiU, bought a bunch of upgraded titles for specifically for WiiU. Still pretty awesome. But then they just killed the service and started trying to drip feed us through Nintendo Online instead...The author seems to have his heart in the right place, although some of the comparisons they make are completely off the rails. Take this nugget:
So, the author is advocating that Sony go ahead and completely abandon their old systems' online stores, and then repackage a small selection of those games for current systems and resell them again? Because that's exactly what Nintendo has done over the last few years.
I agree that Sony should keep the old systems' legacies alive, but that is definitely not the way to do it.
Yeah, I’m still pissed at how they handled Virtual Console from Wii U and forward. I had over 100 Wii VC games, it was awesome and I wanted to support it any way I could. Then they made them playable through Wii mode on WiiU, bought a bunch of upgraded titles for specifically for WiiU. Still pretty awesome. But then they just killed the service and started trying to drip feed us through Nintendo Online instead...
If lots of people cared about BC for older consoles then Sony would do it. There's not enough gamers who care about thisSony doesn't care about consumers. They just want more profit.
That's why they're trying to make you pay again for games you already own.
When Japan was in control they cared about making Playstation run games from older generations.
Now that California is in charge all they care is about profit and their sjw agenda.
LMFAO this. I want to continue playing older games so I had a responsibility to install CFW to play whatever I want regardless of sony's or anyone else's cost cutting decisionsSometimes I have to laugh and remind myself that its video games we are talking about.
"Sony has a responsibility....."
I mean, reading that headline makes it seem like Sony are about to end world hunger and find a way to create world peace.
That's why I don't know why Sony hasn't jumped on this sooner. A huge feather in their cap.If PS5 had backwards compatibility with at least PS1 and PS2 it would already be enough to blow Xbox out of the water.
Sony dont care about their fans. They only care about money. If theres no money in it for them, they dont bother.
they don't. For Sony the games are just a product to make money and not some historical artifact.
When you buy a movie, does your media player or PC still allow you to play the disc/digital file without CMOS battery issues or time syncing with an online store?Let's be real though, compare it to movies for a close to apples-to-apples match-up.
Do movie studios keep producing titles on abandoned formats, like say VHS? No.
Do they keep all their back catalogue in constant circulation via reprints and remasterings? No.
Do they even offer their entire catalogue of recent movies on-demand? No.
Do they keep a stockpile of masters warehoused away for safe-keeping? Yes.
Why are games supposed to be treated differently? Especially as they aren't nearly so easy to transform between different media/playback methods, and don't have nearly so many avenues for distribution and exhibition?
He's right, they look like shit.Did he really say that? Spoken like a true gamer..
What a knob.
Indeed lmao. Nintendo charging full retail for barely upgraded ports. Microsoft only went the BC route to distract from their lack of compelling releases during X1 generation. They ran with pro consumer narrative, because it continues to distract from that deficit.Thanks for describing every single corporation in the world
Lol, Amen. Collect it like vinylHe's right, they look like shit.
We have rose tinted glasses when it comes to old games, I remember them looking much better.
It's us that needs to preserve shit, with discs, fuck digital.
What confuses me about this thought process is that if the user is so concerned about preserving their game history, why wouldn't they hold onto hardware? Like collecting vinyl. That is why physical media has value.
Don't get me wrong, it is a nice feature, and I am surprised Sony isn't trying harder themselves to preserve them because of their rich history. But the RnD costs aren't worth it for a niche feature.
So that is a key reason why remasters and remakes have value, especially when a lot of work, for sale. Both sides get what they want.
I forget where I read it, but I read somewhere Sony's BC features in PS2 and PS3 weren't so much for long term viability. They were done so they had a feature to brag about against Dreamcast and 360.Why the PS5 doesn't via emulation play PS1-3 is beyond me.
It's really weird because when the PS2 came out and was backwards compatible we viewed that as a great strength of PlayStation. I was a Nintendo kid and wished I could play all the games on one system.
Jim Ryan did say this:
Not 100% guaranted. You never know what can happen. Konami did lost the source code of Silent Hill 2 and 3. There is a known rule at engineering: If one shit can happen, then it will probably happen.All of this stuff is being preserved with or without Sony. Same goes for literally every other video game company.
Didnt know that. lol.Not 100% guaranted. You never know what can happen. Konami did lost the source code of Silent Hill 2 and 3. There is a known rule at engineering: If one shit can happen, then it will probably happen.
There seems to be a big market for PC gamers to play oldies on Steam and GOG. And GOG games can go all the way back to the 80s.Not sure Jim Ryan's comments are exactly wrong. It's all about perspective, in this case more so age and nostalgia. It's dam hard to go back and play an earlier era 3d game. Anyone under the age of 20-25 would be disgusted with what they see. It depends what you grew up on really. I find 2D games are much easier to go back and play. So is their a market for this with 25+ gamers?.
Are we expecting Vita games to look and play well on our big tv's? does need some up scaling?, then is the game no longer the same game?
I would guess most 30 and under players, don't or couldn't go back past PS3 level of graphics?
Nobody ever argued subscription plans like GP, PS Now or Netflix keep 100% of content. Every one knows content can come and go based on the deal with the content creator.Games preservation is all about original hardware or emulation.
This idea that new hardware needs to be able to play every previously released game ever is some silly pipe dream. Even streaming services like Netflix and D+ have to deal with licensing issues and removing titles from their catalog. Even Gamepass takes things out of rotation.
Plus let’s consider when these companies start removing content to go with the changing times. Some titles are censored, some removed, some just not included in the first place (Song of the South). Censorship on these services is very popular. If you think this wouldn’t happen with games too then you are living in a fantasy.
The “Netflix of Games” that is an unchanging catalog of every game ever made is a dream and that’s all it will ever be.
He was just too candid for them. He literally was giving the opinion that the majority of us have, whether they want to admit or not.Not sure Jim Ryan's comments are exactly wrong. It's all about perspective, in this case more so age and nostalgia. It's dam hard to go back and play an earlier era 3d game. Anyone under the age of 20-25 would be disgusted with what they see. It depends what you grew up on really. I find 2D games are much easier to go back and play. So is their a market for this with 25+ gamers?.
Are we expecting Vita games to look and play well on our big tv's? does need some up scaling?, then is the game no longer the same game?
I would guess most 30 and under players, don't or couldn't go back past PS3 level of graphics?