To Far Away Times
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But the Dreamcast had a great library of games...
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Sony Having Difficult Time Getting Third Party Support For The PS Vita
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But the Dreamcast had a great library of games...
So by that logic , the superior graphics of Vita (compared to 3DS) is also a "gimmick" ?
phosphor112
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I actually would like it integrated into more programs because I prefer using it than to touching the screen. Especially with the facebook app.. you can scroll with it, but the browser lacks that, which annoys the hell out of me.
GoofsterStud
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Why wouldn't those developers also go to the 3DS? Just curious...bigger user base.
That's accurate. I was more implying the fantastic hardware that won't get the support it deserves.
metalslimer
Member
And yet Nintendo actually rectified the situation last year when 3DS wasn't doing as well as planned and apologized for how bad things went. What has Sony done to try and save Vita? Yoshida says nice things, but so far he's been just spouting talk and no results have been shown. Also how did this thread turn into a console war...
Leona Lewis
Banned
As long as PSO2 still comes out for the thing, I don't care if not a single game is announced for Vita ever again.
Please don't cancel it Sega ;_;
Please don't cancel it Sega ;_;
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
They have given it two analog sticks, they have started pleaded with 3rd party developers to develop games for it, they have given Canadian gamers discounts on the hardware, they have even given an OLED 5 inch screen. D:
The latter sounds like something Iwata would say, but tough luck for NoA, we're Reggie's bitches.
NoJ has it made son.
Dr. Zoidberg
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Because the 3DS will have 3rd party support and Nintendo won't have any reason to fund their development. Sony likes going to these small studios and propping them up in exchange for exclusive games. Since the studios are so small, it doesn't cost them much. Certainly less than moneyhatting big publishers.
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
I was an early adopter, so you can faintly hear my whimpering on the side.
It's a lot easier than admitting the company you are emotionally invested in has sent out their latest handheld to die.
Loghorn150
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You're forgetting that the handheld market is very important in Japan, & that Nintendo & Sony are Japanese companies.
If there's no strong 3rd party support for the device, then the handheld starts rotting out.
TheGreyHulk
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I'm waiting for a price drop.
$250 + mandatory mem card is just too much right now for a handheld. that's more than a phone.
a $199 bundle with mem card and a high quality game would be a nice deal though. do it sony!
$250 + mandatory mem card is just too much right now for a handheld. that's more than a phone.
a $199 bundle with mem card and a high quality game would be a nice deal though. do it sony!
GoofsterStud
Member
I'm not sure, both systems have there merits. This is unfortunate.... :-(
Castor Krieg
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I would've preferred someone being less cool, and better at their job. Because if "that's his job", he is pretty terrible at it.
actually, nintendo has been quite open in addressing their shortcomings with the 3DS launch and took some pretty extreme measures--selling hardware at a loss which they never do--to correct it
miyamoto and iwata have both admitted they didn't have the right software available to support the system, and as recently as a month ago iwata pointed out that 3DS still isn't selling up to their expectations outside japan
Mentaiko_Allergy
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Come on man, you know exactly how this thread turned into this. It's not like this thread was really needed anyway when the link was provided in the last vita is doomed thread. Same folks that have no interest in the vita whatsoever other than crying about it sales.
So, to you, superior graphic is 'gimmick'? I mean I understand you want to defend Nintendo but that's going a bit too far, buddy.
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
Coming from an Otaku-Desu perspective, I only ever buy game consoles for Japanese media. I am terribly disappointed by the lack of localization. However, the same can be said for Vita.
More Japanese games must be translated.
I'm still waiting for the angelic girl with an eyepatch to make the trip overseas. <3
OldJadedGamer
Banned
By the time that happens it will be this xmas at the soonest which means they then have to compete with the WiiU for gamers dollars.
Dr. Zoidberg
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So? If anything Sony has shown us that it is both prideful and stubborn. They will support it on their own if need be. I'm not saying it'll sell, just that they won't kill it. Sony will still make games available on it, even if they are in low numbers, for a few years. And the official PR will still act like everything is fine.
IMO, The only way Vita actually dies is if 1) Sony dies, or 2) There is a big corporate shakeup at Sony and the "wrong people" gain control.
chertipros
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Good graphics is a feature the 3ds doesn't have. It's the reason why some people would get a vita over the 3ds. How is it not a gimmick? And how is a gimmick a bad thing?
Same here. I don't need a new Madden or Assassin's Creed every year. In fact, these are the games that make the Vita look like it has nothing interesting or unique. I'd love to see Sony go the other direction and throw money at indie developers to try and push the Vita as like a portable companion to the cool stuff you see on PC. Most games you can get on PS3 you can also get on XBox and maybe the Wii. For the Vita to truly be unique it needs more than console ports.
leatherhat
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AC, Cod and Bioshock are all coming. Which is more western support then most handhelds get. Its japanese devs that are vita-shy.
phosphor112
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I didn't even want to bother with that post..
You can do more than just image quality with higher graphical capabilities...
Well, that "news" was obvious, but if they still say that at this time, we can't expect much from gamescom/tgs I guess.
They have a great lineup for the first year, but the future isn't looking hot.
A part of their "plan" was probably to sell a good amount of vitas in the first few months with the strong launch lineup to show that they have a solid hardwarebase, but well...
They have a great lineup for the first year, but the future isn't looking hot.
A part of their "plan" was probably to sell a good amount of vitas in the first few months with the strong launch lineup to show that they have a solid hardwarebase, but well...
Ace Harding
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PopcornMegaphone
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davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
you honestly think the people who buy those games care to know or pay attention to who develops the game?
Infinity Ward COD games sold as much as Treyarch COD games. And we know who is (used to be) the better developer.
Exterminieren
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GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
It took them 6 fucking months to realize that selling a $49.99 Vita title game was an absurd price point to begin with
Now you see them lowering it to a nice $29.99 price point
That game being Uncharted GA
Dropping some of those $39.99 titles down to $19.99 now, would've done wonder the first week release, but no, stubbornness and heads up asses always is Sony's mantra
Good job wrecking your own platform from the get go
I wonder from E3 2012 conference that picture with all those companies that were dedicated to supporting the VITA, how many it has now... it might still be prodcued by say a Capcom or SE, but it won't be Team A or even Team B, more like Team C that is mobile capable and is given a book to read how to get that game HD-rezed up
Now you see them lowering it to a nice $29.99 price point
That game being Uncharted GA
Dropping some of those $39.99 titles down to $19.99 now, would've done wonder the first week release, but no, stubbornness and heads up asses always is Sony's mantra
Good job wrecking your own platform from the get go
I wonder from E3 2012 conference that picture with all those companies that were dedicated to supporting the VITA, how many it has now... it might still be prodcued by say a Capcom or SE, but it won't be Team A or even Team B, more like Team C that is mobile capable and is given a book to read how to get that game HD-rezed up
very true, developers outside japan typically don't bother working on handhelds which places even more importance on a handhelds japanese performance. And as we're seeing week after week in the media create threads the vita is really struggling there. Major third party franchises like monster hunter, dragon quest, and kingdom hearts are showing up on the 3DS and to make matters worse very little of sony's first party stable, with perhaps the exception of gran turismo, has any relevance in Japan so they can't exactly bring the system back to propserity on their own.
It's certainly a bleak situation.
They should drop the notion of seperate handheld-consoles, but rather try something like the Game Gear-Master System, but even more advanced. Make a Wii U like console where the GamePad is actually an handheld that can be used seperately from the console. You download 1-2 games to it and you can play it somewhere else.
If that's the case Sony should probably take some time to study how to divide resources between two platforms equally.
Liamario
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As a Vita owner, I do feel right now that the system is dead in the water. It doesnt help that I've just made the switch to PC gaming which was and is a revelation for me.
Vita is a beautiful device, but after the abysmal e3 showing and Sony repeating the exact same mistakes they made with PSP, I'm not holding much interest or hope in the device ;-(
Vita is a beautiful device, but after the abysmal e3 showing and Sony repeating the exact same mistakes they made with PSP, I'm not holding much interest or hope in the device ;-(
I think the issue here is that AC and COD are going to be overshadowed by the console releases, while Bioshock Vita, for all intents and purposes, is vaporware.
leatherhat
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Even if they are overshadowed they only have to sell a fraction of what the main series do to be big hits
GoofsterStud
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This doesn't really prove anything. The PSP was a fluke. The Gamegear didn't really do much, and I loved my Sega Nomad...I just think I was the only one.
True, but that's assuming that they garner that level of attention, which previous handheld iterations have not. Admittedly, the games will be closer than ever to the console equivalent, but that does not necessarily guarantee a proportional increase in consumer interest.
If Sony made this approach, they'd need a significantly lower priced Vita or an attractive bundle. Who really wants to pay $250 for a portable controller. Personally, though, I wouldn't mind if it had this function.
I bought mine for 185 in March. What a chump
They'll probably sell really well among the existing Vita userbase but the question is whether they can sell systems when the same games (or almost the same games) are available on all the other platforms as well.