Actually, it was Adam Boyes, who has also said this within 24hrs of the kickstarter going live after it was announced on the Sony stage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRGlVDi3FHQ&feature=youtu.be&t=1m40s
I don't know about anyone else but I feel like I paid $500 for Yu Suzuki's autograph and am just getting shenmue funded for free as a perk lol
There are seriously people complaining? What the ever-loving fuck?
Nobody is forcing anybody to put down any money. Without Kickstarter, there would be no Shenmue 3. It's that simple.
No company in their right mind would fund a sequel to a 14 year-old Dreamcast game that 99% of gamers have probably never heard of/played.
But it's actually happening and due to the amount of support/interest shown by the smidgen of gamers that did play the original games, Sony are actually helping with its development now - which will likely expand the scope of the game a good deal more than if Suzuki and co relied solely on a Kickstarter budget.
Some people will complain about anything.
Did people really think this game was going to be funded by reaching 2 million dollars? Really....
Oooooooooooh, yeah~Foot? Hmm, ok, never understood that expression, but lets look at the rest of your ridiculous post.
Hmm, you're a Kickstarter expert? You're the owner then? You know how Kickstarter should operate? Maybe gives us some of your credentials then or maybe you'll stay silent because you're talking out of your... well, you know what Oh, now we're gonna turn Bloodborne being made into a bad thing. Evil SONY LET?S ALL SHOUT GUYS. Hmm, I was gonna check your post history but its probably all xbox related no offense. LOL, shame? Repentance? Now you're just trolling...
OK, I will laugh, because your post is getting insane now. Nobody will buy Shenmue? Heh, I guess 2 million+ dollars in pledges just appeared out of thin air? LOL, you were right with your "laugh all you want" comment. But it is US who are laughing at YOU.
Sony will lose its business? IDK if you saw or overslept the last 2 days, but Sony won the E3 it was the best E3 ever, by a consensus. Sony wont lose it's business. But you should stop buying their games nevertheless. Becauise Sony doesnt ned a customre lik you.
tl;dr translation of your post: hurdruoaorudrup ;()
My mistake, and saying it within 24 hours doesn't mean much when the Kickstarter shattered records and had already likely pulled in $2 million by that point.
Word for word I agree with this! And I hate the Shenmue games! Heck, I'm one of the people who claimed Shenmue would fail to reach 1 millions not kickstarter years ago.This Thread represents modern Fanboyism and Gaming in a nutshell and it is disgusting to see and it makes me sad.
Y's and Sony give you a opportunity to have a Game "Fans" always wanted and people are bitching that Sony wants prove that it can get to a break even point.
People have to realize that this game is not for the main stream audience or gamers. The Kickstarter is just and only for the Fucking Hardcore Shenmue fans, so they can get a game out, that is most likely a financial disaster or not a game publisher want to fund. And it seems likeFans do not give a shit how this games is done. On average people are paying more than 80$ to get this idea of a game, which is insane.
40.000 Backers for such ,most likely, expensive game is not very much tbh, but it shows that some hardcore people really want that game and really go all in for this.
And now people blame sony to want some kind of security, that they do not lose a shit ton of money ? Ask yourself a question. Why did Microsoft, Nintendo, Sega, Acti, Ea or any other publisher try to get the game or try to fund it or even try help Y's? Because they know, that today this game is so niche and so exotic, that it will not be a main stream success and most likely a very high financial risk, that nobody wanted to take or even consider in 14 years. Sony is willing to take this risk, but wanted proof that people do not only demand that game on Twitter, but also that they are ready to back it up financially and take a little bit of Sony's risk. How is this bad ?
People are getting this game cheaper, when they back it up with 30§, but most people just went crazy backing it up. But as I said it is only the most hardcore niche fans and not the main stream.
Sony gets blaimed for not taking a financial enormous risk and not giving a Niche game to all of you without some kind of security. The most people, who back Shenmue III do not give a shit about how, they are in heaven, that Sony even considers the idea of Shenmue III and they where kind enough to give this exotic game this grand stage.
Really not a fan of this approach.
Yup, like some of the posters posting that they are going to pull their pledge because they felt that they were scammed into emotionally-pledging by Sony yesterday.
Pretty sure they didn't pledge in the first place.
My mistake, and saying it within 24 hours doesn't mean much when the Kickstarter shattered records and had already likely pulled in $2 million by that point.
Without Sony's involvement, Shenmue III wouldn't have been made at all. The franchise has been available forever, and nobody wanted to fund it. Heck, even Sony themselves were reluctant hence the requirement of a successful Kickstarter. If it weren't for the hard work of Suzuki and influential supporters at Sony, this Kickstarter wouldn't have even been envisioned.What is really funny is that because this game has Sony involvement it will get the proper advertising and marketing. Why can't people be happy about that. This is such a niche series and for the 3rd one to be a reality and sell that would be a dream come true to a lot of us that originally loved the hell out of this game when the first one came out.
I know myself for one was one of the few people that actually played the first one. Not many people had a Dreamcast then.
I want tons of gamers to be able to know about this, I want this project to be brilliant. Kickstarter funds alone would not allow for development and advertising for this to be a reality.
California should be bottling up the bitter tears of a lot of posters. It would solve the huge water crisis going on right now.
A lot of this stems from a lack of knowledge in how games are funded in general, and how Kickstarter in specific works. Maybe there should be some sort of required reading for anyone posting in these kinds of threads.While I agree that many of these arguments are thinly veiled outlets for hardware preferences, I think many people are just honestly concerned about some imagined system in place is about to crumble and thus everything about video games as they know it will cease to be. Such arguments are often rooted in weird forms of morality that I don't think apply to the types of buisness dealings we are talking about. I think, honestly, many of these arguments stem from inexperience in these these areas, as well.
There are seriously people complaining? What the ever-loving fuck?
Nobody is forcing anybody to put down any money. Without Kickstarter, there would be no Shenmue 3. It's that simple.
No company in their right mind would fund a sequel to a 14 year-old Dreamcast game that 99% of gamers have probably never heard of/played.
But it's actually happening and due to the amount of support/interest shown by the smidgen of gamers that did play the original games, Sony are actually helping with its development now - which will likely expand the scope of the game a good deal more than if Suzuki and co relied solely on a Kickstarter budget.
Some people will complain about anything.
Foot? Hmm, ok, never understood that expression, but lets look at the rest of your ridiculous post.
Hmm, you're a Kickstarter expert? You're the owner then? You know how Kickstarter should operate? Maybe gives us some of your credentials then or maybe you'll stay silent because you're talking out of your... well, you know what Oh, now we're gonna turn Bloodborne being made into a bad thing. Evil SONY LET?S ALL SHOUT GUYS. Hmm, I was gonna check your post history but its probably all xbox related no offense. LOL, shame? Repentance? Now you're just trolling...
OK, I will laugh, because your post is getting insane now. Nobody will buy Shenmue? Heh, I guess 2 million+ dollars in pledges just appeared out of thin air? LOL, you were right with your "laugh all you want" comment. But it is US who are laughing at YOU.
Sony will lose its business? IDK if you saw or overslept the last 2 days, but Sony won the E3 it was the best E3 ever, by a consensus. Sony wont lose it's business. But you should stop buying their games nevertheless. Becauise Sony doesnt ned a customre lik you.
tl;dr translation of your post: hurdruoaorudrup ;()
They could have literally done all of that while being transparent with the Kickstarter. "Yo, we're going to move forward with funding Shenmue III if the fans prove that the interest is there. Vote with your wallet if you want this game to exist and you'll get shit in return." Same end result and it does everything you've described in your post.
Agreed. We should also thank Microsoft for funding Tomb Raider. For without their contribution abd assistance offloading of devekoper risk we may never have seen it.
So is this closer to Sony saving SF5 then?
Apologies, it's 1am and I've just dragged my eyeballs through forty pages of sodium-speckled hysteria. I'm a tad jaded.
The kickstarter was a ploy. I fucking hate everything.
Absolutely. Things that I wanted made that might have never seen the light of day now have a small chance at life again. That's amazing.I think this new type of dual funding is fascinating. The more successful these type of projects go, the more likely you will see more obscure or niche games get put into production.
It's a really great time to be a gamer, when a decade ago things were looking bleak for more niche games. Now the combination of crowd funding and/or improved development tools enabling talented indie developers to make games once thought impossible. Things are looking outright amazing.
Exact game I was thinking of actually.LOL @ People that mad, if Suikoden even given similar chances I would all over it.
You're a special kind of awesome.Hell, I never even played Shenmue 1 or 2, and I backed this, because I would like to see this game made for the people who really want it.
LOL @ People that mad, if Suikoden even given similar chances I would all over it.
I really gotta figure out a way to play Shenmue I and II. I played a bit of....I I think. At a cousins house as a kid. I didn't get it.
LOL @ People that mad, if Suikoden even given similar chances I would all over it.
Please. If Microsoft wanted this game, they would have offered to help make it happen. They didn't. Sony is the one who always swoops in and funds weird, niche games. It's no different here.
If you bought an Xbox One for weird niche games by Japanese developers, you made a bad call.
Foot? Hmm, ok, never understood that expression, but lets look at the rest of your ridiculous post.
Hmm, you're a Kickstarter expert? You're the owner then? You know how Kickstarter should operate? Maybe gives us some of your credentials then or maybe you'll stay silent because you're talking out of your... well, you know what Oh, now we're gonna turn Bloodborne being made into a bad thing. Evil SONY LET?S ALL SHOUT GUYS. Hmm, I was gonna check your post history but its probably all xbox related no offense. LOL, shame? Repentance? Now you're just trolling...
OK, I will laugh, because your post is getting insane now. Nobody will buy Shenmue? Heh, I guess 2 million+ dollars in pledges just appeared out of thin air? LOL, you were right with your "laugh all you want" comment. But it is US who are laughing at YOU.
Sony will lose its business? IDK if you saw or overslept the last 2 days, but Sony won the E3 it was the best E3 ever, by a consensus. Sony wont lose it's business. But you should stop buying their games nevertheless. Becauise Sony doesnt ned a customre lik you.
tl;dr translation of your post: hurdruoaorudrup ;()
Agreed. We should also thank Microsoft for funding Tomb Raider. For without their contribution abd assistance offloading of devekoper risk we may never have seen it.
It's like Nintendo and Bayoneeta 2 againPlease. If Microsoft wanted this game, they would have offered to help make it happen. They didn't. Sony is the one who always swoops in and funds weird, niche games. It's no different here.
If you bought an Xbox One for weird niche games by Japanese developers, you made a bad call.
Pretty much. Though I'm confident most of the faux outrage is just because Sony is the one behind it instead of their favoured platform. Must be a 'rather not have it at all that have it on a Sony platform' type situation or something lol.
My mistake, and saying it within 24 hours doesn't mean much when the Kickstarter shattered records and had already likely pulled in $2 million by that point.
lmfao I'd french kiss the devil to get Shenmue III. I'd cut off a toe. I'd do part time as a human speed bump.
There isn't anything in the world that could get me to pull my pledge. Hell, I wish I could pledge more, right now, to offset the haters.
LOL wish the PC conference wasn't in 5, this has been special
What is really funny is that because this game has Sony involvement it will get the proper advertising and marketing. Why can't people be happy about that. This is such a niche series and for the 3rd one to be a reality and sell that would be a dream come true to a lot of us that originally loved the hell out of this game when the first one came out.
I know myself for one was one of the few people that actually played the first one. Not many people had a Dreamcast then.
I want tons of gamers to be able to know about this, I want this project to be brilliant. Kickstarter funds alone would not allow for development and advertising for this to be a reality.
California should be bottling up the bitter tears of a lot of posters. It would solve the huge water crisis going on right now.
I just want to say to my shenmue bredas... we fuckin made it son, we fuckin made it.
This is why I'm okay with Kickstarter being used this way, it's easy to have 40k people sign a petition saying they will buy the game, it's another to have 40k people to pledge their money in advance to make it a petition with actual substance.
Does this make you feel better?Sony just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Kickstarter (I'm an expert), but transparency and honesty are huge parts of it. It's not like it was with Bloodborne where you can become successful by help funding and publishing it. If you help fund a game in Kickstarter, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the fans, after hearing about this, is not going to want to back Shenmue at all, nor will they purchase any of Sony's games they help fund in the future. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Sony has alienated an entire market with this move.
Sony, remove all your funding or you can kiss your business goodbye.
A lot of this stems from a lack of knowledge in how games are funded in general, and how Kickstarter in specific works. Maybe there should be some sort of required reading for anyone posting in these kinds of threads.
You bastard.