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Sony: "Our 1st party lineup a little sparse this year"; emphasis on 3rd party support
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Nightengale
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On the topic of Andrew House and E3, this was what he said about E3:
But obviously it's nothing but lies because he said their first-party line-up this year is sparse. E3 is shit, and ruined confirmed. /s
Haha touche, should've put up "Japanese console devs" in my post. They even have to convince Japanese devs to develop for their console with funding and external help from their own studios. Can't imagine MS doing something similar when there is so little to gain.
I think the allure of a new console played mostly a role. Really, that's all I can reason about it. PS4 has literally had nothing standout about it besides Bloodborne. We're already seeing this generation where if a game is coming to PC, the definitive version is found there. It lacks much of the allure last generation had where many games didn't even come to PC, or if they did the console version had extra content that wasn't on the platform. Those days are kinda done save for Destiny, but that didn't even come out on PC, so that's not an honest example.
Consider for a moment that Street Fighter V, Metal Gear Solid V, and potentially Tales of Zestiria are games I would never consider to be coming to PC, but they all are, and that's where they'll shine. These are games you'd buy consoles for.
sammyCYBORG
Member
As someone who owns a high end gaming PC I hate the lack of great 1st party titles this gen from Microsoft and Sony.
Consoles used to be all about the exclusives, now we get maybe 4-6 good ones in a year. It's pretty frustrating being a consumer who buys these consoles for the exclusives... and then barely get any games because of it.
And yes I know it's my fault for buying both day 1, but I'm not saying Sony and MS have robbed me, just that it's disappointing. I want the glory days of console exclusives back... now!
Consoles used to be all about the exclusives, now we get maybe 4-6 good ones in a year. It's pretty frustrating being a consumer who buys these consoles for the exclusives... and then barely get any games because of it.
And yes I know it's my fault for buying both day 1, but I'm not saying Sony and MS have robbed me, just that it's disappointing. I want the glory days of console exclusives back... now!
OrbitalBeard
Member
They did the same thing for last E3 and honestly, Sony didn't reveal much. The thing I remember most about Sony's conference was the incredibly lengthy portion in the middle that didn't focus on games.
That being said, I do expect this E3 to be more exciting for Sony fans than last year.
EmptySpace
Banned
BummerAre these all the rest of their 2015 releases?
God of War III Remastered
Until Dawn
Tearaway Unfolded
Damn yeah that is sparse.
yeah it needs more shootbang and moans
lol This is one of most craziest post i have ever seen in a while. Sony is starting to lose japanese third pt support? Any proof?
chrominance
Member
So weird to me how Sony and Microsoft have so thoroughly switched places this generation. Last gen it felt like Microsoft was heavily relying on third parties (aka Call of Duty) while Sony was trying to play up its first-party offerings to try and get back the 360 audience. Even then, Microsoft had Gears, Halo and Forza (as well as smaller franchises like Crackdown and Fable).
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I bet a lot of the delay in dev time is because they have several studios making games for Morpheus. It is basically a forgone conclusion MM will have a Morpheus launch game, so I wonder how many others are doing the same. That is exciting and scary at the same time, because it will help VR take off, but if it doesn't that is a lot of wasted resources.
Also Stig's project at Santa Monica that had the plug pulled likely left a gigantic hole in Sony's release schedule.
Also Stig's project at Santa Monica that had the plug pulled likely left a gigantic hole in Sony's release schedule.
They're only being straight about it because they are talking to investors.
Grimgrillz
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Ever heard of Germany, Italy, France, and the rest of the EU? Those guys game heavy even more so than some parts of the UK. Don't let the international language barrier alter your perception of who else games this side of the pond.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Where? Maybe they can win a month here and there in the US but as far as the rest of the world, those things won't cut it.
I share this sentiment, but it's an industry-wide thing.. Development of new 'triple A' titles seems to take longer (due to various factors), and the only thing you can 'reliably count on' are annualised sports games and franchises from Activision / Ubi / EA.
Jarod McChicken
Member
On a first party point of view so far.
January : nothing
February : The Order 1886
March : Bloodborne, MLB, Helldivers
April : nothing BUT Mortal Kombat X is beasting on PS4
May : nothing BUT The Witcher 3 is beasting on PS4
June : nothing BUT Batman Arkham Knight is beasting on PS4 (I'm from the future, yes)
July : God of War III Remaster
August : Until Dawn
Yet to be dated : Tearaway, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, Rime (if not 2016) No Man's Sky (if not 2016). I'm not counting the F2P download only games like Drawn to Death, Kill Strain and The Tomorrow Children, not that I don't like them but too little impact I think.
Heavily rumored : Uncharted Collection. Potential helping deals : Star Wars Battlefront, Black Ops III. Not first party, but tons of japanese PS exclusive friends : Dragon Quest Heroes, Sword Art Online, Tales of Zestiria (let's say it's official), Persona 5 (if not 2016).
What we know for sure is Sony CAN'T counter the Halo 5 + RoTR duo this autumn in US, there's no debate about that, but I don't know if their 2015 line-up will be so "sparse" compared to MS and Nintendo, when the year is finished ?
January : nothing
February : The Order 1886
March : Bloodborne, MLB, Helldivers
April : nothing BUT Mortal Kombat X is beasting on PS4
May : nothing BUT The Witcher 3 is beasting on PS4
June : nothing BUT Batman Arkham Knight is beasting on PS4 (I'm from the future, yes)
July : God of War III Remaster
August : Until Dawn
Yet to be dated : Tearaway, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, Rime (if not 2016) No Man's Sky (if not 2016). I'm not counting the F2P download only games like Drawn to Death, Kill Strain and The Tomorrow Children, not that I don't like them but too little impact I think.
Heavily rumored : Uncharted Collection. Potential helping deals : Star Wars Battlefront, Black Ops III. Not first party, but tons of japanese PS exclusive friends : Dragon Quest Heroes, Sword Art Online, Tales of Zestiria (let's say it's official), Persona 5 (if not 2016).
What we know for sure is Sony CAN'T counter the Halo 5 + RoTR duo this autumn in US, there's no debate about that, but I don't know if their 2015 line-up will be so "sparse" compared to MS and Nintendo, when the year is finished ?
sammyCYBORG
Member
The demise of the AA games really hurts, I feel. It's all indie or AAAAA these days.
Those mid-tier games used to make the wait for the AAA games fly by.
(Not that I don't love smaller indie games, but there's clearly a gap in the market)
The fact that most AAA games launch fucking broken is the real travesty though.
Nightengale
Member
This is an investor's session. They're talking big numbers.
Effigenius
Member
It was a little sparse last year too
And the year before as well (for the ps4)
I would feel better if I knew everything that was coming. At this point it seems like we should have the new game from a lot of studios at the very least announced. This sparse announcement schedule doesn't do much to alleviate my concerns that Sony has quietly lessened their first party efforts since they have this Gen in the bag.
Effigenius
Member
They will have things to talk about at E3. They will talk about 2016 and 2017 and maybe even 2018.
Sticky&Sweet
Banned
I'm guessing it's going to be an emphasis on 'exclusive content'.
What do you mean how? They've got Tomb Raider, Halo 5 and Gears Remaster lined up.
I don't know why people are discounting it being at e3 just because it won't be out this year.
Fbh
Member
Because a Sony excecutive is obviously going to say
"This is year is going to be just ok. I wouldn't get too excited about it if I were you"
You mean you still had some left after all this time?
Nightengale
Member
Rather than looking at "who's yet to announce games", why not look at what's announced over the past 2 years and make your assessment based off what they announced and see if you feel that to be true.
yeah, agreed. I`m all for more 'mid tier' stuff. Not every game needs to be another open-world massive, epic, online supporting Citizen Kane of Gaming. I would love to see someone like Kojima going back to smaller productions and churning those out in a higher frequency.
Samurai G0SU
Member
It was a little sparse last year too
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY.
yet, still sells like hotcakes! So confusing to me to think of the logic behind this. Almost the same as why people eat up apple products. Anyway, 2016 shall be glorious!
Uncharted >=D ..
Why empty promises and Hype of course!
OrbitalBeard
Member
Maybe it will be at E3. Maybe. But it hasn't been at the last five E3s, so I'm not holding my breath.
Halo 5, Rise of the Tomb Raider and Forza 6 is a pretty good start.
And thats the thing it likely wont be. I dont know how anyone can look at that list and go the system hasn't released much. Hell even 3rd party exclusives like final fantasy 10 hd collection and that monster hunter like game that released in March helped add to the library
wapplew
Member
I don't think they switched place, it's not like Internal studio stop making games, just shits happen to ND and SMM which cause them delay their titles.
Also, I think part of the slow start reason for Sony's studio, they have to spend more time to brainstorm their next IP unlike studios that can start making next installment.
PurpleSquid
Neo Member
focusing on 3rd party is bad for me at least. the reason i never got a 360 was cause it was so focused on 3rd party. I also don't buy 3rd party games on my ps4 which basically means my ps4 rarely ever gets turned on which means I'm not really giving sony any money. less 3rd party, more 1st party. don't mimic the 360's strategy.
theaters were a waste last year, it was an alright show at best. i wouldn't put it over them to do it again just because it gives the illusion of a good show
theaters were a waste last year, it was an alright show at best. i wouldn't put it over them to do it again just because it gives the illusion of a good show
The ps4 has been a disappointment. The PS3 was better in terms of exclusive games in the first two years of its life.
Infact this whole generation of games is one big disappointment, and the fact that the industry is pretty much just dominated by EA, Activison and Ubisoft is worrying.
It feels like every big release is from one of those three, I wish some of them would leave and just focus on mobile games....
Those three companies represent everything that is wrong with gaming today, and their business model is what will kill the gaming industry as we know it.
Portugeezer
Member
That would be a waste.
Nightengale
Member
I had /s there for a reason.
I was simply making fun of folks who think a weak line-up this year somehow has anything to do with E3, especially considering the fact that a large majority of Sony first-party announcements at press conferences are games to be released in coming years, not the current year.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Exactly how I feel.
Things take time.
But first party content is coming and has come. They've released more first party games then their direct competition this year. People are just losing their was because they don't have a BIG first party exclusive this fall.
And Sony still have exclusives slated. DQ heroes, Persona 5 etc.
Graphics Horse
Member
nvm I can't read
Yeah this
I really miss the mid-sized studios, bloody hell. Usually the best unexpected surprises came from them