Where's proof of that?
isn't it R&D or something? I know nothing about tech so don't take it from me lol
Everytime any of the bigs at Sony commented on how Vita was selling as expected - it was some of the most obvious corporate BS. How anyone on GAF ever fell for it is pretty crazy.
I'm never buying one until it actually has games. Why would i support a dead system with nothing that interests me?
I want Monster Hunter and at least 4 other good RPGs on it thats not a port of a port or Resmaster downgrade.
What are PS3 shipment figures for Q1? No separate breakdown for PS3/PS2?
Sony's exception on exchange rates was way off. They expected 105 yen for the Euro; it's currently sitting at 96. They expected 80 yen to the dollar; it's currently at 78.
7.4 million cell phones? do they really sell that many cell phones? who the hell uses a sony cell phone nowadays
It might be by next year. Seriously.My Vita is starting to look more and more like it's going to soon be a collector's item.
maybe sony's planning to revise the psp+vita forecast downward by 4m every quarter and hope no one notices
That's interesting that they're breaking out actual figures again for each division. With last years's into the bargain. Operating income for SCE last year wasn't bad.
Not really.Well they did better than Nintendo - that's pretty amazing
Yep. Would have been great if they released accurate figures. I think from this quarter onward they have started combining PS3/PS2 shipments as well.last year / same Q1
was 3.2 Mil divided into
Ps3 = 1.8
Ps2 = 1.4
this year if both psp and ps3 got lower sales (from above statement) would be something similar 1.7/1.6 ps3 and 1.1/1.2 ps2 in order to match the 2.8 million total of this Quarter
maybe sony's planning to revise the psp+vita forecast downward by 4m every quarter and hope no one notices
last year / same Q1
was 3.2 Mil divided into
Ps3 = 1.8
Ps2 = 1.4
this year if both psp and ps3 got lower sales (from above statement) would be something similar 1.7/1.6 ps3 and 1.1/1.2 ps2 in order to match the 2.8 million total of this Quarter
Sadly Sony has too many divisions.Yeah, it's much better... a $220 million loss for Nintendo compared to a $45 million loss for Sony (only the gaming division).
7.4 million cell phones? do they really sell that many cell phones? who the hell uses a sony cell phone nowadays
Sadly Sony has too many divisions.
looking forward to The Last of Us 2 on the Ouya.
7.4 million cell phones? do they really sell that many cell phones? who the hell uses a sony cell phone nowadays
Doesn't this offset all the moeny Sony lost with PS3 in the beginning? Or come close to it?
Doesn't this offset all the moeny Sony lost with PS3 in the beginning? Or come close to it?
Do we really have to get the idiots who say there won't be a ps4 because of stuff like this every time?
There probably shouldn't be PS4. But, nonetheless, it's Sony so it's coming.
I just don't think next gen is going to turn out well for anyone. Least of all Sony, who barely has the money to make the necessary investments.
Kaz said they won't make back the money they lost on PS3 in his lifetime, IIRC.
Do you have a source for this?
not even close
that's why they're working with Microsoft... remember?
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Do you have a source for this?
Remember not talking about Sony as a whole, JUST the gaming division. It would be nice to find that graph someone posted again to get exact figures.
It's well known that PS3 more than wiped out all the profits Sony ever made from the first two Playstations combined.
Considering last year should have been the time where PS3 profitability was peaking, a 3.6% operating margin is certainly not good.
Still a crazy number with how passive they're being.Originally was 16 million. Now it's down to 12 Vita+PSP
Not happening.
First year PS3 was on the market gaming division lost 232 billion Yen. Second year on the market gaming division lost 125 billion Yen.(and that includes PSP and PS2 profit, so PS3 obviously was much worse than that by itself)
They made a profit of 29 billion Yen last year. Do the math and it's pretty clear he's probably right.
is anyone else surprised by the 375million profit gaming made last year? after all those reports saying that the gaming division was loosing money too. 375 million makes 2011 the most profitable year PS3 has had hasnt it?
Doesn't this offset all the moeny Sony lost with PS3 in the beginning? Or come close to it? I remember graph running around gaf that had shown the gaming divisions profit/loss for the last 10 years. Think the biggest loss they took was in 2006 of ~225 million. Would be interested in seeing how that its changed overall for PS3 now the 375million profit is added to the mix.
Seems unsubstantiated.I just don't think next gen is going to turn out well for anyone. Least of all Sony, who barely has the money to make the necessary investments.
maybe I'm not remembering the graph correctly, but 2009 and 2010 were both profitable years. With 2006, 2007, and 2008 totaling around a 550-600 million loss in the gaming division over those three years. This 375million, combind with the profits in 2009 and 2010 should get them close to canceling that figure out, maybe turning a profit overall this year(if they make a profit in gaming this year).
Remember not talking about Sony as a whole, JUST the gaming division. It would be nice to find that graph someone posted again to get exact figures.