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[Illuminati]

Anyways, I just think Sony wasn't expecting this at all, because I seriously doubt they have anything remotely similar even in planning stages at this point.

Hasn't since day 1 Sony been preaching over and over again, practically to the point of burning it in everyone's brains, that the PS3 would be digital content provider for TV shows, music, and movies? They would have been stupid not to expect MS to do the same, especially when MS is or wants to compete with Apple in digital distribution.

 

[davepoobond]

Columbia Pictures. ahem

what about them?

 

[Kangu]

"PlayStation 3's content is designed for everyone to enjoy right out of the box"

Oh really? Does this mean that they decided to start shipping component or HDMI in their box now? Funny, I was under the impression that if I wanted to watch Blu-Ray movies in HD, I would have to buy something extra because the PS3 won't play movies in HD "right out of the box".

You also need an HDTV and, as Jonnyram "cleverly" pointed out, a broadband internet connection. And a power generator. Sony is st0pid.

 

[DarienA]

You also need an HDTV and, as Jonnyram "cleverly" pointed out, a broadband internet connection. And a power generator. Sony is st0pid.

Don't forget electricity! Oh wait that falls under power generator doesn't it...

 

[watership]

what about them?

I think he means Columbia Pictures is owned by Sony.

 

[Warm Machine]

Hasn't since day 1 Sony been saying over and over again, practically to the point of burning it in everyone's brains, that the PS3 would be digital content provider for TV shows, music, and movies? They would have been stupid not to expect MS to do the same, especially when they are competing with Apple.

I think it is more that no one expected it to happen this soon. Sony's similar stuff probably won't be ready for a while, but I haven't been following it to know for sure.

 

[fatigues_gasolini]

It would be no suprise to me if Sony did the same thing. Between Sony's movie studios and Tv production, they could put alot of content out there. 007 HD, Please.

 

[supermackem]

Ahhh arnt sony nice not only looking out for us euros with the killing of the evil import scene to save our houses from burning down and our children being killed, now they are looking out for the core 360 owners out there ahhhh. :lol

 

[scarybore]

:lol Have you even listened to them talk about their plans for their network?

True, but how many years have they been talking about stuff like this? Then again, I am sure Sony finally will get this movie downloads shit up and running with the PS3, but how soon is another matter entirely.

I think the main reason for this press release is that Sony has been beaten to the post by a strong rival over a feature Sony have been harping on about for years and failing to deliver it.

 

[Mojovonio]

Sony's actually been going on about this forever. Which is probably why they're so antsy about MS finally gearing up to do it themselves.

They've been talking about it, but haven't shown anything yet. I know they'll do it eventually, but I just think they're still caught up on fumbling around with the service as it stands.

 

[mckmas8808]

Sony really shouldn't (need to) 'react' to such news.

I agree with this post! Sony shut the **** up and just deliver the content bitches!

 

[supermackem]

You also need an HDTV and, as Jonnyram "cleverly" pointed out, a broadband internet connection. And a power generator. Sony is st0pid.

You also need to buy some leads no??? Ms strikes back with you dont even ship with supplied hd cables etc, boring sony should just STFU and try and get this train wreck of a launch over with.

 

[Wulfer]

i dont remember sony putting a gun to your head and forcing you to buy anything. the **** you rambling on about?

Do you like Spider-man or Bond movies then hell yes I might have to buy one. What the **** are you talking about is the question? Oh and don't listen to D. he always says crap like that. I usually just move on down the line.

 

[Stoney Mason]

True, but how many years have they been talking about stuff like this?

That's the funny bit to me. They've been talking about it forever and get beaten to the punch.

 

[buckfutter]

They've been talking about it, but haven't shown anything yet. I know they'll do it eventually, but I just think they're still caught up on fumbling around with the service as it stands.

I think Phil Harrison has sort of hinted about "content" being available on day one with the context being outside of game related downloads, but you're probably right as I'm pretty sure this close to launch and in the face of a competitor they'd want to tell all if their delivery system was prepped to go.

 

[davepoobond]

I think he means Columbia Pictures is owned by Sony.

yes, and? what do they have to do with him wanting HDDVD over Bluray? did they announce somethin for HDDVD or somethin? :lol

 

[Mojovonio]

That's the funny bit to me. They've been talking about it forever and get beaten to the punch.

Exactly! That's why I really think they were taken by surprise with this. I don't think it was any sort of top tier priority with them cause I doubt they thought MS would go through with it.

Well, they sure as hell will now.

 

[Beer Monkey]

It would be no suprise to me if Sony did the same thing. Between Sony's movie studios and Tv production, they could put alot of content out there. 007 HD, Please.

The downloaded HD movies simply cannot match the visual quality of Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. Not on 360, and not on PS3.

Though if they had high-def BSG I'd be there, at least as long as the broadcast keeps premiering on low-def SciFi channel.

 

[Zaptruder]

Hey Sony, you only get the right to criticize MS on this if you have plans to do better.

So I hope this means you guys have some awesome stuff planned for PSN.

 

[Mojovonio]

Hey Sony, you only get the right to criticize MS on this if you have plans to do better.

So I hope this means you guys have some awesome stuff planned for PSN.

I really don't think that's out of the question. I think its more going to come down to who can secure the biggest movies first and price.

Yay for competition!

 

[dskillzhtown]

damn, that was quick :lol and from the fellas who said, "you bought the hard drive? awesome! you know it doesn't work with the newer version of Ps2 right?....hey, you in the back...Square, shut it and make a new FF before i give you something to cry about!!!".

i love this industry.

:lol I forgot about that. Sony is talking shit when it really doesn't need to. Both companies want downloadable content not just games content. Sony should do what they do best, sit back and let someone else take the first stab, then copy their model.

 

[mckmas8808]

Hey Sony, you only get the right to criticize MS on this if you have plans to do better.

So I hope this means you guys have some awesome stuff planned for PSN.

Again I agree with this post!

 

[DenogginizerOS]

yes, and? what do they have to do with him wanting HDDVD over Bluray? did they announce somethin for HDDVD or somethin? :lol

If I go see and like a Columbia Pictures film, I am a Sony fan and consumer by default. It is their company and a part of the Sony experience (ex: The "Casino Royale" trailer shown and used by Sony to market the PS3 at the San Francisco gamer's day). If I want to enjoy that Sony experience on my HD-DVD player, I can't. The only way I can enjoy that film in HD is if I buy a Bluray player. Bluray is primarily a Sony technology which is currently the highest priced HD format on the market. So, when Sony says they "never" will segregate their consumers, they are incorrect.

 

[SolidSnakex]

True, but how many years have they been talking about stuff like this? Then again, I am sure Sony finally will get this movie downloads shit up and running with the PS3, but how soon is another matter entirely.

They've really been talking about this type of distribution with the PS3 and until that is released they can't really do anything.

I think the main reason for this press release is that Sony has been beaten to the post by a strong rival over a feature Sony have been harping on about for years and failing to deliver it.

I wonder if this is a case where Next Gen contacted Sony about this? I know that's what suually happens whenever a rival makes a big announcement, they'll contact a rep for a response from them.

 

[StingerNLG]

KUTARGI!!!!!!!!!!! Come look what Microsoft is doing!!

My goodness. Come on Sony.

 

[LevelNth]

If I go see and like a Columbia Pictures film, I am a Sony fan and consumer by default. It is their company and a part of the Sony experience (ex: The "Casino Royale" trailer shown and used by Sony to market the PS3 at the San Francisco gamer's day). If I want to enjoy that Sony experience on my HD-DVD player, I can't. The only way I can enjoy that film in HD is if I buy a Bluray player. Bluray, is primarily a Sony technology which is currently the highest priced HD format on the market. So, when Sony says they "never" will segregate their consumers, they are incorrect.

A good question would be why, going forward, do you prefer HD-DVD?

 

[jaypah]

Hey Sony, you only get the right to criticize MS on this if you have plans to do better.

So I hope this means you guys have some awesome stuff planned for PSN.

i wouldn't be surprised. it seems like they want to shoot the moon this time out and are finding some damn good ways of justifying the price. at least in my book.

 

[LJ11]

Sony's new "aggressive" PR approach to competitors isn't fairing any better than their old campaigns.

 

[COCKLES]

Smell the Sony fear.

 

[Mojovonio]

Sony's new "aggressive" PR approach to competitors isn't fairing any better than their old campaigns.

Ken K: "I played that Gears of War game, and its such a piece of shit."

 

[Warm Machine]

I think it's time to seriously ask ourselves if there's really a place in the market for people who just want a machine to play games in high-def. Does such a consumer really exist? And if so, should anybody really want their business?

The reality is that most people who play video games are also the market for music and movies so why not allow them access to their other favorite things too. The second reality and what has become the more important part is that a console that can deliver games in HD quality is also the same technology to support the movies and music part so instead of offering up a second piece of tech they offer up a single piece.

The people who care about the customers you are talking about are the game makers and without them the machine wouldn't exist in the first place anyway.

 

[davepoobond]

If I go see and like a Columbia Pictures film, I am a Sony fan and consumer by default. It is their company and a part of the Sony experience (ex: The "Casino Royale" trailer shown and used by Sony to market the PS3 at the San Francisco gamer's day). If I want to enjoy that Sony experience on my HD-DVD player, I can't. The only way I can enjoy that film in HD is if I buy a Bluray player. Bluray is primarily a Sony technology which is currently the highest priced HD format on the market. So, when Sony says they "never" will segregate their consumers, they are incorrect.

i think you misinterpreted what i meant.

when i bolded the "our" in the quote, its "Sony's" entertainment experience. and that equates to it being on Blu-Ray/PS3/Sony products, not HD-DVD/whatever.

 

[ManaByte]

A good question would be why, going forward, do you prefer HD-DVD?

To not derail this thread into another Blu-Ray/HD-DVD pissing match; it's probably because HD-DVD currently has a vastly superior library.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

A good question would be why, going forward, do you prefer HD-DVD?

It is cheaper, there is a better selection of movies currently, and I can buy a player for my X360 at $199.99.

 

[scarybore]

They've really been talking about this type of distribution with the PS3 and until that is released they can't really do anything.

That's fair enough. I will be really interested to see how fast Sony get this service up and running now that they have had a kick up the arse from Microsoft.

I wonder if this is a case where Next Gen contacted Sony about this? I know that's what suually happens whenever a rival makes a big announcement, they'll contact a rep for a response from them.

It wouldn't surprise me, it just seems very petty even for the games industry :lol

 

[Arsenal]

How is it dividing the userbase if it has nothing to do with gaming? If you have a core and really want to use the service, buy a HDD. Its really not that complicated.

Exactly. The media capabilities of the console are important, but certainly not to everyone. You have Nintendo and Sony each offering one of those options, and then you have MS offering both of them. All 3 are taking different approaches so it will be interesting to see if it pays off for MS trying to play on both sides of the fence.

 

[Vangellis]

Ken K: "I played that Gears of War game, and its such a piece of shit."

:lol :lol

 

[MrSardonic]

Ken K: "I planned to play that Gears of War game, but it was so ugly my eyes bled"

...for realism

 

[Rud13inJapan]

is this another Kris Graft article? seriously how did that guy get that job?

 

[Stinkles]

is this another Kris Graft article? seriously how did that guy get that job?

It's not an article, Next-Gen reprinted Sony's statement, verbatim, without any commentary or analysis. One would hope because they thought the nature of the Sony statement was news in itself...

 

[SolidSnakex]

That's fair enough. I will be really interested to see how fast Sony get this service up and running now that they have had a kick up the arse from Microsoft.

They should have a sampling of it up near launch to give people an idea of what to expect. That's how they're doing with PSone games, demos, arcade games ect. There's a Bond coming out the same day as the PS3, they should have several Bond movies up for example.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

i think you misinterpreted what i meant.

when i bolded the "our" in the quote, its "Sony's" entertainment experience. and that equates to it being on Blu-Ray/PS3/Sony products, not HD-DVD/whatever.

Right. But when I go to a theatre, it is not a Sony theatre. Nor is it a Paramount theatre. But Sony is claiming they would never segregate consumers using their content, but by engaging in this format war, that is precisely what they are doing. They are taking their content that is seen in theatres and saying to HD consumers that if they want to see it in HD, they will have to buy Bluray. They are a bit of the kettle calling the pot black.

 

[jj984jj]

I'm surprised it took them so long to say it. Adding HDMI to the former PS3 tard pack also gives them the gall to say things like this to MS now.

 

[davepoobond]

Right. But when I go to a theatre, it is not a Sony theatre. Nor is it a Paramount theatre. But Sony is claiming they would never segregate consumers using their content, but by engaging in this format war, that is precisely what they are doing. They are taking their content that is seen in theatres and saying to HD consumers that if they want to see it in HD, they will have to buy Bluray. They are a bit of the kettle calling the pot black.

that'd make sense if they sanctioned any part of HD-DVD. they're simply not supporting it, for obvious reasons. just like why Microsoft isn't supporting a console sony or vice versa

 

[The Bookerman]

Sony has issued a statement criticizing its rival Microsoft's TV and movies announcement, arguing that it cuts out Core system users, who will not be able to store the content, thereby splitting the user-base.

Microsoft's TV and movie downloads are available to owners of the higher-priced (and more popular) version of Xbox 360, but not to Core system owners who do not have a hard drive. A spokesperson for Sony offered, "PlayStation 3's content is designed for everyone to enjoy right out of the box, no matter which configuration you purchase. We would never segregate or shut out any of our consumers from our entertainment experience because they didn't buy the top of the line system. Both PlayStation 3 versions available on November 17 include hard drives for downloading content."

We'll have more on this from Microsoft later.

???

 

[bill0527]

They've really been talking about this type of distribution with the PS3 and until that is released they can't really do anything.

What? Sony can't make an announcement? Sony can't be bothered to outline a few details at the very least. You don't need to have the console sitting on store shelves to announce what your plans are for the console.

Sony simply got beat to the punch and I hope they learn from this. Their online network and starting content should have all been finalized and published by now. I have no idea why Sony continues to be so tight-lipped about the Playstation network unless they simply have no clue themselves at this point.

 

[Mojovonio]

also, didn't the PS2 modem add-on segregate the market more than this will ever do?

 

[kaching]

MS concerned about Sony's 1080p plans, Sony concerned about MS' TV/Movie download plans, these guys really look out for each other.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

that'd make sense if they sanctioned any part of HD-DVD. they're simply not supporting it, for obvious reasons. just like why Microsoft isn't supporting a console sony or vice versa

Am I not a Sony consumer if I go to see a Columbia Pictures film? Am I not being removed from the equation when they offer that very same film only on their own proprietory HD format (Bluray)? If they respected their Columbia Pictures film fans, Sony would give them the opportunity to watch Sony HD content on the player of the consumer's choice. Instead, they are only offering this HD content to those who buy their proprietory format (which is touted to be the higher end) and is also much more expensive. Thus, their statement is hypocritical.

 

[TheOMan]

Right. But when I go to a theatre, it is not a Sony theatre. Nor is it a Paramount theatre. But Sony is claiming they would never segregate consumers using their content, but by engaging in this format war, that is precisely what they are doing. They are taking their content that is seen in theatres and saying to HD consumers that if they want to see it in HD, they will have to buy Bluray. They are a bit of the kettle calling the pot black.

I'm thinking they *may* have been referring to the console market in this particular instance and context.