gregor7777
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RubberJohnny said:
That's....not bizarre at all. You are combating two different types of issues there. But I'm pretty sure you know that.
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Sony sues George 'geohot' Hotz and fail0verflow over PS3 jailbreak.
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That's....not bizarre at all. You are combating two different types of issues there. But I'm pretty sure you know that.
RubberJohnny said:
With hacking the hardware you have to do it once and it's done, and you're dealing with a single piece of hardware which you can compromise on its own.
With individual games, you have to bypass the protection for each game separately. You can be more cunning with the form the protection takes, as well, making it easier to disguise. I quite enjoyed unprotecting software on home computers - not to distribute, just for the challenge of it, and some of the protection systems were incredibly cunning - still remember one where you could take out the protection that rebooted the computer on loading a copied version of the game, then half way through the game the characters' heads would become detached from their bodies. Genius.
Also for online games, you can do a certain amount of double-checking on other nodes. Because you can't compromise them and fake their record of what's happened, you can't bypass that sort of check. It's less like hacking a PS3 to ignore a check on whether the disc in the drive is protected, and more like telling PSN that you have the right to download a game that you haven't bought - no hack is going to allow that.
I can think of a handful of ways to automatically detect some of the hacks described here, and a handful of ways to deal with them, just off the top of my head. The only reason they haven't put them in place already is a clearly inaccurate assumption that the system's protection is unassailable.
iapetus said:
I'd also add that it's a multi-platform game, and one of those platforms is one that's *inherently* open already; they're writing a game to run on both the 'unassailable' PS3 and the 'come in, make yourself comfortable, have a cuppa' PC. Did they not care about security on other platforms? High-level checks would, after all, be platform independent.
Pureauthor
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Machado said:
She's retired.
Metalmurphy
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Psychotext
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Idiots.
ClovingWestbrook
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sangreal said:
Nintendo and Apple should sue Sony.
If by "stop" you mean, "have them cheat as much as they want" then yes, it's super easy.RubberJohnny said:
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Mailenstein
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Wow @ people running their mouth after she disappeared. Cheap cowards.
CadetMahoney
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I read that in an Alan Wake voice.Dai101 said:
Meus Renaissance
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Why For? said:
I don't know about that. I don't recall Microsoft going after Bunnie nearly like Sony is going after f0f or geohot. I don't recall Microsoft going after c4eva at all. The way Microsoft handled the Xbox would be a smarter blueprint for Sony to follow. Even if they win the lawsuit it isn't going to change anything.
I'm sure they wouldn't. The difference here is MS is being realistic about the current environment, and proactively looking for a solution that will work for most people.Why For? said:
As has been said about PS3, the push for hacking wasn't there until otherOS was removed. For WP7, it sounds like they're trying to find a viable homebrew solution that doesn't involve piracy.
NemesisPrime
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Raistlin said:
For WP7 homebrew already exists. You can just develop for it using VS2010
Aha! I get it. Sony is clever.sangreal said:
If the judge seals the Wii keys, then Sony can say they have an established precedent that secret keys are illegal and Sony wins.
If the judge doesn't seal the Wii keys, then Sony drags Nintendo down to hell with them.
I'm pretty sure you need to be baked to get this good at law.
Megadragon15
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How valid is this rumor: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2172...wart_ps3_pirates_with_bluray_serial_keys.html ?
demosthenes
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Megadragon15 said:
No idea but that rumor was floating around when Blu-ray was in its infancy. If true, legit users will be screwed. Hopefully this rumor is as baseless as it was back then.
NemesisPrime
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Megadragon15 said:
0% valid.
captmcblack
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Megadragon15 said:
This would literally be the end of the PS3 as a competitive device in this industry.
It would instantly be over when word gets out that you have to "activate" your games on PS3 - meaning no used games, no swapping games with your friends, etc on PS3 - but you wouldn't have to on other devices.
Shit would be over.
Meus Renaissance
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jcm said:
Not just for new owners, but old ones. For those that don't have an internet connection at home and take their PS3 to a friends house - who has a net connection - and just so happens to update the firmware, then take it back home..well. You wouldn't be able to rent games/Blu-rays, or purchase them second hand as well.
If there were going to try to approach this from a software point of view, then it would have to be something as extreme as this. No?
Regarding that DRM rumor ... lol
As has been said, what about people with no internet connection? Secondly, even if some sort of DRM solution for games was created, it makes zero sense to include BD movies into it.
The issue with BD movie piracy has nothing to do with PS3. If the BDA wanted to combat it, they'd need a solution that works with all BD players.
hahaha
Until I got to that last sentence I was thinking to myself ... dude, just how high are you?
As has been said, what about people with no internet connection? Secondly, even if some sort of DRM solution for games was created, it makes zero sense to include BD movies into it.
The issue with BD movie piracy has nothing to do with PS3. If the BDA wanted to combat it, they'd need a solution that works with all BD players.
ruby_onix said:
hahaha
Until I got to that last sentence I was thinking to myself ... dude, just how high are you?
ScrabbleBanshee
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WaltJay said:
Those password wheels were hard core. I chucked my mountain of PC game boxes full of password wheels and clever manual text decoders from the 80's and early 90's long ago... and I've regretted it since.
sajj316 said:
Nope. Just some routine filings. I continue to upload the ones I bother to acquire here: http://ia700401.us.archive.org/35/i...d.235965/gov.uscourts.cand.235965.docket.html
I'll post if I see anything interesting though
CadetMahoney
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I agree. Sony wouldn't do it, but they're pretty stupid to begin with anyway.captmcblack said:
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