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In what way it is a minority if it occupies 1/5 of the global cloud market? Alibaba and Google are the minorities there.I said it's a minority of the cloud market. In fact, a 20%:
In what way it is a minority if it occupies 1/5 of the global cloud market? Alibaba and Google are the minorities there.I said it's a minority of the cloud market. In fact, a 20%:
Minority: "less than half of a total number or amount; the smaller part of something"In what way it is a minority if it occupies 1/5 of the global cloud market? Alibaba and Google are the minorities there.
That's some new narrative or something. I wonder between Android and Apple who is the minority in the mobile marketMinority: "less than half of a total number or amount; the smaller part of something"
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/minority
And yes, 20% is less than 50%
It's the reality. A 20% market share is a minority of a market. Same goes with MS in consoles, if they have a 20% they are a minority. Doesn't matter if they sell more than Souljaboy and Ouya.That's some new narrative or something. I wonder between Android and Apple who is the minority in the mobile market
Microsoft got their fingers in all the pies.Ubitus's backend infrastructure is built on Azure.
Ubitus K.K.
www.ubitus.net
There really is no escaping the big three in cloud compute. Amazon AWS, Microsoft Azure, and Google Cloud.
That's why they're a 2 trillion dollar company. They gonna rule the world together with Amazon, Alphabet and Tencent.Microsoft got their fingers in all the pies.
Who cares? Azure is being used in this case.I'm not sure why all the Azure talk... the company is not focused in infrastructure but streaming tech.
They can use any Could Infrastructure they want.
Rule the world? I just want them to get SeriesX back on store shelves here in the UK!That's why they're a 2 trillion dollar company. They gonna rule the world together with Amazon, Alphabet and Tencent.
Yes, all these things like game servers, PSN servers, PS Now servers, shops, websites, and so on are platform agnostic. One day can be running on Azure (or another one) and some day they can migrate it to AWS (or another one) because they got a better price deal. Another day they can migrate to Google (or another one) because of some scalability reason, etc.
Surely it's as simple as backup one server and restore to another?I think (or rather, know) that you're really underestimating just how complex these things are. They aren't just going to move, because they get a better price somewhere else. It's a gigantic undertaking and it's extremely costly to migrate an entire setup like that.
Original title said Sony would move away from Azure because they are investing in Ubitus. Until it was pointed out to OP that Ubitus runs on Azure and title was changed.I'm not sure why all the Azure talk... the company is not focused in infrastructure but streaming tech.
They can use any Could Infrastructure they want.
I think (or rather, know) that you're really underestimating just how complex these things are. They aren't just going to move, because they get a better price somewhere else. It's a gigantic undertaking and it's extremely costly to migrate an entire setup like that.
They are minority because out of all the home console group they have the smallest share. And even then nobody calls them minority but more like having smaller market share.if they have a 20% they are a minority.
Especially those guys that are using Cloud FormationIt really isn't. Infrastructure as a code is real and developers can adapt this to any platform with relative ease
With 5 minutes downtime. Single switch - and all services automatically transferred from SageMaker to Azure ML, from Lambda to Azure Functions.Surely it's as simple as backup one server and restore to another?
It is certainly not booming due to the amount of cloud providers...It really isn't. Infrastructure as a code is real and developers can adapt this to any platform with relative ease (AWS, Azure, or Google Cloud). This is a huge reason why cloud computing is booming
It really isn't. Infrastructure as a code is real and developers can adapt this to any platform with relative ease (AWS, Azure, or Google Cloud). This is a huge reason why cloud computing is booming. To simplify, you can literally have your whole infrastructure setup with a click of a button. You can even build service redundancy between different cloud providers with ease.
Minority: "less than half of a total number or amount; the smaller part of something"
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/minority
And yes, 20% is less than 50%
Can you provide more info on this?hire the same outsourcing data center companies, who handle the majority of their physical servers
At launch it was pretty rough but afterwards it was smooth. Completed the entire game a few months ago and I was pretty impressed with it.I was going to add wasn't there a screenshot of a queue to play Control?
Well, for the price of ONE new game, you can get FOUR TO FIVE months of streaming many games.For god sake... why are they continuing to persue this bullshit. Just sell consoles and sell games.
Do these companies not learn that nobody wants this, except as maybe an emergency access to games like Destiny when Xur has something good and you're away from home.
Only when you reach the end of those 5 months and realize you own nothing and can no longer access anything.Well, for the price of ONE new game, you can get FOUR TO FIVE months of streaming many games.
Does sound kind of stupid I guess.
These companies like MS, Google, AWS have their own data centers, but in addition them outsource many 3rd party companies, who own the majority of the data centers around the world.Can you provide more info on this?
I thought they were messing their own data centers. At least that's what Google and AWS claim to do
One click is more of a statement on how relatively easy it is. Curious. What experience do you have on developing cloud applications to state that?Absolutely it is. It depends on the complexity, of course, but you're not just clicking a button and *poof* you've migrated to AWS or Google. It's not happening.
Oh, but people DO want this, as well as publishers. Otherwise they wouldn't pursue the cloud.For god sake... why are they continuing to persue this bullshit. Just sell consoles and sell games.
Do these companies not learn that nobody wants this, except as maybe an emergency access to games like Destiny when Xur has something good and you're away from home.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/artic...re-enix-invest-in-cloud-gaming-company-ubitus
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ubitus-usher-in-the-cloud-game-era-301249131.html
It's curious that Sony is investing here despite their MoU with MS.
One click is more of a statement on how relatively easy it is. Curious. What experience do you have on developing cloud applications to state that?
For example. You have code that identifies what infrastructure is needed. An AWS EC2 Instance is an Azure Virtual Machine. A function is a function. Linux is Linux. The services they (the top cloud providers) offer are pretty much in parity of one another. It isn't some massive tasking as you state it is. Will it require work? Yes.
Why couldn't they afford it? It's probably about £10 billion investment for long term. It's just probably much easier to use a third party for Sony.Lol, no?
If you want to have huge cloud service available around the world you have literally 2 options
1. You build it yourself
2. You will use Alibaba Cloud, AWS, Google Cloud or Microsoft Azure
So yeah. Sony is not leaving Azure because the can't afford building their own infrastructure.
You forgot Apple the richest companyThat's why they're a 2 trillion dollar company. They gonna rule the world together with Amazon, Alphabet and Tencent.
Apple might be the minority in the mobile market in marketshare but when it comes to the profit you'll quickly realise Apple is the MAJORITYThat's some new narrative or something. I wonder between Android and Apple who is the minority in the mobile market
Apple is the minority in the mobile marketApple might be the minority in the mobile market in marketshare
They are a minority compared to Android and the mighty Windows PhoneApple is the minority in the mobile market
Now that's hilarious
10 billion to cover whole earth with servers?Why couldn't they afford it? It's probably about £10 billion investment for long term. It's just probably much easier to use a third party for Sony.
I left Apple out on purpose. They might have buttloads of money, but their influence isn't that big. I listed the companies who essentially own the world's data infrastructure.You forgot Apple the richest company
I'm not a developer, but I spend my working hours within Azure.
Migrating a single server that isn't dependant on any other services might be simple enough. Moving an entire infrastructure? Not so much. Especially if you're relying on Azure services like Playfab.
I think your mistaken. You don't need to cover the whole earth. You need the Americas, Europe and Asia. Your not gonna build a huge data centre where you only have a few customers. £10 billion is more than enough. Nearly $14 billion in usd. In 2020 total cloud infrastructure spend was $39 billion.10 billion to cover whole earth with servers?
I think you underestimated the cost of building cloud network.
But Apple have some of the best cloud infrastructure. They just don't rent it out as far as I know. And as for influence? C'mon man your kidding? Apple as brand is far more valuable than MS.I left Apple out on purpose. They might have buttloads of money, but their influence isn't that big. I listed the companies who essentially own the world's data infrastructure.
You need to cover whole Earth if you want to have a gaming streaming service. Because longer the physical distance between you and cloud server, higher the latency.I think your mistaken. You don't need to cover the whole earth. You need the Americas, Europe and Asia. Your not gonna build a huge data centre where you only have a few customers. £10 billion is more than enough. Nearly $14 billion in usd. In 2020 total cloud infrastructure spend was $39 billion.
Yeah $39 billion for every single company combined including Amazon, Google, Apple, MS, Alibaba, Tencent and loads of others.You need to cover whole Earth if you want to have a gaming streaming service. Because longer the physical distance between you and cloud server, higher the latency.
It's insane how more smooth games are running through xcloud when I'm streaming from Polish servers as opposed to Germany servers.
"In 2020 total cloud infrastructure spend was $39 billion." yeah. That was in one year though...
If it was wise and financially reasonable for Sony to build their own cloud network they would so it don't you think?Yeah $39 billion for every single company combined including Amazon, Google, Apple, MS, Alibaba, Tencent and loads of others.
Sony don't need MS Azure capacity because they are only looking after Sony needs and not third party. So $14 billion is enough for Sony
I already answered that for you. It was you stating Sony couldn't afford it but they can as it's not hundreds of billions. I already answered that for you. "Why couldn't they afford it? It's probably about £10 billion investment for long term. It's just probably much easier to use a third party for Sony".If it was wise and financially reasonable for Sony to build their own cloud network they would so it don't you think?
Is that why Azure is making a fortune for MS?It's expensive to build the infrastructure, but it's not expensive to rent it. People are under the wrong idea if they think any of these big companies take (proportionally) a lot of money from the companies that use it. The point is to have many costumers. And with competition, the prices become even better.
If one day these companies decide to act too cute, the market will be regulated and direct governmental intervention, so they won't. Probably one of the most pathetic and embarrassing things to watch in this forum though, watching fanboys making a meal out of cloud infrastructure.
Clown: "YO the energy companies making a killing yo, imagine all that money energy providers are making from Azure!".
Is that why Azure is making a fortune for MS?
Music & movies allow you to save them for offline use. Netflix allows you to do that and Apple Music, Spotify, whoever allows you to download or save your music playlists for offline use. Gaming can be done in a similar way but services that are solely focusing on streaming right now (e.g. Stadia & Luna) don't allow you to do the same. With gaming, as far as I can see right now, in order to have that kind of experience, there will always need to be dedicated hardware.All of these disadvantages (aside from latency) exist with video and music, and I've experienced them all personally too. Yet it's by far the #1 way people consume the media, people just don't care that much because the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.
The advantage is instant access on any device anywhere in the world to a ton of stuff for a low monthly cost.
"People are under the wrong idea if they think any of these big companies take (proportionally) a lot of money from the companies that use it". I suppose Amazon, Google and Apple aren't making anything from Cloud?Yes. They have a lot of costumers, it’s recurring revenue, they have services on top of, companies all over the world use and pay for(including the US government). And that data is worth a lot of cheese too.
Sorry you don’t know this. Now you do. You’re welcome.