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This is what a significant lack of first party games does to you:
Someone please check on him.
Quick to the GAF art archives with this masterpiece. I love it. I'm getting a framed print, can you sign it mate?
Jokes aside, do you see the length of the console bars in that chart? SNES was huge, Sony wanted in, Ninty/Sony failed and Sony brought in PS1 & 2. A new duopoly was created between Ninty and Sony with the demise of Sega. Later after that was done, behind the scenes MS was creating Xbox, released it NOV 2011 and broke the duopoly of the console market. In court one could historically and factually accurate argue Xbox increased competition in the market while Sony/Ninty shrunk competition. I think you'll find it's a pretty repetitive playbook in business but especially highlighted and a more extreme case looking at Sony of this time we're talking about. It's not a good look in court to now point the finger at the poster child whom for entered an existing dominated market and created sustained a third industry heavy weight competitor. Read that again.
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This court case is a fucking joke. If you want a direct comparison I don't see Sony selling their first party games on Nintendo's console back then, now MS actually does this and Sony complain? Laughable. The FTC are factually going to get hit pretty hard by the market, MS/Xbox don't have to do shit. The onus is on the FTC for the block, not MS for the buyout.
Quick to the GAF art archives with this masterpiece. I love it. I'm getting a framed print, can you sign it mate?
And here I thought you'd have blue balls to keep with your Sony theme.
Yeah, there are definitely people out there, mentally ill people, who get straight up unhinged regarding game consoles. tribalism is subconscious, but most people know how to limit and supress it as to operate in social settings. Maybe they let it loose on message boards. People like tim dog don’t have that skill, its likely due to other undiagnosed disorders.He saw one person about to buy an XBOX and says " xbox got npd on lock"
Lol what?
This is what a significant lack of first party games does to you:
Someone please check on him.
I keep it sealed for the safety of those around me. Once I unleash its full power it turns light blue
But Coudnt you also argue that sony made the industry more competitive when entering the sega/nintendo duopoly. Sega just couldnt hold a line with their poor decision making at the time.
Never saw either of them buying two massive publishers but I agree that ftc won't win the case tho. As long as ms supports steam I don't really mind.
Technically one can argue anything, doesn't make it a good idea or a valid argument that is accepted. Sony in, Sega out. It just does not get any more crystal for me. Obviously, the courts/judge(s) make the final ruling of who wins and who loses. I just don't see it healthy for the industry to block this.
On revenue, YoY and profits all the console competitors are doing some of their best years ever, with some peaks and troughs. Why regulate an industry that is performing historically the best ever and growing in new ways and new companies/money? e.g. mobile, subs, spread into TV or streaming, crossplay, work environment improvements, remote work ops, more indies/marketplaces, EPIC/fortnite, Tencent, Steam etc. There's no reason for the FTC case in the market currently or in the foreseeable 10-year future.
Pointing outProjecting again?
This was classic:
He is horribly uninformed on this subject. In the first five years that the Xbox existed, Microsoft had acquired 7 studios. In the first ten years that the Xbox existed, Microsoft had acquired 9 studios.
By contrast, in the first five years that the PlayStation existed, Sony had acquired 1 studio. In the first ten years that PlayStation existed, Sony had acquired 4 studios.
Xbox fanboys want to act like it was Sony that started the acquiring spree, but they don't know their own history. At the time when Microsoft decided to jump into the console game Sony had only acquired one studio (which had been acquired in 1993). By the time the Xbox came out (November of 2001) Sony had acquired 4 studios and Microsoft had acquired 6 studios. If we exclude Sony's sole 1993 acquisition (which was long before Microsoft entertained the idea of getting into the console gaming business), we see that Microsoft acquired 3 studios (one of which was Bungie) from 1999-2000, and only after those acquisitions occurred did Sony began acquiring more studios.
Note: I'm not saying that there is anything inherently wrong with the acquisitions that occurred. I'm just saying that certain fanboys have this misconception that the Xbox was the underdog who was constantly getting shafted by Sony's acquisitions and exclusivity agreements, but the actual history shows that Microsoft started this. Again, I'm not discussing if these moves are right or wrong. I'm only discussing the actual course of events that can be proven.
Is it big? Yes.If this was a small acquisition I would agree. The problem is that this is one of the largest third-party publishers in the world, and this puts Microsoft's hands in more cookie jars than just console gaming. It impacts the mobile gaming market, the traditional console gaming market, and the subscription gaming market. On top of all of that, it's a console maker removing the ability to compete by taking a third-party publisher that multiple console makers have previously used (and currently use) off of the market. This isn't a small thing, and any regulatory body would be foolish to just wave this on through without getting into the weeds to determine if this deal should be blocked or not.
Oh you are right. Maybe the announcement of the original xbox pushed Sega to the decision to discontinue the dreamcast. Either way my point was no one but Sega is to be blammed.
I am not following your fanboy logical hate here.You can clearly tell who the PS fanboys are in this thread. At least I’ll get to play Starfield on my Xbox when it releases. Pc players will enjoy it too. PS losses out, now you know that’s how it feels. I’m sick of all the fucking exclusivity deals Sony has with multi platform content in multi-platform games. Fuck off Sony PS. They can’t even keep a good IP going like Gravity Rush and kill the servers, fuck Sony PlayStation.
Of course, the core argument is just that. However, one is stating CoD is important to their ecosystem, and the other is stating CoD is just a run of the mill middleware.Imagine actually reading what someone wrote instead of imputing what they wrote. Nothing I said had anything to do with how much money COD makes. This is all about stopping players from leaving one platform (and one subscription service) over another. Period. It obviously has nothing to do with stagnation of video game development, which is what each company is arguing in their favor one way or another.
. . .or should be obvious.
Straight shill.Bro that colteastwood guy..hahaha...
That's horrifying. I love it.jimbo got under his skin
No but it's completly hypocritical to accuse your competitor of wanting to making them smaller when the subject of debate is the acquisition of the biggest publisher on the markert owning 30+ franchises among which are the biggest seller in the current video game market.Is Sony encouraging this?
It's why I call him the gaming politician. Accuse the other side in which you are guilty of yourself.No but it's completly hypocritical to accuse your competitor of wanting to making them smaller when the subject of debate is the acquisition of the biggest publisher on the markert owning 30+ franchises among which are the biggest seller in the current video game market.
Let them do it, a deal is a deal. Wether it's blocked by the FTC or not is not my business, but Spencer and co should stop to cry in front of the public and just shut the fuck up.
He is making free money from this.Checked a few of his posts, wow. How can one be such a fanboy publicly at his age? I'd be embarassed to leave my basement and the dude is posting real life pictures while acting like he's 12. We are truly doomed as a species.
Next year!Shut the fuck up and release some games
Is it big? Yes.
Does it create a monopoly? No.
Does it freeze out competition or price fixing etc? No.
It is big.
It has the POTENTIAL to cause a monopoly.
It does HARM competition by not allowing other companies to compete on the same level.
This circles back to LONG TERM potential outcomes of this acqusition. Short-term, it may not have a big impact, but long-term as technology matures and people shift ecosystems it can be a very big deal, much more than many are letting on, and certainly it's why Microsoft tried to acquire them to begin with.
That's a nice buzzword laden reply with zero supporting evidence. Prove it.
It's more dangerous to have governments dictate which company can compete for market leadership or dominance.
Technically one can argue anything, doesn't make it a good idea or a valid argument that is accepted. Sony in, Sega out. It just does not get any more crystal for me. Obviously, the courts/judge(s) make the final ruling of who wins and who loses. I just don't see it healthy for the industry to block this.
On revenue, YoY and profits all the console competitors are doing some of their best years ever, with some peaks and troughs. Why regulate an industry that is performing historically the best ever and growing in new ways and new companies/money? e.g. mobile, subs, spread into TV or streaming, crossplay, work environment improvements, remote work ops, more indies/marketplaces, EPIC/fortnite, Tencent, Steam etc. There's no reason for the FTC case in the market currently or in the foreseeable 10-year future.
How do you prove a hypothetical?
I don't see the government dictating purchases of lesser scale.
How is buying up the biggest third party publisher in the consumer’s best interest? It leads to market distortions that can negatively impact consumers.
That’s not competing. Microsoft couldn’t make this acquisition without being a tech conglomerate. Why can’t Microsoft compete without wholesale buyouts of some of the largest publishers?
You talk about building a rival to CoD as if that’s such an easy and trivial pursuit. CoD has two decades of importance, history, and large swaths of dev resources to continually churn them out. It’s so entrenched that competing is an impossibility in that genre, no one comes close even if it’s of comparable quality. The brand is simply too big.
Titanfall is completely irrelevant in comparison, it’s not making a strong argument for your position
I'd recommend you check my post history on this thread and the other ActiBliz deal thread. It's all in there already. How to prove a hypothetical? You test it, again and again. You know the scientific method. As I stated above in other posts, the onus is on the FTC to block not MS for the buyout.
Never said it was easy as pie. You cannot unbiasedly say Respawn are not flying out of the gate, almost mirroring COD's path to success all those years/decades ago. Would you say Respawn is 10% there, 90% there? You get the idea. It shows competition with a specific example directly born from COD devs who split off to create Respawn, but by all means ignore the other top 10 points I put above. Right now your posts are baseless opinion and I question them. My opinions have supporting facts and links or graphics to "prove" the claim.
I'm still going to continue to play games on a bunch of systems and mediums, I find it interesting how varied the opinions and perceptions are on gaming industry dealings. It's going to be interesting post the sale closing and the FTC case should they not withdraw after agreeable concessions.
I'm having a hard time figuring out if this is a troll account or not.
I was just sorting my games out. I say vote with your wallet, and I did, this is my Xbox One/ X physical collection so far. My Xbox 360 collection is double this. I actually got to sort that out too…
I definitely prefer Microsoft over Sony for sure and will continue to support them. Sony is too restrictive for my taste.
There only 1 version of Jim - victim Jim - Microsoft wants to kill playstation, cod is the greates franchise ever, please regulators don’t allow ms to take our toys.also
Kumbaya Phil - Let's all play together no console/content war. Peace and love (powered by XBOX)
Bad guy Phil - We want to disrupt the market before amazon or apple /Sony isn't are focus.
Victim Phil - Sony is being mean
tell me I'm lying
- Bungie was sold, bought back and then sold again to Sony. Where's the anti-competitive behaviour on that one? Sony timed exclusives is where.
Is this true? Hasn’t Sony or Nintendo done this at some point?So far Xbox is the only platform who has actively taken established series or games permanently away from users of other platforms.
I think Bayonetta counts, but I can’t recall Sony having done it. They do lots of timed deals, but they’ve never shut a platform out permanently.Is this true? Hasn’t Sony or Nintendo done this at some point?
Is this true? Hasn’t Sony or Nintendo done this at some point?
and how many exclusive third party deals could be made..I just wonder how many great games xbox should be releasing with that 70b spended!
No they wouldn't. Your projecting Xbox fangirl nonsense because that's what MS does to compete. Remember when they wanted to buy Yahoo to compete with Google Search?I stopped reading at " they're happy with what they all ready have".
That's total bullshit! You know damn well if they could afford to purchase entire publishers, needed or no, theyd do it in a heartbeat! Keep that shit 100%, my dude! No need for bullshit.