Skellig Gra
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Sign me up, would be awesome if true. Disc drives are a relic at this point.
The problem here is what you call a hybrid?
Nintendo could have 2 form factors the share the same media after all.
Come Hybrid deniers! Crash against me and be broken.
If both console and handheld use cartridges, I bet there will be some universal cartridges and some that only fit on one of the two, kind of like the 3ds cartidges that are made so they cant fit on a regular DS
It would be too expensive to have carts with both enough storage capacity AND speed to justify the switch. Not happening.
Sure but that's not the point- 8GB cards are still likely orders of magnitude more expensive than blu-ray discs or Wii U discs to manufacture, yet they are still able to sell for a good amount cheaper. Likely 85 cents - 1 dollar vs 5-10 cents for a BRD.
The point is, a ~1$ to manufacture card still has a MSRP $20 lower than a 10 cent to manufacture disc. Therefore it's fairly easy to conclude that the manufacturing cost of the medium is not a large factor in determining its MSRP.
Will this shorten load times? If so, that's a big benefit.
Doubtful that cards will prevent huge-ass Day One patches, though. I always thought that games install pretty fast on PS4, now patches dl and installing on the other hand.I'm fed up of installing games on PS4 so sign me up! Didn't take long at all to fill up 500gigs.
3DS games use a 75nm production node. Macronix is moving to 32nm soon though, right in time for NX launch.Don't 3DS carts top out at 8GB? Or is it 4GB? Console games can be several times larger.
Nintendo uses mask ROM (technically NROM) for their games though, which is generally cheaper than flash memory. 3DS do include a small pool of flash on the card for saves though.Obviously, I don't know the numbers, but I'll put this chart, ripped from the internet, this is a study of final consumer prices on computer memory. So, you see that by 2017, flash memory will cost to a final consumer (to you, buying from newegg or a store) about $1/10GB; imagine how much cheaper Nintendo can get flash memory that is read only. A non issue, really.
Hybrid platform yes, hybrid device no. When Iwata denied NX being a hybrid he was referring to the latter, and basically telegraphed the former with the iOS and Android comparisons.Come Hybrid deniers! Crash against me and be broken.
Doubtful that cards will prevent huge-ass Day One patches, though. I always thought that games install pretty fast on PS4, now patches dl and installing on the other hand.
But the install times on XOne are the most dreading ...
This makes sense if games are compatible with both a handheld and a home console. Otherwise I really don't see what benefit cartridges would have
Nintendo uses mask ROM (technically NROM) for their games though, which is generally cheaper than flash memory. 3DS do include a small pool of flash on the card for saves though.
It's possible. I know DS games also used different memory types for saves depending on the size needed.Actually I think there are two type of 3DS cartridges. One has small flash or something for saves and a "fake ROM" chip that is Macronix specialty, one uses flash for everything. The latter is used in ex. Pokemon because of big saves and/or big amount of files. The idea was introduced with WarioWare DIY on DS, but that was a one-time deal while it apparently happens relatively frequently on 3DS.
I don't know, ask the pirates.
NX using cartridges would be the biggest selling point for me, but only if they're NES or SNES formfactor.
Can games launch off of SD cards?
Can games launch off of SD cards?
Can games launch off of SD cards?
Gross, just gross. I'd be okay with if it's for the handheld games...
That's not happening. At all.
That's not happening. At all.
Too big for the handheld so missing the point of carts in the first place.As was mentioned earlier in the thread. HuCards would be great.
Except manufacturing cost of the media has little to do with MSRP.
Quoting my post about $40 3DS cards vs $60 Wii U discs:
I'm basically expecting SD cards, maybe a little bigger. I think calling them cartridges is sort of missing the point.
I really doubt it. The handheld yeah, the home console most def. not.
If anything I'd say the only cross compatible games will be the digital purchases, to give further incentive to go digital.
Physical library is separated, digital is shared.
If it circumvents longer load times and required game installing...I'm 100% cool with that!
I wasn't very keen on the length of the Wii U, just looks odd.I'm hoping this news is true just for the idea of console size. The Wii-U managed to fit Xbox 360/PS3 level hardware into a box that was half the size. Imagine how small NX could be if they ditch the disc drive?!
Did you seriously use 8GB SD cards with shitty bandwidth to make a point? For cartridges to have an advantage against installing from a disc onto an HDD like PS4/XB1 on a CONSOLE like the NX, you'd need both higher density and higher speeds than that. And that's REALLY expensive.
SD card transfer speeds are also pretty fucking bullshit, so I'd hope that's not the standard being reached for here...
Disc less reliable than carts... Do you use them as coasters or frisbees? :0Why though? 3DS carts for instance look much better than these massive discs and save a lot more room too. Even if they go smaller size and closer to SD/micro SD cards it's better.
I'm done with discs tbh. They're so 90's. Not very reliable. I wish all consoles ditch them.
SD card transfer speed is worst than DVD/BD ? Whatever the SD format, SDHC,SDXC, etc, I don't think so...
You can get 32GB micro SD cards with over 70MB/s read speeds for under $10 retail from major manufacturers. Now consider those are consumer retail prices and for a more expensive type of memory than what Nintendo uses for their cards.Did you seriously use 8GB SD cards with shitty bandwidth to make a point? For cartridges to have an advantage against installing from a disc onto an HDD like PS4/XB1 on a CONSOLE like the NX, you'd need both higher density and higher speeds than that. And that's REALLY expensive.