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Spider-Man Homecoming - Official Trailer #2

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What about Nolan da gawd? Less than 4 months from Dunkirk and we still haven't seen jack shit!

I don't know that Dunkirk is a good example, since everyone gets the basic gist of WW2, and can look up the battle Dunkirk if they wanted to. The trailers have been focusing on atmosphere and character moments. That is probably the right choice with that sort of thing, unless you are going the "Based on an inspiring true story" route that Hacksaw Ridge or Unbroken took.

Interstellar's campaign definitely played up the ambiguity though. Inception didn't really try to be secretive in its marketing, but the structure of the film made it pretty difficult to outline in 2 minutes.

I don't remember the ad campaign for TDKR, other than the fact that people complained about Bane's voice.
 
Love the trailer.

But a little part of me wishes we could see spidey & the Defenders in this movie. Stark is cool too but leave him out of anything until infinity war starts.
 
Story beats ain't a story.
Plot synopsis ain't a movie.
Metronome click ain't a song.
Table of contents ain't a book.

Commercials don't have a soul.

This thread, man!

Let me just touch on this topic a little bit. Now, I don't plan on seeing this movie, but for some people they may feel robbed. When they watch a movie they expect to be entertained. They want to feel happy, sad, scared, excited, or whatever and a lot of people want to feel those emotions with their friends in a movie theater. Knowing Tony is going to take his suit before even seeing the film robs them of the feeling they could have shared with their friends (I'm assuming). Sure there will be other things happening, but the lose one surprise or emotion because it was "spoiled" in the trailer. You could point the blame at them and say they should have skipped the trailer but that doesn't void their right to be upset I think.
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Let me just touch on this topic a little bit. Now, I don't plan on seeing this movie, but for some people they may feel robbed. When they watch a movie they expect to be entertained. They want to feel happy, sad, scared, excited, or whatever and a lot of people want to feel those emotions with their friends in a movie theater. Knowing Tony is going to take his suit before even seeing the film robs them of the feeling they could have shared with their friends (I'm assuming). Sure there will be other things happening, but the lose one surprise or emotion because it was "spoiled" in the trailer. You could point the blame at them and say they should have skipped the trailer but that doesn't void their right to be upset I think.
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It kind of does void that though. Trailers have things from the movie, and there's even already been one trailer. I don't see how a trailer spoiling first act scenes can upset people who knew that trailers tend to show off scenes and they opened the trailer and everything.
 
I don't remember the ad campaign for TDKR, other than the fact that people complained about Bane's voice.

I remember Hans Zimmer talking up how they got like 473568743 people together to chant the Bane theme or whatever. And then they used that as the teaser.
 
The trailer for Batman Begins is...fine. Really obnoxious white flashes.

The Dark Knight's was pretty great.

They both really play up the romance.

Dark Knight teaser with the reveal of the joker's look was so good. especially when they show him in jail.

this Dark Knight Rises trailer is dope too. the build up of the dark knight theme is beautiful. probably the best of all the nolan batman trailers. could do without that shitty final scene tho lmao. but man Zimmer's arrangement of the theme in here is fantastic.

"You don't owe these people anymore. You've given them everything"

powerful. the last words said to Nolan as he considered coming back to the DCEU.
 
Let me just touch on this topic a little bit. Now, I don't plan on seeing this movie, but for some people they may feel robbed. When they watch a movie they expect to be entertained. They want to feel happy, sad, scared, excited, or whatever and a lot of people want to feel those emotions with their friends in a movie theater. Knowing Tony is going to take his suit before even seeing the film robs them of the feeling they could have shared with their friends (I'm assuming). Sure there will be other things happening, but the lose one surprise or emotion because it was "spoiled" in the trailer. You could point the blame at them and say they should have skipped the trailer but that doesn't void their right to be upset I think.

I think their "right to be upset" is largely artificial and unearned, though. Primarily beacuse, again, they don't actually know what the fuck they're talking about, especially in regards to the "experience" they're attempt to protect.

(nevermind that the protection of this experience is immediately put in jeopardy the second you decide you're voluntarily seeking out all the fuckin' marketing that's being made available)

You end up with a situation where people who automatically presume there is nothing the movie could do in its remaining two hours of in-context storytelling that could possibly surprise them (as if surprise is the only worthwhile emotion to be gleaned from a story) voluntarily seek out marketing partially to "get hyped" but mostly as an excuse to complain to whoever is listening that a thing they never actually owned, was never actually given to them, and is still 100% a hypothetical (the aforementioned "experience") was rudely and unduly taken away from them by the carelessness of the marketing team who put together this soulless trailer that nobody made them fucking watch.

So you've got a whole bunch of people presuming to know exactly what experience they're going to get from a movie, getting mad when that presumption is (presumably) reinforced by 2 minutes of out-of-context imagery and sound that may or may not contain the basic plot skeleton.

(of course even the basic shape of the plot skeleton isn't known, because they haven't actually watched the movie yet.)

If people actually cared as much about experiencing things as they did protecting against the purity of hypothetical experiences they never actually have, they'd probably enjoy more stories.
 
Never forget this masterpiece. Someday, somehow...
Batman is joining the CW Superhero lineup?
"My name is Bruce Wayne. For ten years, after the death of my parents i was trained by the league of shadows. I have finally returned home . with the help of my trusted butler i only have only one goal: to save my city. To do this, I must become someone else. I must become something else. I must become the Batman"
 
Jesus has nothing to do with this.
Anyway, I don't care what he does all the time so I don't understand your point. I said I HOPE he doesn't team up with the Avengers anymore; primarily in his own movies. Are you flustered?

He's likely going to run into more Avengers/Marvel heroes in his own movies in the future, assuming he stays in the MCU. You're gonna have to deal with that. *shrug*

Those are based on factual aspects of the Marvel/Sony deal.

- Marvel Studios is in charge of the movie creatively.

- Sony is in charge of marketing as they are the ones distributing the movie.

There is nothing more to that.

The people making those claims had absolutely no idea about that arrangement ("maybe Sony is the one doing the trailers, no way Marvel did this"), so, it absolutely still applies. And it's wonderful.
 
The people making those claims had absolutely no idea about that arrangement ("maybe Sony is the one doing the trailers, no way Marvel did this"), so, it absolutely still applies. And it's wonderful.

They're saying that because they know Sony is distributing it. You're trying a bit too heard here to create something that doesn't exist.

People on GAF, for the most part, understand the arrangement.
 
15 year old teen (it's Peter Parker not the dude from Chronicle) who is coming to grips about being a superhero. What exactly needs be darker?

not sure where the age of him has to do with the movie being a darker tone or not. Didn't stop kick ass

Because Spidey is absolutely all about being dark and serious.

darker tone doesn't always mean as you say... beetlejuice has a darker tone and isn't that serious in every aspect as another example.

Marvel is overly redundant in a sort of cheese factory way that this film sort of does. (simple liners, big sky shots and never feels in depth to me) These movies just need a different direction than what they are always doing. It doesn't have to be "Blade" but why does it have to be this?

Blade is probably better than 95 percent if not all of the marvel movies that have been made since Blade/Blade 2. I don't see why more movies don't attempt that direction a bit as well though.

If it's only about trying to make a billion and the creators don't really have a say or want in what they are making then ok, but artists should care about it more than just profit IMO

Beetle juice has jokes, has fun moments but it never makes it self feel weak in direction or trying too hard to make people laugh at "i'm cool bro" moments
 
Really, are any of the Avengers good role models?

Maybe Thor. Maybe.

Carol's a tad racist

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They're saying that because they know Sony is distributing it. You're trying a bit too heard here to create something that doesn't exist.

People on GAF, for the most part, understand the arrangement.

They really really aren't. I promise you. It's been all over my twitter TL with some of my friends too, who only know Spidey is owned by Sony on film because of me. "Is Sony the reason *insert something they're displeased about*?"

Not worth arguing over, though. Seeing Sony catch flack is just always fun. They've earned it where Spidey's concerned.
 
Honestly, this is a poorly edited trailer. I don't think it has good flow. Marvel has done much better trailers. It has cool moments and it's a very generic "superhero" style trailer, but the first one was much better. It got across the John Hughes cum superhero vibe. I think a recut with better music would help this trailer.

Since he punched Captain America. That motherfucker.

Stark was right.

That was the greatest achievement of Civil War: they took Mark Millar's shitty event series and adapted it to be something awesome.

Stark was a TURD in that comic series.
 
Really, are any of the Avengers good role models?

Maybe Thor. Maybe.

Thor is a jobless moocher

Cap is a juicer

Iron Man is a fucking alcoholic mess

Hulk is a angry ball of fucking anger

Vision isn't real

Scarlet Witch murdered innocents

So did Black Widow and Hawkeye

Falcon is a dumbass
 
Honestly, this is a poorly edited trailer. I don't think it has good flow. Marvel has done much better trailers. It has cool moments and it's a very generic "superhero" style trailer, but the first one was much better. It got across the John Hughes cum superhero vibe. I think a recut with better music would help this trailer.



Stark was right.

That was the greatest achievement of Civil War: they took Mark Millar's shitty event series and adapted it to be something awesome.

Stark was a TURD in that comic series.
What you don't clone one of your best firends to turn him into attack dog, basically put your super firends into superjail in an alternate dimension/universe with murder bugs and put super villains in charge of hunting squads.

What a snowflake
 
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