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Spike TV Cancels TNA Impact Wrestling

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Dont swerve the network that is paying your bills!


Sad news but the company has been on the ropes for years and has done jack shit to improve its situation.

  • The TNA v RAW Monday Night Wars full of old ass WCW guys taking over the show
  • ECW tribute shows where they cant mention the word ECW
  • Guys in there 40s and 50s being paid over 100k for part time work when younger guys who bustled there ass for the company for years are struggling on near minimom wage
  • And lastly working with Vince Russo who had created such a bad reputation for himself the TV companytold them to never work with him... AND THEY CONTINUED TO DO IT IN SECRET!

Dixie Carter couldn't run a lemonade stand. She tried to get help from people who knew wrestling but what help came from egotistical ex WCW guys who ruined that company and the results spoke for themselves.

Dying Wrestling companies are fascination so I will be tuning in more regularly. I hope they get the chance to do a live final show but I bet that it gets taped a few weeks a head.


I guess Jeff Jerrett will take what the talent he wants and WWE will try get something but I cant imagien they are interested in much.



Edit. A TNA x NXT invasion would be the perfect kind of dumb. THEY SHOULD DO THAT.
Renee Young can replace Shane McMahon!
 
I want MVP back in the WWE, in longsleeves and heeling it up.

Or shouldn't I want that these days?

He's still a good talker and can still go. The issue would be something more like that for every old-timer you put in the WWE mid-card, you're theoretically taking time away from a deserving new guy. If that "deserving new guy" is Diego or Fernando (currently played by the same guy) then sure, go for it.
 
TNA on WWE Network. Make it happen.

I'm debating whether or not to keep my subscription for WWEN and this would put me over the edge.

That being said, I know it's not going to happen.
 
I haven't followed wrestling in years, but I used to love Kurt Angle.

Could someone explain why there's zero chances of him ever going back/how he ended up on TNA in the first place?
Kurt would probably never get medically cleared to wrestle or even pass a drug test.

I think even back then the WWE didn't want him to wrestle.

He'd get a legends deal at best, but I don't think the WWE can trust him. He's up to his ears in DUI's and shit.
 
I don't know how much race is involved, but Gail definitely hated the company's treatment of its women's division for a while. Not sure how she viewed it back in the early 00's when she, Molly Holly, Lita, Victoria, Ivory, Trish Stratus, Jazz, etc. were on top - but yeah she gave no shits in her latest run. And I don't blame her.

Guys I'd like to see, but doubtful it happens, is Samoa Joe, Bobby Roode, and Austin Aries. Age will probably hold them back from being signed. Jeff Hardy and Kurt Angle will probably resurface, although can't see Kurt wrestling much.

Gail was ultimately side-lined because they didn't think she was "hot" enough. She didn't have the blond hair, baywatch attire like Trish, nor did she has the sassy appeal of Lita. They couldn't be bothered with her... Gail Kim talked about it in her interviews, she was incredibly candid about it and it all added up. Sorry, race, back then, was a major factor. No one said it openly but we all know that it was.
 
I haven't followed wrestling in years, but I used to love Kurt Angle.

Could someone explain why there's zero chances of him ever going back/how he ended up on TNA in the first place?

I'm a bit hazy on the details but basically he was constantly working through severe injuries and had a major painkiller addiction, so the WWE wanted him to take some time off to go to rehab and heal up, out of the fear that he would wind up ODing and cause another PR disaster which the WWE was desperate to avoid after Eddie Guerrero's death.

He was either released or not resigned when his contract ended (forgot which) and immediately went to TNA, where his problems got worse over the years.
 
TNA on WWE Network. Make it happen.

I'm debating whether or not to keep my subscription for WWEN and this would put me over the edge.

That being said, I know it's not going to happen.


The WWE cancelled Legends House and had to delay Tough Enough.. i don't think they're interested or in a financial position to purchase a rehab/wrestling show.
 
Kurt would probably never get medically cleared to wrestle or even pass a drug test.

I think even back then the WWE didn't want him to wrestle.

He'd get a legends deal at best, but I don't think the WWE can trust him. He's up to his ears in DUI's and shit.

He claims himself that he would pass the tests, and supposedly went through rehab quite recently, but what got him released from WWE in the first place was some kind of dispute over whether he should wrestle or not in his condition back then, so I wouldn't guarantee that WWE are on the same page at all.
 
TNA on WWE Network. Make it happen.

I'm debating whether or not to keep my subscription for WWEN and this would put me over the edge.

That being said, I know it's not going to happen.

If that ever happen you can GUARANTEE that WWE will be like EA, they will let it run by itself for a little while then completely take over and turn it to crap. Then WWE will complain about the program and fire many people to downsize the cost. It will be a disaster, no more than that, it would be catastrophic!

Competition is good for the market and competition, no matter how small, is something that WWE really needs to keep on its toes. TNA needs to stay and the way they can further themselves away from WWE is by building the ultimate tag-team division (hence why the Hardy Boyz and Team 3D are back).
 
He claims himself that he would pass the tests, and supposedly went through rehab quite recently, but what got him released from WWE in the first place was some kind of dispute over whether he should wrestle or not in his condition back then, so I wouldn't guarantee that WWE are on the same page at all.
Yep, and as far as his claims go, he's made a lot of them. The Olympics, MMA, Twitter hacks and whatever else. Kurt Angle can't be trusted.
 
Gail was ultimately side-lined because they didn't think she was "hot" enough. She didn't have the blond hair, baywatch attire like Trish, nor did she has the sassy appeal of Lita. They couldn't be bothered with her... Gail Kim talked about it in her interviews, she was incredibly candid about it and it all added up. Sorry, race, back then, was a major factor. No one said it openly but we all know that it was.
Oh I believe it.

Former NXT (before it was this programming we see now) girl Maxine stated she was told she was too curvy. You be the judge.

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WWE has a managerial position open for Gail Kim to Kenta, if she's interested.

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(they don't care she's Korean descent)

... and that would be the biggest insult EVER! I kid you not. Massive massive insult and I'm not talkking about the fact that the image you shown was Japanese and Gail is Korean. Heck, if I remember correctly, there was a time when the WWE invited Japanese female wrestlers to duke it out against their DIVAS and the Japanese girls were incredible! Leagues above the DIVAS... but unfortunately, the WWE never did it again because the crowd were racist and non-supportive towards the Japanese girls, and the WWE didn't do anything to support the Japanese girls either. Disgusting.
 
... and that would be the biggest insult EVER! I kid you not. Massive massive insult and I'm not talkking about the fact that the image you shown was Japanese and Gail is Korean. Heck, if I remember correctly, there was a time when the WWE invited Japanese female wrestlers to duke it out against their DIVAS and the Japanese girls were incredible! Leagues above the DIVAS... but unfortunately, the WWE never did it again because the crowd were racist and non-supportive towards the Japanese girls, and the WWE didn't do anything to support the Japanese girls either. Disgusting.

They're just as bad with Japanese male wrestlers. Yoshi Tatsu was used poorly, and heaven fuckin' knows if they'll turn KENTA, one of the best in the business, into yet another Far East joke.
 
... and that would be the biggest insult EVER! I kid you not. Massive massive insult and I'm not talkking about the fact that the image you shown was Japanese and Gail is Korean. Heck, if I remember correctly, there was a time when the WWE invited Japanese female wrestlers to duke it out against their DIVAS and the Japanese girls were incredible! Leagues above the DIVAS... but unfortunately, the WWE never did it again because the crowd were racist and non-supportive towards the Japanese girls, and the WWE didn't do anything to support the Japanese girls either. Disgusting.

Is this the 1994-1995 thing where they suddenly had a belt for the women again? Probably didn't help that their main event storyline at the time was Bret Hart and Lex Luger beating up Japanese wrestlers because they were evil and Japanese.
 
Is this the 1994-1995 thing where they suddenly had a belt for the women again? Probably didn't help that their main event storyline at the time was Bret Hart and Lex Luger beating up Japanese wrestlers because they were evil and Japanese.

Yeah, and all that was still under the control of WWE. WWE controls everything, they set the image, lines, end results and all. If things looks bad then it's mostly because WWE in the executive levels screwed up. You don't need me to go into details as there are plenty of obvious examples.
 
Wow, I never watched it and only watch WWE, but still hope all these wrestlers can find a job on another circuit or something.
 
They're just as bad with Japanese male wrestlers. Yoshi Tatsu was used poorly, and heaven fuckin' knows if they'll turn KENTA, one of the best in the business, into yet another Far East joke.

And that's exactly what I am afraid of! I feel that they are trying to push the Japan side element in reaction to TNA working together with Japan 1 Wrestling, which is a good move on TNA's part. I seriously do not have any faith in WWE in respect to showcase and delivering and the only thing when shit gets real or very interesting is when Brock Lesnar is in the equation because when Brock is involve, the talent HAVE to work hard and the story HAS to be good. Also, there other saving grace of providing incredible action was when The Shield was a unit, something they could have used to really build up the Factions division and make WWE more unique. However, that never happened and it seems to be the story of WWE's life. They acquire incredible people, push them too soon and with a stupid story to boot, bring them to the top and if they make it they will slowly come back down, or if they don't make it they will become B-grade wrestlers and slowly disappear.
 
The WWE cancelled Legends House and had to delay Tough Enough.. i don't think they're interested or in a financial position to purchase a rehab/wrestling show.

Yes, they are struggling but I think they could afford TNA if they were confident it would help WWE Network in the long run. Question is, could it actually help WWE Network int he long run? I'm not sure and it's probably too big a risk for them at this point.

If that ever happen you can GUARANTEE that WWE will be like EA, they will let it run by itself for a little while then completely take over and turn it to crap. Then WWE will complain about the program and fire many people to downsize the cost. It will be a disaster, no more than that, it would be catastrophic!

Competition is good for the market and competition, no matter how small, is something that WWE really needs to keep on its toes. TNA needs to stay and the way they can further themselves away from WWE is by building the ultimate tag-team division (hence why the Hardy Boyz and Team 3D are back).

Yeah, competition is important. I just don't see TNA ever being that unless a big financial backer steps in to make them serious competition.
 
Yes, they are struggling but I think they could afford TNA if they were confident it would help WWE Network in the long run. Question is, could it actually help WWE Network int he long run? I'm not sure and it's probably too big a risk for them at this point.



Yeah, competition is important. I just don't see TNA ever being that unless a big financial backer steps in to make them serious competition.

TNA's biggest issue in my eyes was never the finance, it was the product. They were killing themselves because they forgotten what made them great and unique. It's only now they are starting to slowly "get it", so I hope they find a new network soon because no matter what, they need money to pay their staff and all.
 
If that ever happen you can GUARANTEE that WWE will be like EA, they will let it run by itself for a little while then completely take over and turn it to crap. Then WWE will complain about the program and fire many people to downsize the cost. It will be a disaster, no more than that, it would be catastrophic!

Competition is good for the market and competition, no matter how small, is something that WWE really needs to keep on its toes. TNA needs to stay and the way they can further themselves away from WWE is by building the ultimate tag-team division (hence why the Hardy Boyz and Team 3D are back).

If you think the Hardys and Team 3D have any place in something described as "the ultimate tag team division" then i don't know what to tell you
 
If you think the Hardys and Team 3D have any place in something described as "the ultimate tag team division" then i don't know what to tell you

Um, what?

In their prime, both teams were fantastic. And since said prime, Jeff Hardy and Bubba Ray have become damn solid singles wrestlers with better timing and promos. Teams today could learn a lot from facing The Hardy's/Dudleys, namely how to slow the Hell down and stop hitting seven moves when one will do.

And both teams are, end of, pushing top ten for best tag teams ever. The only reason neither hits the top ten is because there's a lot of brilliant tag teams. In terms of the the 00s, Hardy's/Dudley's are top five, no question,
 
They're just as bad with Japanese male wrestlers. Yoshi Tatsu was used poorly, and heaven fuckin' knows if they'll turn KENTA, one of the best in the business, into yet another Far East joke.

The last time they made a big deal about an international signing like they are doing with Kenta, it was Mistico (Sin Cara), who was actually treated right (he got special lighting, tons of videos, ect), who proceded to fuck it all up by becoming so botch-prone they had to put him on the taped Smackdown show to edit his matches, becoming super injury-prone, and a terrible person in the locker room.

I have faith that if Kenta is able to learn enough English to cut basic promos, he should be fine.
 
The last time they made a big deal about an international signing like they are doing with Kenta, it was Mistico (Sin Cara), who was actually treated right (he got special lighting, tons of videos, ect), who proceded to fuck it all up by becoming so botch-prone they had to put him on the taped Smackdown show to edit his matches, becoming super injury-prone, and a terrible person in the locker room.

I have faith that if Kenta is able to learn enough English to cut basic promos, he should be fine.

I think it's safe to say Kenta could get over in a Chris Benoit workrate level very easily, and on the plus side I believe he doesn't own any dogs.
 
Um, what?

In their prime, both teams were fantastic. And since said prime, Jeff Hardy and Bubba Ray have become damn solid singles wrestlers with better timing and promos. Teams today could learn a lot from facing The Hardy's/Dudleys, namely how to slow the Hell down and stop hitting seven moves when one will do.

And both teams are, end of, pushing top ten for best tag teams ever. The only reason neither hits the top ten is because there's a lot of brilliant tag teams. In terms of the the 00s, Hardy's/Dudley's are top five, no question,

This is 2014, the only guy out of those 2 teams who isn't horrible right now is Bully Ray, and that's only as a heel in singles competition, their prime is irrelevant
 
Not surprised at all- TNA has sucked for years. For all the shit that WWE guys, the in-ring talent HHH has brought in the last couple of years has been incredible. Yes the booking in WWE leaves a lot to be desired but its miled ahead of swerve-city TNA.

I hope Kurt Angle gets another WWE run out of this.

Vince has lost millions but I'm sure he's pretty happy today. I wonder if hes gonna rub it in today on Raw?
 
It'll be very hard for TNA to replace Spike's support of their show. I wouldn't count them out yet though as they've survived for a fairly long time.

When Spike cancels your show, you know the ratings where bad.

They've always done solid ratings, just never really grew their audience much past the low 1.0s. Basically 1/3rd of Raw's audience and 1/2 of Smackdown's.

That's actually a pretty solid number, especially these days with all the cable channels out there.
 
I think it's safe to say Kenta could get over in a Chris Benoit workrate level very easily, and on the plus side I believe he doesn't own any dogs.

As long as they don't put him in the ring against the wrong person ( he should be alright. Really would be smart to start him with guys like Big E, who he's only 2 inches shorter than, but isn't considered small. If they put him in with a guy like Jack Swagger, who isn't considered a "tall" guy but is probably a foot taller than Kenta, it could go really bad.
 
This is 2014, the only guy out of those 2 teams who isn't horrible right now is Bully Ray, and that's only as a heel in singles competition, their prime is irrelevant

My point was that they're all smarter wrestlers now, and are better at working a crowd. Which teams nowadays need.
 
Um, what?

In their prime, both teams were fantastic. And since said prime, Jeff Hardy and Bubba Ray have become damn solid singles wrestlers with better timing and promos. Teams today could learn a lot from facing The Hardy's/Dudleys, namely how to slow the Hell down and stop hitting seven moves when one will do.

And both teams are, end of, pushing top ten for best tag teams ever. The only reason neither hits the top ten is because there's a lot of brilliant tag teams. In terms of the the 00s, Hardy's/Dudley's are top five, no question,


Thank you. Clearly DeathBoy is a person that knows what he is talking about.

Let's get real. It is silly to ignore the Hardy Boyz and Team 3D. If TNA keeps on making and generating more tag teams that fits together (yes, I'm looking at you Rybaxel, a team that completely doesn't match at all) and they bring back classic stars like these teams, that would definitely give TNA an unique selling points that the WWE does not have. TNA need to communicate and push the visibility of the tag team division strongly and keep at it, otherwise people won't know it exist which is their biggest problem.

WWE use to be so awesome at doing this during the attitude era and definitely before that! People were rooting for tag teams, they knew who was there, and the tag teams had visibility and even headline events because they were so incredible, varied, and in-your-face. Unfortunately and funnily, the best thing that WWE have right now is Golddust and Stardust (those two need to hurry up with a clear tag team name), 2/3s of the Wyatts Family (they should always stick as 3 or mix and match for tag team battles), and The Ascension. WWE got a LOT of work to do because frankly they have NO division.
 
Thank you. Clearly DeathBoy is a person that knows what he is talking about.

Funny, in terms of tag teams, the best thing that WWE have right now is Golddust and Stardust (those two need to hurry up with a clear tag team name), 2/3s of the Wyatts Family (they should always stick as 3 or mix and match for tag team battles), and The Ascension. WWE got a LOT of work to do because frankly they have NO division.

YOU FORGOT THE USO'S MAGGLE.
 
YOU FORGOT THE USO'S MAGGLE.

Add them in. However, note that that WWE needs a lot more than 4. Much more. Poor USOs having the same old repetitive battle every single week! The amount of times they fought against Rybaxel and Wyatts is madness! That proves without a doubt that the Tag Team division is non-existent. Heck, the Divas are more in existence than the tag-teams.
 
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