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Splinter Cell 4 X360 images

There aren't many PS3 games to show period.

But I bet we'll find quite a few of those licensed and niche genre Japan exclusive games that don't quite meet the standard.

Coincidentally, the PS3 has over 100 Japanese games being made for it, and we have screenshots for how many of them?
 
dark10x said:
Hey, at least it's 60 fps.

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COD2 blows the shit out of it, though (also 60 fps)

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Well, I-8 actually looks better there.
 
Speevy said:
There aren't many PS3 games to show period.

But I bet we'll find quite a few of those licensed and niche genre Japan exclusive games that don't quite meet the standard.

Coincidentally, the PS3 has over 100 Japanese games being made for it, and we have screenshots for how many of them?
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Not many, which is smart on their part. Have enough high profile games get shown so there's no doubt about what the system is capable of doing.
 
dark10x said:
There certainly aren't yet.

The 1.5 monniker was born as a result of Microsoft's very poor initial showings. You can't deny that what MS gave us at E3 wasn't disappointing as all hell. We know what the machine can really do now, which is why "1.5" has disappeared...but back around E3, things were different.

I love the 360, though. I seriously do!
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I'm not arguing love for a console here but "Fifth Phantom Saga" says hello.
 
How in the hell do you capture shots from a video? I've never been able to figure that out...

J2 Cool said:
Well, I-8 actually looks better there.
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This is a better comparison (similar environment).

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I'm not arguing love for a console here but "Fifth Phantom Saga" says hello.
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I'm afraid that doesn't work, however. It was called "PS2.5". If they were likening it to XBOX, perhaps that would fly, but FFS (as ugly as it is) is doing things that the PS2 could not even dream of. That is certainly not a "PS2.5" game... :D
 
Speevy said:
Eh, recent impressions of GRAW have been insanely positive, haven't they? How about the inevitable PS3 iteration of Ape Escape? Think that'll be nextgenerific too?
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If there's room for Blue Dragon, I'm sure Ape Escape could look good too.
 
Crap, you quoted me. I thought he posted another I-8 picture. I posted before it loaded, this damn 56K connection. I didn't know we were back to Metal Gear Solid 4. :lol:
 
Speevy said:
Eh, recent impressions of GRAW have been insanely positive, haven't they?
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Uhh, yeah, of course. I think that's his point.

You can see that, geometrically speaking, the environments in that GRAW shot are not as complex...yet everyone is blown away by them.

GRAW looks amazing in stills, though. However, that's a pretty good example of what I was saying before (looks worse in motion).
 
Like I said, I thought he was showing I-8 again. That's what happens when a thread starts on one game and then people are discussing 3 or 4.
 
dark10x said:
How in the hell do you capture shots from a video? I've never been able to figure that out...


This is a better comparison (similar environment).

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I'm afraid that doesn't work, however. It was called "PS2.5". If they were likening it to XBOX, perhaps that would fly, but FFS (as ugly as it is) is doing things that the PS2 could not even dream of. That is certainly not a "PS2.5" game... :D
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Personally I just use the Print Screen button on the keyboard and paste it in some art program and of course upload it somewhere online.
 
HomerSimpson-Man said:
Personally I just use the Print Screen button on the keyboard and paste it in some art program and of course upload it somewhere online.
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That does not work for me. If I use print screen, you simply get an active video window. Example, if I use print screen and leave the video running...I will see that video IN MOTION when I've pasted it. The desktop and everything else is static, but that video overlay window is completely separate.
 
How in the hell do you capture shots from a video? I've never been able to figure that out...
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I use Windows Media Maker. Its very easy in bsplayer (p), but the quality is shit.

Re: MGS4 -Once you've seen the trailer, you'll realise that everything just looks in place. This isn't the game that defines 'next-gen' without cause. Trying to belittle it is sad on everyones behalf. There are a couple of shonky textures, but for the most part its amazing. And still a work in progress (Kojima blog only recently mentioned that they finally felt it was 'next-gen' after they implemented 'something').

I also think that with the motion (can't stand still and take a screen as with other games) involved, and all the dust swirling about obscuring details, trying to determine quality by screenshots is insane.

As for this thread, I'll wait for direct-feed HD SC4 X360 (non 'might be concept art but either way shit scan') media before comparing :)
Also, is it just me or are the settings for both MGS + SC just so much more awesome this upcoming generation?
 
I-8 looks extremely impressive in the opening shot with all of the soldiers running through the field. Almost next-gen worthy. As the trailer progressed the quality got to the point where it just looks like an unoriginal PC game. :/

speevy said:
Eh, recent impressions of GRAW have been insanely positive, haven't they?
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?

I'll pick it up for PS3?
 
Insertia said:
I-8 looks extremely impressive in the opening shot with all of the soldiers running through the field. Almost next-gen worthy. As the trailer progressed the quality got to the point where it just looks like an unoriginal PC game. :/
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Yeah...so devoid of anything attention-worthy. Still, I think since it was by far the furtherest along PS3 title at E3 (even further along than most X360 titles shown at the MS conference), there some hope for a turnaround...
 
SolidSnakex said:
Mostly because, atleast according to oxy, Insomniac is working along with Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica on a next gen engine.
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Yeah, I have no doubt the game will look gorgeous (especially on an engine made by teams of that caliber), but I have less hope that the game will be exciting with original ideas.
 
To get back on-topic I think Double Agent looks great and I can't wait until Ubi Soft releases a trailer. This is probably the game that makes me buy an Xbox 360.
 
OK, that's too much. My account was getting owned. I'll just leave up this one, as it looks so damn awesome.

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dark10x said:
Hey, at least it's 60 fps.

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COD2 blows the shit out of it, though (also 60 fps)

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There certainly aren't yet.

The 1.5 monniker was born as a result of Microsoft's very poor initial showings. You can't deny that what MS gave us at E3 wasn't disappointing as all hell. We know what the machine can really do now, which is why "1.5" has disappeared...but back around E3, things were different.

I love the 360, though. I seriously do!
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Is I-8 that top game? That looks MUCH better than COD2. COD2 looks kinda crappy IMO.
 
Striek said:
(Kojima blog only recently mentioned that they finally felt it was 'next-gen' after they implemented 'something')
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Yeah, I was going to mention.. reading his blog, they made that for TGS but really haven't gotten down to the real work yet. On his thoughts about next gen, he was mentioning and well aware of how people will pay attention to the smallest details and textures, and that looking over one will make it look poor in comparison to what they spent time on. Then he said that his production team will just have to step up and try to set the standard, because it's necessary for videogames to do so in moving forward visually. And that it's hard but it's something to take pride in. Also mentioned lip-synching being a major job for next gen.

So I dunno, you gotta wait and see. Artistically it's really something, and some of the stuff they worked on is just incredible. Like the environment having debris blowing through, Snake's model, the skin textures, etc.

btw, LINK ME TO THE BEST LOOKIN MGS4 TRAILER!!! (HD OUT?!?!)
 
dark10x said:
Glad I finally figured out how to cap.

What the hell, more MGS4 glory.

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I'm sure someone out will still dismiss it but the most impressive thing about the enviroments that these pictures can't really convey is how much stuff is going on, it's not a static still thing, there is dust, dirt, wind, debri, moving around all over the place that makes it look good.
 
J2 Cool said:
btw, LINK ME TO THE BEST LOOKIN MGS4 TRAILER!!! (HD OUT?!?!)
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No kidding! Where did those caps come from? Best looking quality I've seen in awhile. (Although I donwloaded about 18 different versions in the weeks following TGS so maybe I just missed it?)

Also, since the debate has calmed down a bit, I am definately pumped up for this new Splinter Cell. I've always liked both MGS and SC, never got the desperate need to compare the too as they are both amazing games. The new direction of the series seems interesting, although I am a bit bummed how much info they are handing out on the story before hand. Perhaps that just means that there will be even more story to tell in game?

For whatever it is worth, I think it looks pretty damn impressive too!
 
I like how all the splinter cell fans got banned and now this is a MGS thread :lol

j/k

OR AM I?

so do any sites have any non-scan pics of SC yet? I have never really been a fan of the SC series but bustin' out of jail next gen style sounds fun :)
 
HomerSimpson-Man said:
I'm sure someone out will still dismiss it but the most impressive thing about the enviroments that these pictures can't really convey is how much stuff is going on, it's not a static still thing, there is dust, dirt, wind, debri, moving around all over the place that makes it look good.
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Yes, this is completely true. In addition to the sheer amount of "stuff" moving in the environment, you have amazing animation applied to models which are all properly shadowed. It's really quite incredible.

Seeing that GRAW shot above then reminded me of the most recent trailer for THAT particular game. It looks so damn nice in stills, but it moves very poorly. Weak animation, very little movement in the environment (very static), and a poor framerate. It looked like a current game with a fresh coat of paint (a really really beautiful coat).
 
Ceb said:
Funny that so many people are arguing over placeholder textures.
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history indicates that the "placeholder texture" theory is a load of shit.

anyway, I don't see what's all that impressive about those SC4 shots. Looks fine to me, but nothing mind blowingly awesome.
 
Scrow said:
history indicates that the "placeholder texture" theory is a load of shit.

anyway, I don't see what's all that impressive about those SC4 shots. Looks fine to me, but nothing mind blowingly awesome.
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Traditionally, yes, but in this case it's been specifically stated by Kojima's team that these textures are only temporary, and that's why they don't quite mesh with the higher resolution. I'm gonna choose to believe them on this, because they're not ones to overpromise and underdeliver. :)
 
Where are the SC4 shots? can someone direct me to them please?

All I see is a pig..:|

Oh, and tnx for the MGS4 HD trailer link which I'm currently dloading.I have like 4-5 ver of the trailer (one is g4's 'direct feed') the others a just cam jobs, so I can't wait to see what it looks like in full HD glory!
 
briefcasemanx said:
Is I-8 that top game? That looks MUCH better than COD2. COD2 looks kinda crappy IMO.
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You don't have the right if you haven't played through the whole game.

I cannot believe someone can say the graphics look crappy, I must be playing a different game. Some parts on COD2 look breathtaking in 1080i.
 
Blaster1X said:
You don't have the right if you haven't played through the whole game.

I cannot believe someone can say the graphics look crappy, I must be playing a different game. Some parts on COD2 look breathtaking in 1080i.
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Perhaps they are making the same mistake as those judging MGS4 and paying attention only to screenshots?

COD2 looks quite awful in those shots, does it not? Yet, when playing the game, it's an entirely different story. I think this makes a pretty good case against judgement without playing.

Screenshots alone do not tell the entire tale.
 
dark10x said:
How in the hell do you capture shots from a video? I've never been able to figure that out...


This is a better comparison (similar environment).

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I'm afraid that doesn't work, however. It was called "PS2.5". If they were likening it to XBOX, perhaps that would fly, but FFS (as ugly as it is) is doing things that the PS2 could not even dream of. That is certainly not a "PS2.5" game... :D
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Yeah, this is a better comparison between a pre-alpha demo on a pre-alpha hardware and a released game on a final hardware.

The most "laughable" part is that the pre-alpha demo on a pre-alpha hardware is kicking final COD2 in the ass in many pics...
 
WTF happened in this thread?

MGS4 trailer criticism = immediate autoban? Is that the policy now?

I'd just like to understand how these things work, for future reference.
 
Rhindle said:
WTF happened in this thread?

MGS4 trailer criticism = immediate autoban? Is that the policy now?

I'd just like to understand how these things work, for future reference.
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Criticising and trolling are 2 different things.
 
Rhindle said:
WTF happened in this thread?

MGS4 trailer criticism = immediate autoban? Is that the policy now?

I'd just like to understand how these things work, for future reference.
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What Solidsnakex said, MGS fans have been dealing with it rationally, whilst those other xbots/sc fans decide to use this as a time to be pricks. :)
 
MGS fans have dealt with it rationally? Horse shit.

Every new shot of an XBox 360 game gets called out for not looking like MGS4, yet when the environmental graphics are scrutinised they cry like little bitches.
 
Blaster1X said:
You don't have the right if you haven't played through the whole game.

I cannot believe someone can say the graphics look crappy, I must be playing a different game. Some parts on COD2 look breathtaking in 1080i.
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I played the demo at walmart. I didn't think the graphics were really, really bad, but maybe closer to average. Don't worry, it's the first game I'm going to buy on Dec 18th, but in my opinion based on screenshots and the short demo, it doesn't look that great.
 
Which, not to rehash old ground, but I just finished watching the HD trailer link in this thread and good god I forgot how absolutely jaw dropingly impressive that trailer is. Being able to spot all the little details, along with being able to actually hear the music and the sounds of the battle completely changed my one and only complaint about the video- That the trailer lacked any kind of punch beyond its techincal achievements and its relation to the franchise.

Add in the subtle music, and the actual noises of the war going on, along with being able to spot that the giant walking Mech comes up on Snakes' radar as 'UNKNOWN' gave me a chill. Which is pretty damn impressive overall.

This game can not come soon enough.

Also.. go SC4! I'm sure you'll rock too.. I just had to share how awesome that trailer was in HD with legible sound! :D
 
SolidSnakex said:
Criticising and trolling are 2 different things.
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You'll have to refresh my recollection of the distinction.

A couple of people expressed the opinion that the environments in the trailer are unimpressive/PS2-quality/whatever. Is that ban-worthy trolling now?

There are people in EVERY screenshot thread these days who show up with their "not next gen" comments.
 
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